mafaky wrote:It's pretty much clear that many airlines have either already retired their b777-200er fleets (e.g. MAS), or will be retiring these during 2017-2018 era (e.g Saudia). Looks like there are no second hand buyers/users, around...
Will these be stored in Majove, or go straight to the boneyard or is there any likelyhood (technically and commercially) they may be converted into freighters for another extended 12-15 years of flying?
mercure1 wrote:There is no 777-200 freighter conversion program.
It will be hard conversion process especially if for standard freight operators due 777 structural design that utilized carbon fiber floors which do not have the required load bearing for freighters.
Might be an option for lower density package operators, but then the issue is the 777-200 is a lot of frame for the volume. Airbus A330P2F is likely better option then in many cases being lighter aircraft.
PM wrote:For those of us who remember the "Good old B777-200ER" entering service - indeed, those who can recall when it was the 777-200IGW - the idea that it's "old" and at the end of its life is astonishing.
Oh, and did I mention that more -200ERs were built with RR (168) than either PW (93) or GE (161)?
na wrote:Almost all of EKs, MAS and SQs 772 and 77E subfleets are stored already. We are talking about dozens of planes, some have been scrapped over the past few years and for sure many of those baking in the sun will meet the same fate rather soon. And there are only a few which have found a new home, often after long periods of storage. China Southern also has some 77Es which are being parted-out, their older 77As however soldier on for now. Surprisingly Transaeros old 777s, among them even some otherwise totally unwanted 77As, have mostly found new operators in Russia (Rossiya and Vim), but JAL, Air China and ANA, all have begun scrapping their older 772s as well, JAL an EK even have started to phase out and scrap their 773 subfleets (EK has just retired their first one, A6-EMO, and all will be gone in a years time). No doubt from now on every year dozens of 777 will vanish in scrapyards. Lets face it, if they are approaching 20 years of age and are being retired by their original owners most wont find a new home. The flood of new widebodies and the trend away from secondhand buying over the past 15 years brings down the average service life of those planes.
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