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Re: Official A330 Production/Flight Testing

Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:55 pm

Revelation wrote:
Airbus ( https://twitter.com/Airbus/status/919931268120436736 ) says:

Save the date! The #A330neo maiden flight is scheduled for Oct 19th pending several factors incl. weather. Stay tuned for more! #A330neoFF


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Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:55 pm

Airbus ( https://twitter.com/Airbus/status/919931268120436736 ) says:

Save the date! The #A330neo maiden flight is scheduled for Oct 19th pending several factors incl. weather. Stay tuned for more! #A330neoFF
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Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:00 pm

Live feed should begin around 10AM CET tomorrow, according Airbus.com.
 
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Re: Official A330 Production/Flight Testing

Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:11 pm

Revelation wrote:
Airbus ( https://twitter.com/Airbus/status/919931268120436736 ) says:

Save the date! The #A330neo maiden flight is scheduled for Oct 19th pending several factors incl. weather. Stay tuned for more! #A330neoFF

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:15 pm

Weather forecast for tomorrow is not looking good.

Rain showers early with overcast skies later in the day. Chance of rain 60%. Thunderstorms: 20%.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:00 am

MSN 1795 first flight today.

https://fr24.com/AIB01TN/f41b6f5

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:32 am

Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:32 am

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MSN 1795 first flight today.

https://fr24.com/AIB01TN/f41b6f5

Bon voyage!

Aircraft looks wonderful with bigger engines and new wingtip devices.

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:49 am

Airbus has planned a 1,100 hour flight-test campaign for the A330-900.

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:52 am

And:

Airbus also will use a TAP A330-900 in flight test campaign


https://twitter.com/R_Wall/status/920947735884455936

Note that MSN 1795 and 1813 do not have a cabin, I'd guess the TAP A330 will be used to test/certify the new Airspace cabin.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:03 am

Probably TAP A339 will be used in the route proving phase
 
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:06 am

Beautiful and quiet too. :)
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:09 am

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I'd guess the TAP A330 will be used to test/certify the new Airspace cabin.


Is there realy a need to do these tests.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:15 am

KarelXWB wrote:
Airbus has planned a 1,100 hour flight-test campaign for the A330-900.

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https://twitter.com/MaxK_J/status/920948543036297216

What are the rakes that 1813 has and 1795 doesn't?

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:22 am

Since there is different weight on the wings and quite big winglets, do they have to do flutter tests?
 
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:29 am

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What are the rakes that 1813 has and 1795 doesn't?

V/F


Isn't it that stuff that A350 MSN1 has on its wing?

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:13 am

Tedd wrote:
I noted as the engines spooled-up, that the paint or gel applied to the rear of the fuselage, & perhaps up under the wing on the left side was blown down on to the runway
giving the desired result hopefully. I noted also the decent turn of speed too!


It should look like this:

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:29 pm

Thanks Karel, wasn`t 100% sure they`d cover the underside of the wing, now I know.
Just looks a mess to me, but I`m sure to the relevant AB engineer it`s a wonderful sight :)
 
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:26 pm

Tedd wrote:
Thanks Karel, wasn`t 100% sure they`d cover the underside of the wing, now I know.
Just looks a mess to me, but I`m sure to the relevant AB engineer it`s a wonderful sight :)


it is either satisfied nodding or Tz, Tz, Tz sounds accompanied by the head going slightly left and right :-)
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:20 pm

WIederling wrote:
Tedd wrote:
Thanks Karel, wasn`t 100% sure they`d cover the underside of the wing, now I know.
Just looks a mess to me, but I`m sure to the relevant AB engineer it`s a wonderful sight :)


it is either satisfied nodding or Tz, Tz, Tz sounds accompanied by the head going slightly left and right :-)


I hope very much it`s the former!

AB will be relieved they`ve finally got this bird airborne, it looks terrific. Congratulations to them for extending
this great aircrafts life. It`s fair to say it`s competition is very capable & superior in most respects, but the Neo
will be very attractive in what it has to offer. I can only visualize this aircraft enhancing AB`s reputation.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:48 pm

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Aircraft looks wonderful with bigger engines and new wingtip devices.

Wonder how the proportions would turn out with the T7000 hanging under the A338's wings in flight? :eyepopping:

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Could be the new jumbolino given the A338's stubby fuse and this huge hairdryer for powerplants :!: :D
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Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:47 pm

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Wonder how the proportions would turn out with the T7000 hanging under the A338's wings in flight?


sizewise the Trent1000 / Trent7000 : ( 112" fan ) engines are the smallest.
( and apparently the shortest )

then the Trent900 116" fan
biggest is TrentXWB with 118"fan
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:50 am

Leeham has a good read article on the A330neo flight test campaign:

https://leehamnews.com/2017/10/20/bjorn ... st-starts/

One of the illustrations shows the major wing changes:

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:39 am

Second A330neo aircraft MSN 1813 got its engines installed:

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:52 pm

MSN 1795 just departed on its 2nd flight:

https://fr24.com/AIB02TN/f528533
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:56 pm

Quick turnaround for a second flight but most of the frame is well known.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:51 pm

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Quick turnaround for a second flight but most of the frame is well known.


Its flying at FL410
 
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:51 pm

MSN 1795 returning from its 2nd flight with some nice evening light:

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:22 pm

Does the A330NEO have the A350 wingtips, or will the A350 have A330 wingtips.. :scratchchin:

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Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:53 pm

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:32 pm

Close-up of the A330neo winglet:

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Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:04 pm

KarelXWB wrote:

Then why does the title say it's a Cathay Pacific A350 sharklet?
 
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:20 pm

Fixed; I copy/pasted the wrong URL.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:19 pm

MSN 1795 4th flight imminent:

https://fr24.com/AIB04TN/f67f929
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:27 pm

aerolimani wrote:
Then why does the title say it's a Cathay Pacific A350 sharklet?


Actually it is a "Korean Air" (made) item.
all of them are :-)
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:32 pm

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Not sure anyone else noticed, the thrust reverser is deploying with the nose wheel several feet above the ground.
Now it's 20 years ago I worked on TR's but I am sure there is a sensor on the main under carriage preventing deployment without load on the under carriage.
I am just surprised the crew are so confident so early in a test programme to be deploying so early.
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:52 pm

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Not sure anyone else noticed, the thrust reverser is deploying with the nose wheel several feet above the ground.
Now it's 20 years ago I worked on TR's but I am sure there is a sensor on the main under carriage preventing deployment without load on the under carriage.
I am just surprised the crew are so confident so early in a test programme to be deploying so early.


Reversers are inhibited until the main gear oleos are compressed, not the nose gear. Airliners routinely deploy reversers right after mains touchdown, depending on airline SOP and technique taught.

Granted, they were particularly quick on that one, since the wheels are still smoking and the spoilers aren't even fully up yet...
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Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:13 pm

F70 certainly did not need WOW on nosegear . . . (shameless self plug):

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:48 pm

lowbank wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:


Not sure anyone else noticed, the thrust reverser is deploying with the nose wheel several feet above the ground.
Now it's 20 years ago I worked on TR's but I am sure there is a sensor on the main under carriage preventing deployment without load on the under carriage.
I am just surprised the crew are so confident so early in a test programme to be deploying so early.


I suggest you go take a look at videos of aircraft landing, this is pretty normal as all it needs is to detect weight on the main gear for deployment of the TR..
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:08 pm

Next flight is underway:

https://fr24.com/AIB05TN/f6a8311
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:30 pm

Yes I know it's normal in ops,
But third flight shows a very confident flight crew
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:39 pm

How many NEOs are currently in some phase of assembly?
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:35 pm

Leeham's Bjorn Fehrm has a new piece on the A330-800. Interesting readers' comments about the thrust reversers.....

http://leehamnews.com/2017/11/02/airbus ... t-selling/
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:41 am

Flight number 6 is imminent:

https://fr24.com/AIB06TN/f74772e
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:57 pm

Devilfish wrote:
Leeham's Bjorn Fehrm has a new piece on the A330-800. Interesting readers' comments about the thrust reversers.....

http://leehamnews.com/2017/11/02/airbus ... t-selling/


Looking at the numbers Leeham provides I find it hard to believe that on the same trip the A330-800 would only burn (total fuel burn, not per seat) 9% less than the -200... If you count engine SFC plus aerodynamic improvents...
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:06 am

How is the second Neo coming along?
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:02 am

ITMercure wrote:

Looking at the numbers Leeham provides I find it hard to believe that on the same trip the A330-800 would only burn (total fuel burn, not per seat) 9% less than the -200... If you count engine SFC plus aerodynamic improvents...



SFC Difference T700vsT7000 is 11-12%
And the whole NEO frame is heavier so some of that sfc is negated. And it was sugested that at short stages ceo would be preffered frame. leeham used 4500nm route, witch is a medium one. At longer stages difference should be bigger
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:33 am

And airbus is comparing with non 242t version (ie without last aero tweaks and T700EP2)
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:32 am

Nonetheless it's a very interesting (Leeham) comparison.Perhaps he should have also mentioned the 788 as this too is highly relevant I think.But of course the (5knm - 250 seats) market is exactly what Boeing are talking about with their 'MOM' concept.
Question is -Is their no market because it's not there these days or is it because these aircraft are not optimised and are simply shrinks of heavier aircraft.Guess we will find out if Boeing goes for the MOM.

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