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Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:11 pm

 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:15 pm

If you look at the front of the Humble truck, it looks like it says Florida in red letters. The background doesn't give off a Florida vibe though.
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:18 pm

aviationjunky wrote:
If you look at the front of the Humble truck, it looks like it says Florida in red letters. The background doesn't give off a Florida vibe though.


I believe that says "FLAMMABLE," not Florida.
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:29 pm

My guess is Grand Junction (GJT) - looks like the right landscape behind it.
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:31 pm

Could be GJT, but my first thought was Montrose (MTJ). Not at all sure, though.
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:53 pm

I'm 99.5% sure this is Billings. The 5 silver hangars look just like what are now the Alpine Air hangars and the background scenery looks like the Billings Heights area, to the northeast of the airport.
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:15 am

Beechtobus wrote:
I'm 99.5% sure this is Billings. The 5 silver hangars look just like what are now the Alpine Air hangars and the background scenery looks like the Billings Heights area, to the northeast of the airport.


I'll second with the other 0.5%
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:25 am

In 1969 the terminal at Billings was about where it is now?

If so, the hangars in the pic are clearly not the current Alpine hangars.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8051332 ... a=!3m1!1e3
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:06 am

Well, wherever it is, this is a wonderful shot! I rode on Frontier Convair 580s as a kid - I wanted to be an airline pilot and loved every minute on those vibrating prop-jets!

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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:03 am

Geographically I think it has to be between AMA/LBB (South), ND/MT North, MEM East, and Utah West. I don't think they really flew them beyond that area. A lot of those states are really flat, so process of elimination?
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:41 pm

timz wrote:


Hey, I have no idea where that was, but thanks for sharing such an amazing picture..!
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:08 pm

Check out the photog's Flickr pages... some good stuff there:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/xsacman/
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:32 pm

timz wrote:

Primarily the Midwest and Southwest.

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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:47 pm

FlyHossD wrote:
Could be GJT, but my first thought was Montrose (MTJ). Not at all sure, though.


MTJ is too flat for it to be that. Same for BIL.
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:45 pm

Nice shot wherever it is 8-)

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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:31 pm

Ill toss in another possible... Laramie, WY

Terrain looks similar, but can't see where those hangars might of been...
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:21 pm

tjwgrr wrote:
Check out the photog's Flickr pages... some good stuff there:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/xsacman/

Only "some stuff"? ;-) Awesome collection and almost each and every picture is worth starting a separate thread. Thanks for sharing the link!
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:46 pm

By far my favorite plane of all time. I can still remember vividly from 1974 flying a Frontier CV-580 from DEN-OKC with intermediate stops at PUB, and AMA. Always loved the sound of the plane. You always knew when a Convair was flying overhead from the unique sound. We referred to them as Mountain Masters back in the day. This was the plane that sparked what was to become my obsession with the aviation industry, and a career in the airline business. First with the original Frontier, and then onto Continental. I can remember how sad it was when Frontier began to phase the Convair out in about 1983. Keeping parts for the plane just became too expensive at that point since (even then) Convairs had became fairly scarce.

It was truly a great plane I still have a soft spot for turbo props. Especially the older ones. Ahhh, those were the days!
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:58 pm

Folks- I promise this is BIL without a doubt. Those hangars are the definitely what are now (at least as of recently) the Alpine Air hangars on the northeast side of the field with the telltale Billings Heights community, the Yellowstone River valley and the bluffs to the east/northeast of Billings in the background. I flew in and out of BIL for 4 years at a past airline, living there for 2 of those years.

Drop this address into Google Maps and look at Streetview:

1914 Terminal Circle
Billings, MT 59105

And look north east- you will clearly see those hangars and can make out the bluffs though the haze.
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:18 am

The "Alpine hangars" are in the center of this streetview?

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8032838 ... 312!8i6656

Yeah, now that I look again at the pic, the hangars in the pic could well fit Alpine. So the high ground in the middle distance needs examination.

No one has any objection to Grand Junction?
 
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Re: Where? (Frontier CV580, 1969)

Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:13 am

tjwgrr wrote:
Check out the photog's Flickr pages... some good stuff there:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/xsacman/


Some of these pictures were published in Skyliners volumes 1, 2, and 3. These books are long out of print, but they're readily available on Ebay, Amazon, and the websites that specialize in used books. The three Skyliners books have one photo filling up each 8.5 x 11 page, with detailed information about how long the aircraft in the photo flew, and which airlines flew it, below the photo.

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