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The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:34 pm

According to http://www.lh-taufnamen.de , Lufthansa intends to Phase out the last 737 - 300s by October 2016.

So, after 48 years of continuous use of the Boeing 737, starting as the launch customer of the B737-100, an era is soon coming to an end. Few other airplanes have such a long history in one airline.

As far as I am aware, Lufthansa had no deadly incident with their B737s, although one Condor 737 crashed in the late 1980s. And then there was the infamous "Landshut" highjacking of the 737-200 in 1977, forcing the Operation "Feuerzauber" in Mogadishu by german commando troopers GSG 9.

But overall, the 737 will be rememberd as a reliable workhorse in the fleet for several decades.
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Re: The Lufthasa 737 phase-out thread

Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:48 pm

As you can see on my profile picture, I am a big 737 fan.
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Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:54 pm

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Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:14 pm

Here's the picture. Apparently one must not put unnecessary spaces in between the photoid tags.

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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:38 pm

I wonder why nobody is discussing it today. Is it all?
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:43 pm

Yeah, it's kinda sad.... I think for most people it's 'just' a european carrier, which retires it's last b737... But on the other side it's the first B737 costumer and the costumer, which lead Boeing to even built it....
I've read somewhere, that Lh's first passagiere flight of a B737-300 was from FRA to NUE. Now the last one is NUE-FRA. This closes a nice circle, doesn't it?
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:07 am

When did LH retire the 731? Did the 735 replace the 731?
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:23 am

I saw one of the last "Bobbys" the other day in Frankfurt, sad they're gone :(
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:43 am

TheSonntag wrote:
So, after 48 years of continuous use of the Boeing 737, starting as the launch customer of the B737-100, an era is soon coming to an end. Few other airplanes have such a long history in one airline.


Other than NZ/BA is there anyone else that has phased the 737 out after that long of an time?
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:27 am

zkncj wrote:
TheSonntag wrote:
So, after 48 years of continuous use of the Boeing 737, starting as the launch customer of the B737-100, an era is soon coming to an end. Few other airplanes have such a long history in one airline.


Other than NZ/BA is there anyone else that has phased the 737 out after that long of an time?


It would be hard to beat out LH in this, as LH was the launch customer for the 737-100. But soon UA will take over the baton as the longest user, having gotten their first 737-200 about 4 month after LH got its first 737-100.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:53 am

About time! Glad to see the back of the T-Ford of Renton leaving LH :D
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:22 am

... it seems the last flight has happened yesterday evening:

https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/thankyou737


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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:30 am

duboka wrote:
Yeah, it's kinda sad.... I think for most people it's 'just' a european carrier, which retires it's last b737... But on the other side it's the first B737 costumer and the costumer, which lead Boeing to even built it....
I've read somewhere, that Lh's first passagiere flight of a B737-300 was from FRA to NUE. Now the last one is NUE-FRA. This closes a nice circle, doesn't it?


Last flight operated by D-ABEF... and it was indeed NUE-FRA:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/d-abef


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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:40 am

An era is over. Lufthansa has been a loyal Boeing customer for decades. The 737 in Lufthansa color will be missed. I have enjoyed many flights with them. The A320 will do for now. Maybe if Boeing one day launches a MOM, could we see another Boeing in LH color fly Intra European flights :-) no matter what happens. It is indeed a milestone!
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:06 am

Does LH still use one of the PrivateAir B737?
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:31 am

duboka wrote:
Does LH still use one of the PrivateAir B737?


Yes this one is still in use by LH
 
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:59 am

Luxair747SP wrote:
duboka wrote:
Does LH still use one of the PrivateAir B737?


Yes this one is still in use by LH


So in the end, the Lh B737 story still goes on. But sadly not in Lh colours
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:13 am

blacksoviet wrote:
When did LH retire the 731? Did the 735 replace the 731?


No new build 737 -230s replaced the 737 -130 Models between 1981 and 1985

The 737-130 frames were mainly sold to PEOPEXPRESS in 1981 and 1982 , two went to FEAT in Taiwan in 1981 whilst the last three left for America West in 1984.

In addition to the 737-130s Lufthansa also received 6 earlier 737-230QC (Quick change convertible pax/cargo) frames from 1969 through to 1971.

With the exception of two frames that were converted to full cargo configuration these left in 1985 to Presidential

Two remained in the fleet through to 1993 D-ABGE and 1994 in the case of D-ABHE which served 23 years in group and must surely be the oldest 737 ever in LH group.

These two cargo frames went to Air Atlanta Iceland and actually continued to operate LH Cargo flights from East Midlands for their long time owner !

The second generation 737-330 began joining the fleet in 1986 whilst the 737-530 would arrive in 1990 .

Interestingly Lufthansa actually leased a few 737-505s from Braathens to cover shortages in 1990/1991.

The 7 number 737-430s joined in 1992 however were to leave in 1997 a very short stay by Lufthansa standards. A321s began arriving in numbers in 1994 and the 737-430 simply became superfluous to requirements.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:18 pm

rutankrd wrote:

Two remained in the fleet through to 1993 D-ABGE and 1994 in the case of D-ABHE which served 23 years in group and must surely be the oldest 737 ever in LH group.


The B737-300s, which they retired yesterday, are about 25 years old...
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:22 am

mjoelnir wrote:
zkncj wrote:
TheSonntag wrote:


It would be hard to beat out LH in this, as LH was the launch customer for the 737-100. But soon UA will take over the baton as the longest user, having gotten their first 737-200 about 4 month after LH got its first 737-100.


Not sure that is true. While UA currently operates the 737 which they got in the Continental merger, I believe UA retired the 737 classics from their fleet, meaning there was a gap in operations.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:41 pm

mjzair wrote:
mjoelnir wrote:
zkncj wrote:


Not sure that is true. While UA currently operates the 737 which they got in the Continental merger, I believe UA retired the 737 classics from their fleet, meaning there was a gap in operations.

This is actually quite interesting, can anyone confirm?

What a pitty LH didn't find a way to keep the 737 for two more years.... => 50 years operating the same type of aircraft!!!

I hated all these LH-737s during my time as an active planespotter.... but now I am becoming melancholic. I often used LH's 737 on the short flights between FRA and HAJ and vv.

It's also worth mentioning that LH used the 737 at least once (the yellow bird below) to test a new livery:

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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:51 pm

At this point in time Lufthansa B733s D-ABEN (LH9924) and D-ABEH (LH9922) are on their trip westwards over thr pond approaching Iceland. They seem to be flying in formation with a 2 minutes spacing ex FRA.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:56 pm

mjzair wrote:
mjoelnir wrote:
zkncj wrote:


Not sure that is true. While UA currently operates the 737 which they got in the Continental merger, I believe UA retired the 737 classics from their fleet, meaning there was a gap in operations.


Legacy UA did indeed have a gap. WN, which has operated the aircraft continuously and will for the foreseeable future, got their first in 1971.
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Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:41 pm

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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:09 pm

planecrazy6762 wrote:
At this point in time Lufthansa B733s D-ABEN (LH9924) and D-ABEH (LH9922) are on their trip westwards over thr pond approaching Iceland. They seem to be flying in formation with a 2 minutes spacing ex FRA.

They landed in KEF, for sure for a top-up. D-ABEH took off a few minutes ago, but D-ABEN seems to be staying a little longer.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:13 pm

D-ABEN is now on the move as well.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:58 pm

You can follow them on FR24:

https://www.flightradar24.com/DLH9924/b88e5c8 -> D-ABEN
https://www.flightradar24.com/DLH9922/b88de29 -> D-ABEH

Does anybody know whether they are transferred in full LH livery - or did they garble the Lufthansa logo and brand?
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:46 pm

I flew on some of their first 737-130s when they replaced the Convair 440 Metropolitans and Viscount 814s on mostly domestic flights. They had blue seats with white headrest covers and open overhead racks. They were known as City Jets. They were all economy.

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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:25 pm

@ AirbusOnly: they left FRA in full c/s
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:42 pm

They fly an interesting route. From KEF they followed a heading across Greenland which is usually used to reach the US west coast. But west of Greenland both planes turned south. Why?
 
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Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:11 pm

ei146 wrote:
They fly an interesting route. From KEF they followed a heading across Greenland which is usually used to reach the US west coast. But west of Greenland both planes turned south. Why?

I assume for ETOPS reasons. These 737s were only used on short intra-europe hops and it would not have been worth the hassle to make them ETOPS-worthy. Or maybe traffic, avoiding interferences with the many daily TATL flights.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:29 am

Does anyone know where these two Lufthansa B737s are heading to? I hope it is not the scrapyard!
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:26 am

According www.flightradardar24.com, they are currently at BGR.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:50 am

According to Flightradar24 both arrived in BGR yesterday and didn't leave yet.
Edit: bennett123 was quicker. :)
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:52 am

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Does anyone know where these two Lufthansa B737s are heading to? I hope it is not the scrapyard!


Final Destination should be SFB - Orlando Airport - where all the "Bobbys" were flown before too.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:55 am

When did the LH B737 fleet lose their eyebrows?
 
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Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:55 am

..Recently flew on an ex-LH -530 (1991 vintage) now used by another carrier (2 flights).. The aircraft was in EXCELLENT shape, and the crew confirmed that LH had done an amazing job in keeping those birds in such tip top shape. I was particularly impressed because there were absolutely no rattly panels (not one!), not even on take off (short, powerful one) and when reverse came on..
 
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Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:33 pm

AirbusOnly wrote:
alyusuph wrote:
Does anyone know where these two Lufthansa B737s are heading to? I hope it is not the scrapyard!


Final Destination should be SFB - Orlando Airport - where all the "Bobbys" were flown before too.



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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:45 pm

PlaneHunter made a "guest appearance" and posted a report about the official 737 farewell tour:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1347171

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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:37 am

Does anyone know what exactly D-ABEK and D-ABEC did at Sarmelleek Airport on 2nd November? I had to google this airport aswell, never heard of it before. It is a small regional airport in Hungary. I don't think Lufthansa Technik is located at such a remote place so why would they fly there?
 
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:01 am

A German tour Operators runs a regular charter from German Airports to Sarmellek. These flights are bookable only through the tour Operators and seasonable, starting in April and ending in November. Looks like they didn't Change horses for the last flights of the season.
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:57 pm

According to a german aviation site the 737-330 D-ABEC "Karlsruhe" is parked at FRA airport with covered engines, intakes and doors. It has been towed to the southside of the airport. Hopefully it will preserved.
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:34 pm

NG263 wrote:
Does anyone know what exactly D-ABEK and D-ABEC did at Sarmelleek Airport on 2nd November? I had to google this airport aswell, never heard of it before. It is a small regional airport in Hungary. I don't think Lufthansa Technik is located at such a remote place so why would they fly there?


I was told that those were "Fan Flights" for fans of the 737. But I have no idea what makes someone a 737-fan for Lufthansa
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:11 pm

AFAIK Those passengers were mainly Lufthansa employees and retirees who had worked on the type. They could buy internal tickets for the final one or two flights. Mind you the 737 was a key type for Lufthansa over many years.
 
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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:11 pm

Ah okay thanks for the clarification
 
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Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:24 pm

columba wrote:
According to a german aviation site the 737-330 D-ABEC "Karlsruhe" is parked at FRA airport with covered engines, intakes and doors. It has been towed to the southside of the airport. Hopefully it will preserved.

D-ABEF was towed to the southern side of the airport as well. Nice picture, thanks @Adler im Wind can be seen here http://fraaviation.forumsfree.de/t16314 ... 2016#77109

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Re: The Lufthansa 737 phase-out thread

Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:09 am

N14AZ wrote:
columba wrote:
Is it just me or does this 737 have several repair patches?

It does have quite a few. The lighting makes them very obvious, you can see the sun is pointing almost directly along the fuselage when you look at the shadow.

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