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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:30 pm

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Is RSW going to be affected by the hurricane?

At this time it doesn't appear so. Looks like just the airports on the Atlantic coast (FLL, MIA, PBI, DAB) RSW is still running flights in/out.
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:51 pm

Additional ferryings...

NKS8010 - Dallas
NKS8080 - Atlantic City
NKS8009 - Fort Myers
AAL9279 - Dallas/Ft. Worth
NKS8661 - Dallas/Ft. Worth
AAY9300 - Punta Gorda
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:07 pm

More ferry flights (According to flightradar24) from Miami:
AA9645--IAD
YX9862--PIT
AA9648, 9647--DFW
AA9646--JFK
AA9245-ORD
AA9643--LGA
YX9865--CMH
YX9867--IND
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:13 pm

And two more:
LA9901--MIA-PUJ--789
LA9903--MIA-PUJ--788
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:16 pm

lesfalls wrote:
Is RSW going to be affected by the hurricane?


No cancellations yet today.


Closing time for FLL pushed to 11am. MIA has announced that they will close if/when sustained winds reach 55mph, but 90% of their daily flights are already cancelled. Haven't seen any official announcements from PBI except that they won't permit passengers to shelter at the airport. MCO anticipates operating until this evening.
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:27 pm

Small to no impact for the US, but LX cancelled LX064/065 ZRH-MIA-ZRH for Thursday. Expect the same for Friday.
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:37 pm

Check out the METAR from MYNN:

MYNN 061300Z 07050G74KT 0400 +RA BKN010 OVC080 25/25 A2881

2016/10/06 12:00
MYNN 061000Z 0612/0712 VRB80G120KT 4800 RA FEW012CB OVC080
BECMG 0618/0620 18055G65KT
BECMG 0706/0708 20045KT
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:38 pm

GGT (Exuma) had 119mph sustained winds and 144mph gusts last night.

Hurricane warnings extended north and west to include MCO, SFB, JAX, BQK.
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:00 pm

HSV has about 40 Gulfstream jets that were flown here from Savannah on Wednesday:

http://whnt.com/2016/10/05/huntsville-i ... w-arrives/

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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:02 pm

MCO is closing at 8pm. DAB's last flight today is DL2439. JAX is saying that they remain open (I assume because of the military operation).
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:21 pm

diverdave wrote:
HSV has about 40 Gulfstream jets that were flown here from Savannah on Wednesday:

http://whnt.com/2016/10/05/huntsville-i ... w-arrives/

David


Surprised they flew them that far inland. Maybe ATL and PDK couldn't handle the volume?
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:23 pm

It's looking increasingly likely that Matthew will swing around and hit Florida again next Wednesday:

http://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images ... orm_14.gif

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphic ... l#contents
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:27 pm

SW has cancelled all MCO flights after 8 p.m. tonight
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:32 pm

campellochris wrote:
303dk wrote:

Spoke to AA reservations. Might be because I booked the MIA-PLS segment separate from DFW-MIA, but the CSR advised me I can't change the cities I'm flying to/from, so I can't get rerouted through CLT. Earliest flight I can be rebooked on in Sunday. Really wish I bought trip insurance for the $1000 hotel stay.


Trip insurance likely wouldn't pay for a hotel in this situation anyway. Since you're starting your trip in MIA, the only thing they'd have covered is a refund for the trip. And most airlines will do that for free anyway. If you bought the ticket after the storm was named, you'd likely have no recourse at all because it's a "foreseeable" event.
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:43 pm

RDUDDJI wrote:
campellochris wrote:
303dk wrote:

Spoke to AA reservations. Might be because I booked the MIA-PLS segment separate from DFW-MIA, but the CSR advised me I can't change the cities I'm flying to/from, so I can't get rerouted through CLT. Earliest flight I can be rebooked on in Sunday. Really wish I bought trip insurance for the $1000 hotel stay.


Trip insurance likely wouldn't pay for a hotel in this situation anyway. Since you're starting your trip in MIA, the only thing they'd have covered is a refund for the trip. And most airlines will do that for free anyway. If you bought the ticket after the storm was named, you'd likely have no recourse at all because it's a "foreseeable" event.


I don't know if the original poster made the flights, but looks like at least his MIA-PLS segment operated today.
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:46 pm

On UA from SAN to FLL via IAH for work. Original itinerary was Thursday, changed flights to Wednesday. Get to airport, and UA cancels the IAH segment. Their computer spits out a fly to EWR on red eye and then to FLL Thursday. Guess the computer didn't know the storm was hitting Fla Thursday.

The other aspect is UA cancelling a flight that landed at 7:30 EST. All the while both Delta (10:30p arrival) and SWA continued flying into FLL, and overnight aircraft left before airport closed at 10a Thursday. Guess that computer miscalculated just like my revised itinerary. Weather was fine at FLL until 11am Thursday.

I insisted UA get me to Fla Wednesday, they sent me to TPA, then 5 hour uneventful drive to FLL. Guess when there's slightest hint of bad wx, I need to avoid UA, on which I'm Platinum, not good in my mind!
 
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Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:02 pm

757SanCam wrote:

I insisted UA get me to Fla Wednesday, they sent me to TPA, then 5 hour uneventful drive to FLL. Guess when there's slightest hint of bad wx, I need to avoid UA, on which I'm Platinum, not good in my mind!


This post is everything that is wrong with some of the American traveling public.. Jesus!
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:04 pm

It looks United canceled all the planes that were scheduled to overnight in south Florida. That certainly was more cautious that some others. UA canceling the morning departures out of IAH was more conservative, but I hardly call that only the slightest hit of bad weather.

Southwest kept flying into FLL right up until the airport closed at 1030am this morning. You can try them next time. Just be warned that they don't interline if your flight gets cancelled. United is quick to pre cancel flights for bad weather. They started the policy about 10 years ago when all the long Tarmac delays and crew duty limitations were causing trouble with the network.

What I find odd is that your employer is having you change your schedule to fly into a hurricane warning zone. I am glad that the company I work for respects its employees enough never to do that.
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:03 am

santi319 wrote:
757SanCam wrote:

I insisted UA get me to Fla Wednesday, they sent me to TPA, then 5 hour uneventful drive to FLL. Guess when there's slightest hint of bad wx, I need to avoid UA, on which I'm Platinum, not good in my mind!


This post is everything that is wrong with some of the American traveling public.. Jesus!


Some of the American public, traveling or not, disagree with you. Instead of just bloviating, why not tell us precisely what you think is wrong. Try to do so without profane use of of the names of respected prophets. Thank you.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:23 am

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Some of the American public, traveling or not, disagree with you. Instead of just bloviating, why not tell us precisely what you think is wrong. Try to do so without profane use of of the names of respected prophets. Thank you.

Could you try to refrain from overreacting to a innocent colloquialism? The term "Jesus" in this use is not profane, the writer is not taking any position or trying to disrespect the Catholic Deity known as Jesus
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:25 am

santi319 wrote:
757SanCam wrote:

I insisted UA get me to Fla Wednesday, they sent me to TPA, then 5 hour uneventful drive to FLL. Guess when there's slightest hint of bad wx, I need to avoid UA, on which I'm Platinum, not good in my mind!


This post is everything that is wrong with some of the American traveling public.. Jesus!



I totally agree with santi319

why should anyone INSIST...Platinum big deal. you and thousands of others are Platinum..
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:56 am

BobPatterson wrote:

Some of the American public, traveling or not, disagree with you. Instead of just bloviating, why not tell us precisely what you think is wrong. Try to do so without profane use of of the names of respected prophets. Thank you.


How is it profane? This is another thing that is so wrong with so many people everywhere. No, not everyone is trying to offend you!
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:11 am

lavalampluva wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Is RSW going to be affected by the hurricane?

At this time it doesn't appear so. Looks like just the airports on the Atlantic coast (FLL, MIA, PBI, DAB) RSW is still running flights in/out.


MCO closed too........
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:46 am

Pretty Quiet over the east coast of Florida right now

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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:30 am

Pair of JetBlue aircraft parked away from the gates at BDL earlier this evening. Were to have flown to Florida this evening. Looks like they are parked for the duration of the storm.
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:37 am

On the general aviation side of things, Embry Riddle evacuated their entire fleet up to KAUO in Auburn, Alabama while Phoenix East Aviation (the other flight school in Daytona) evacuated their entire fleet across Florida to KSPG in St. Petersburg (The Florida one). DAB is completely shut down obviously.
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:35 am

Jerseyguy wrote:
BobPatterson wrote:
Some of the American public, traveling or not, disagree with you. Instead of just bloviating, why not tell us precisely what you think is wrong. Try to do so without profane use of of the names of respected prophets. Thank you.

Could you try to refrain from overreacting to a innocent colloquialism? The term "Jesus" in this use is not profane, the writer is not taking any position or trying to disrespect the Catholic Deity known as Jesus


If you wish to consider the use of that name followed by an exclamation point a "colloquialism," rather than the obvious expletive and profanity that it is, I beg to differ with you. That usage is unnecessary and doesn't belong in adult civil discourse. Accepting it and other vulgarities posted by some people in this forum only contributes to the coarsening of our society.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:04 am

BobPatterson wrote:
Jerseyguy wrote:
BobPatterson wrote:

If you wish to consider the use of that name followed by an exclamation point a "colloquialism," rather than the obvious expletive and profanity that it is, I beg to differ with you. That usage is unnecessary and doesn't belong in adult civil discourse. Accepting it and other vulgarities posted by some people in this forum only contributes to the coarsening of our society.


That is not a vulgar word, nor was it used in that sense, just like "OH My God!" Doesn't necessarily mean you have a despective stand against one or another religious group. The only thing coarsening our society is the eternal entitlement and permanent oversensitive reactions of certain individuals. This may come as a shock to you, but some people in the world actually believe everyone is equal and they truly don't believe "everyone is out to get them".

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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:00 am

MIA is scheduled to reopen for flight operations at the break of dawn on Oct. 7th
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:05 am

FWIW, AA's usual assortment of early morning South American arrivals are en route to Miami, albeit delayed by 2 or 3 hours.
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:11 am

An EI A330 got damaged last night when a fire broke out on a baggage loading vehicle in MCO. So its stuck for the duration of the storm. What are the chances of more damage being done over the coming 24 hours on the ground in hurricane winds?
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:30 am

Image

Amazed to see aircrafts going in for MIA. This screenshot was taken around 10:00Z, metar: KMIA 070953Z 22009G17KT 10SM BKN031 27/24 A2963 RMK AO2 SLP032 T02720239

Just looks crazy with the storm on FR24
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:41 am

Lindegaard wrote:
22009G17KT 10SM BKN031


Looks like the worst has passed MIA
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:06 am

Clarification on original post: A, my job requires me to respond to disasters in advance, so my employer is not insane. B, my choice of verbage insisting UA get me to FLL could have been better, I needed to get there, and C, in pointing out my lowly status with UA, I was hoping to get an intelligent answer why UA was way more cautious than other airlines before Matthew hit south Florida.

Sometimes this forum is like the presidential campaign, jeez, but hey, free speech, right! Have a nice day.
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:12 am

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Amazed to see aircrafts going in for MIA.


It's a FedEx flight, and sometimes it absolutely positively needs to get there overnight! :D
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:38 am

757SanCam wrote:
Clarification on original post: A, my job requires me to respond to disasters in advance, so my employer is not insane. B, my choice of verbage insisting UA get me to FLL could have been better, I needed to get there, and C, in pointing out my lowly status with UA, I was hoping to get an intelligent answer why UA was way more cautious than other airlines before Matthew hit south Florida.

Sometimes this forum is like the presidential campaign, jeez, but hey, free speech, right! Have a nice day.


I apologize for my snappy answer, what you said makes sense.
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:55 pm

Revelation wrote:
Lindegaard wrote:
Amazed to see aircrafts going in for MIA.


It's a FedEx flight, and sometimes it absolutely positively needs to get there overnight! :D



Always seems whenever an airport is reopened after bad weather, the first arrivals are FedEx and/or UPS.

Hope AA's Miami ops gets back on track soon. We have a group of 30 elderly folks departing MIA
for Costa Rica Sunday evening, and the group host had been having kittens the past 24 hours
worrying about the weather :)
 
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:02 pm

AA cancelled yesterday's flight AA2739 from CUR to MIA and last night's flight AA977 from MIA to CUR. The aircraft of AA2739 from yesterday is still parked here as they are awaiting go ahead to return to MIA but I find it strange that flightradar24 shows two AA flights (AA900 and AA908 from EZE to MIA, one 772 and one 77W) heading to MIA and they just passed the air space of CUR. Why is the flight from CUR still cancelled while other flights are heading to MIA? I also see two AR flights heading to MIA and are over flying Colombia now or just passed Colombia.

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Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:19 pm

What's that NASA aircraft doing laps up and down the eastcoast at 60,000ft
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:24 pm

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Looks to be this aircraft.
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Re: Hurricane Matthew's Impact on Flight Operations

Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:25 pm

Lots of cancellations at FLL again today- 260 flights: 91% of Southwest's schedule, 45% of Spirit's, 35% of JetBlue's.

One of the 3 AA 737s that were riding out the storm at STT departed for MIA this morning as AA1350.
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:32 pm

CO777-200ER wrote:
Image

Looks to be this aircraft.
NASA's Armstrong Flight Research Center operates two developmental-model Northrop Grumman Global Hawk unmanned aircraft for high-altitude, long-duration Earth science missions.

Thank you.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:48 pm

readytotaxi wrote:
What's that NASA aircraft doing laps up and down the eastcoast at 60,000ft



Maybe their U2? for the storm
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:17 pm

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Lots of cancellations at FLL again today- 260 flights: 91% of Southwest's schedule, 45% of Spirit's, 35% of JetBlue's.

One of the 3 AA 737s that were riding out the storm at STT departed for MIA this morning as AA1350.


We still have an AA A319 riding out the storm here in CUR. They are still waiting here. Strangely there are two AA 777's heading to MIA now coming from EZE.


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Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:18 pm

BobPatterson wrote:
Jerseyguy wrote:
BobPatterson wrote:
Some of the American public, traveling or not, disagree with you. Instead of just bloviating, why not tell us precisely what you think is wrong. Try to do so without profane use of of the names of respected prophets. Thank you.

Could you try to refrain from overreacting to a innocent colloquialism? The term "Jesus" in this use is not profane, the writer is not taking any position or trying to disrespect the Catholic Deity known as Jesus


If you wish to consider the use of that name followed by an exclamation point a "colloquialism," rather than the obvious expletive and profanity that it is, I beg to differ with you. That usage is unnecessary and doesn't belong in adult civil discourse. Accepting it and other vulgarities posted by some people in this forum only contributes to the coarsening of our society.

Chill out. Not everyone is religious and believes in the same things you do. Take your religious beliefs to another message board. If you're offended by seeing the name "Jesus" or "God" in a manner that you personally don't approve of, then scroll past the post and move on with your life.
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:33 pm

Spirit cancelled all operations at MYR for today and tomorrow. DAB is completely shut down.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:03 pm

757SanCam wrote:
I was hoping to get an intelligent answer why UA was way more cautious than other airlines before Matthew hit south Florida.


Most of the major airlines have become very pro-active at cancelling flights ahead of major weather events, such as blizzards. They take a lot of things into consideration, from the ability of ground staff in the city to get to and from work, crew legality issues in being able to turn the flight around, where else they may need the plane or crew to be or how quickly they could get those items back into position, etc., not to mention each airline uses its own forecast, that may show slightly different impact locations and times.

With hindsight being 20/20, in this case, perhaps you have could have gotten to FLL after all before the storm hit. But you can't only consider this instance without also considering all the times your flights were cancelled for whether when you would NOT have been able to make it to your destination, and a lot of those you will never really know.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:21 pm

UALFAson wrote:
757SanCam wrote:
I was hoping to get an intelligent answer why UA was way more cautious than other airlines before Matthew hit south Florida.


Most of the major airlines have become very pro-active at cancelling flights ahead of major weather events, such as blizzards. They take a lot of things into consideration, from the ability of ground staff in the city to get to and from work, crew legality issues in being able to turn the flight around, where else they may need the plane or crew to be or how quickly they could get those items back into position, etc., not to mention each airline uses its own forecast, that may show slightly different impact locations and times.


Some of the traveling public brought this upon themselves. It is a kind of thing like damn if you do, damn if you don't. If you are stuck in the tarmac or you divert, etc. It is "unacceptable" and you may need an "intelligent answer" as to why the flight operated in the first place. Cue the "bill of rights", and the "greedy corporate machine" that doesn't care about safety. So now airlines are much much more careful, thanks to these. Being precautious is now sometimes frown upon and thought of as "overblown". Years ago we couldn't believe how dare airlines operated in increment weather.

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Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:51 pm

santi319 wrote:
UALFAson wrote:
757SanCam wrote:
I was hoping to get an intelligent answer why UA was way more cautious than other airlines before Matthew hit south Florida.


Most of the major airlines have become very pro-active at cancelling flights ahead of major weather events, such as blizzards. They take a lot of things into consideration, from the ability of ground staff in the city to get to and from work, crew legality issues in being able to turn the flight around, where else they may need the plane or crew to be or how quickly they could get those items back into position, etc., not to mention each airline uses its own forecast, that may show slightly different impact locations and times.


Some of the traveling public brought this upon themselves. It is a kind of thing like damn if you do, damn if you don't. If you are stuck in the tarmac or you divert, etc. It is "unacceptable" and you may need an "intelligent answer" as to why the flight operated in the first place. Cue the "bill of rights", and the "greedy corporate machine" that doesn't care about safety. So now airlines are much much more careful, thanks to these. Being precautious is now sometimes frown upon and thought of as "overblown". Years ago we couldn't believe how dare airlines operated in increment weather.

Which one is right and which one is wrong? Some
Customers will never ever be pleased.


IDK United's operations in general trail Delta. I actually can't believe DL operated a LAX-MCO-LAX turn yesterday during the storm (#1061)
 
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:57 pm

caverunner17 wrote:
BobPatterson wrote:
Jerseyguy wrote:
Could you try to refrain from overreacting to a innocent colloquialism? The term "Jesus" in this use is not profane, the writer is not taking any position or trying to disrespect the Catholic Deity known as Jesus


If you wish to consider the use of that name followed by an exclamation point a "colloquialism," rather than the obvious expletive and profanity that it is, I beg to differ with you. That usage is unnecessary and doesn't belong in adult civil discourse. Accepting it and other vulgarities posted by some people in this forum only contributes to the coarsening of our society.

Chill out. Not everyone is religious and believes in the same things you do. Take your religious beliefs to another message board. If you're offended by seeing the name "Jesus" or "God" in a manner that you personally don't approve of, then scroll past the post and move on with your life.


I happen to be an atheist. The issue I raised concerns civility, not religion. I am not personally offended by the term that was used. I use it myself under my breath or in private, never in public speech or in writing.
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