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When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:51 pm

My question is that how long was the McDonnell Douglas Company plant open In Long Beach, California under McDonnell Douglas and Boeing for production of aircraft. As i know the DC 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9?,10 MD 11, MD 80-90 and B717 was produced here along with the C17 plant but the question is. How many years was that?
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:58 pm

Well, look at when the DC-1 was produced then the final C17..
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:01 pm

~70 something years. Opened during WWII and produced planes until fall of last year when the last C-17 rolled off the line.
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:23 pm

Douglas was based in Santa Monica with primarily production facilities located in Santa Monica as well. Aircraft through the DC-7 were built at SMO.

LGB facility(along with others) did not come into their own untll WWII. Matter of fact the first plant in LGB for Douglas opened in 1942. By late 1950s Douglas moved its commercial business down the road to LGB primarily because a proposal to lengthen the SMO runway to accommodate DC-8 was rejected and Douglas also was starting to run short of facility space at SMO.
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:41 pm

Both my husband's grandparents worked at SMO for Douglas. His grandfather worked on the DC-3 forward and then got into their space systems. His grandmother drove to LGB every day from SMO for over 20 years. They sold their home in SMO and retired to Tishomingo OK with their pensions. His grandfather was very critical of the Boeing takeover till the day he died.
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:53 pm

All Douglas prop airliners were built at Santa Monica-- right? Was that their only plant, circa 1935?

In WWII they built AAF transports at Long Beach, and B-17s? All Navy aircraft at El Segundo? When did El Segundo open?
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:37 pm

timz wrote:
In WWII they built AAF transports at Long Beach, and B-17s?


The B-17 was Boeing. I'm pretty sure they were built at BFI.
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:41 pm

Yflyer wrote:
timz wrote:
In WWII they built AAF transports at Long Beach, and B-17s?


The B-17 was Boeing. I'm pretty sure they were built at BFI.


As was common in WWII, B-17s were also built by Douglas under license (as did Lockheed subsidiary Vega)
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:44 pm

B-17s were also built under contract by Douglas and Lockheed's Vega division.
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:01 pm

I was born in 1965. We lived directly aross from the plant and both my parents worked there.
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:03 pm

Polot wrote:
Yflyer wrote:
timz wrote:
In WWII they built AAF transports at Long Beach, and B-17s?


The B-17 was Boeing. I'm pretty sure they were built at BFI.


As was common in WWII, B-17s were also built by Douglas under license (as did Lockheed subsidiary Vega)


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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:15 pm

Just to organize this response a lilt better here's my take on the LGB/SMO production.
DC1 thru DC7 were built in SMO
C124, C133 and C17 were built in LGB
A4 assembled at PMD??
DC9, 8, 10 were all LGB products
Not sure about the A3D, B66, or AD Skyraider? They may have products from PMD
The B17 were built all over and by several other mfg under license. To may knowledge there is only one B17 in existence that was actually built in Seattle.
 
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Re: Douglas

Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:47 pm

Offhand guess: Douglas was never at Palmdale. McD-D wasn't either, was it?

Turns out El Segundo was built for a previous incarnation of Northrop, that was taken over by Douglas circa 1937.
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:12 am

You may be correct. Just don't recall seeing
the A4 at LGB?
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:13 am

You may be correct. Just don't recall seeing
the A4 at LGB? There was a lot of activity at PMD in the 60's but I can't put a name or specific aircraft with it.
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:57 am

Polot wrote:
B-17s were also built by Douglas under license (as did Lockheed subsidiary Vega)


Interestingly, I recall reading that the vast majority of airworthy B-17s today are Douglas-built ones.
 
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Re: When and How Long Was The MD Long Beach Plant Used?

Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:08 am

PanzerPowner wrote:
My question is that how long was the McDonnell Douglas Company plant open In Long Beach, California under McDonnell Douglas and Boeing for production of aircraft. As i know the DC 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 MD 11, MD 80-90 and B717 was produced here along with the C17 plant but the question is. How many years was that?


None of the propeller types you mention (DC-1 through DC-7) were built at Long Beach. The first commercial airliner built at Long Beach was the DC-8.

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