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New Qantas Livery Plans

Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:56 am

G'day everyone.

Just wondering if we have any news on way the next aircraft is to get the new 'Roo?

Since the 744's are staying until the 2020's now I'd imagine they'll also be getting an update?

Thanks!
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:22 am

A second A333 (VH-QPH) is currently getting repainted at VCV
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Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:54 am

Can't wait to see an A380 or Dash-8. Would anyone have renders of either?
 
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:10 am

Why all the way to VCV? I thought they used Singapore for repaints
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:36 am

You can barely tell the difference anyway, other than the font change from arial to comic sans
 
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:40 am

I don't think there is much of a difference at all, the Roo has been slightly changed and the font apart from that not much of a change at all.
 
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:18 pm

I think half of the Quantas livery posts are simply an excuse for people to say 'Roo'. I admit, it is fun word and I like to say it. I like the new Roo.
 
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Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:28 pm

I want to see the A380's massive tail with the updated Roo and the grey highlight....
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:31 am

PEK777 wrote:
I think half of the Quantas livery posts are simply an excuse for people to say 'Roo'. I admit, it is fun word and I like to say it. I like the new Roo.


We say 'roo in Australia. I don't have to post to a forum just to say that.

Either that, or it's exciting to see aircraft in an updated livery?

We've had how many threads now about BA'a new livery that was literally a change in white and a crest.

Also, it's Qantas, not Quantas. Sorry, pet peeve of mine! :)

Sorry about asking, ladies and gentlemen. I was genuinely just qurious.

ahj2000 wrote:
I want to see the A380's massive tail with the updated Roo and the grey highlight....


Same!

It'll be interesting to se show big the titles are compared to the current ones.
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:58 am

Ugh. At least add some arms to that poor morphed 'roo.....it's been so horribly simplified it looks like nothing more than a squiggly blob. http://www.underconsideration.com/brand ... lution.jpg
How can you say this is an improvement?!
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:04 pm

The plan is to have the entire fleet done by QANTAS' 100th birthday in 2020 :D
 
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Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:39 pm

rikkus67 wrote:
Ugh. At least add some arms to that poor morphed 'roo.....it's been so horribly simplified it looks like nothing more than a squiggly blob. http://www.underconsideration.com/brand ... lution.jpg
How can you say this is an improvement?!


Overwhelming number of posts there do not like the new logo http://www.underconsideration.com/brand ... _group.php
 
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:21 am

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Why all the way to VCV? I thought they used Singapore for repaints
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The SIN contract wasn't renewed and VCV secured the contract.

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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:39 am

Did they even finish getting the current aircraft in the newly-obsolete livery? I was comparing 737 tails the other day and I'm certain that one of them had the roo in the old style, it's legs not as prominent on the bulkhead.
 
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Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:49 am

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Did they even finish getting the current aircraft in the newly-obsolete livery? I was comparing 737 tails the other day and I'm certain that one of them had the roo in the old style, it's legs not as prominent on the bulkhead.


I think there are a dozen or so mainline aircraft and quite a lot of Dash 8s still in the old-old livery.
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:03 am

I don't think they would fly their Dash's to VCV for repaint. Are their any repaint facilities in AUS?
 
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:55 am

skyhawkmatthew wrote:
benjjk wrote:
Did they even finish getting the current aircraft in the newly-obsolete livery? I was comparing 737 tails the other day and I'm certain that one of them had the roo in the old style, it's legs not as prominent on the bulkhead.


I think there are a dozen or so mainline aircraft and quite a lot of Dash 8s still in the old-old livery.


The following aircraft remain in the old livery:

A333: QPI
B738: VXM, VYD-VYL
B717: NXK-M
DH8D: QOA-QOF
DH8C: TQE, TQH, TQZ, SBB, SBT, SBV, SBW
DH8B: TQX

Total of 28.
 
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:08 am

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Did they even finish getting the current aircraft in the newly-obsolete livery? I was comparing 737 tails the other day and I'm certain that one of them had the roo in the old style, it's legs not as prominent on the bulkhead.

It seems not; here are some pics in the database from this year (of course it's possible some of these could already be repainted, or could be under repainting as we speak):

VH-VYF on 7 September 2016


VH-VYD on 4 September 2016


VH-QPH on 20 August 2016


VH-QPI on 20 August 2016


VH-VYL on 15 August 2016


VH-VXM in July 2016


VH-VYI on 5 June 2016


VH-VYE on 7 May 2016


VH-VYH on 17 March 2016


VH-VYJ on 17 March 2016


Additionally the most recent photos of VH-VYG and -VYK are from January 2015 and June 2014 respectively, both in the older colours:


Note that in these photos -VYE, -VYG, -VYH, -VYI and -VYK have the 1984 style logo on the engine cowls, while -QPH, -QPI, -VXM, -VYD, -VYF, -VYJ and -VYL have the 2007 style logo there.

Finally, VH-QPG was repainted sometime between 20 April and 2 October, and VH-QPJ (which has debuted the 2016 livery) skipped the 2007 livery altogether:




So in summary it would appear the 1984 livery is still being worn by up to 10 737-800s (9 in a consecutive registration block VH-VYD to VH-VYL, delivered between May 2005 and January 2006, plus VH-VXM delivered in July 2002) and 2 A330-300s (VH-QPH and VH-QPI, delivered in October and November 2005, with the A330s delivered either side of them in July 2004 and December 2005 having recently been repainted).

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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:29 am

Thanks for this link, it is a good read. http://www.underconsideration.com/brand ... BwMmE27qfA

I am getting used to the new livery a bit more now. Actually IMHO the new stand-alone roo icon with the silver/grey looks quite effective on the iPad app.

I am still lukewarm on the red tail icon and the livery font though!

What about the Retro Roos I & II, -XZP & -VXQ? Are they going to get the new livery, what was the timeline for the current retro livery on these?
 
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Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:34 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
skyhawkmatthew wrote:
benjjk wrote:
Did they even finish getting the current aircraft in the newly-obsolete livery? I was comparing 737 tails the other day and I'm certain that one of them had the roo in the old style, it's legs not as prominent on the bulkhead.


I think there are a dozen or so mainline aircraft and quite a lot of Dash 8s still in the old-old livery.


The following aircraft remain in the old livery:

A333: QPI
B738: VXM, VYD-VYL
B717: NXK-M
DH8D: QOA-QOF
DH8C: TQE, TQH, TQZ, SBB, SBT, SBV, SBW
DH8B: TQX

Total of 28.

Beat me to it! Has -QPH gone for a repaint then?

I'd be interested to know why -VXM survived in the 1984 livery after many of its younger siblings (-VXN to -VXU, -VYA to -VYC) were repainted into the 2007 livery over the last few years. Surprise Retro-Roo?

Speaking of Retro-Roos, assuming the 10 in the 1984 livery don't all go before one returns in 2016 livery, this image will soon almost be possible entirely with 737-800s (well except for the V-Jet, unless they're planning to really go all out with the Retro-Roos - what do you say Qantas, can you make it happen?)
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:38 am

VirginFlyer wrote:
Has -QPH gone for a repaint then?



Yes its currently in VCV
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:54 am

Following from my last post, here are QantasLink aircraft still in the 1984 livery in the photo database from the past year or so:

VH-TQH on 3 October 2016


VH-SBV on 30 July 2016


VH-TQE on 7 July 2016


VH-QOD on 11 June 2016


VH-NXK on 29 February 2016


VH-TQX on 10 February 2016


VH-TQZ on 29 January 2016


VH-SBT on 29 January 2016


VH-QOB on 29 January 2016


VH-QOE on 16 November 2015


VH-NXM on 2 October 2015


VH-QOF on 6 September 2015


VH-SBW in May 2015


Here are some from a bit earlier with no more recent photos:

VH-QOA on 17 December 2014


VH-QOC on 18 August 2014


VH-NXL in August 2014


VH-SBB on 1 January 2014




And here's VH-VYK in the 1984 livery in the background of this photo taken on 18 July 2016 (as I said above, the most recent photo of it is from June 2014)


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Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:15 am

The BEST response so far to the hot mess that is the new logo: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/90 ... 0729e3.jpg

I must admit the new font for the Qantas name is fairly well done..but I maintain the new logo looks like some sort of boomerang, rather than the animal it is supposed to represent.
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Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:05 am

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I don't think they would fly their Dash's to VCV for repaint. Are their any repaint facilities in AUS?

NZ have painting for regional aircraft in either CHC and/or NSN
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Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:38 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
skyhawkmatthew wrote:
benjjk wrote:
Did they even finish getting the current aircraft in the newly-obsolete livery? I was comparing 737 tails the other day and I'm certain that one of them had the roo in the old style, it's legs not as prominent on the bulkhead.


I think there are a dozen or so mainline aircraft and quite a lot of Dash 8s still in the old-old livery.


The following aircraft remain in the old livery:

A333: QPI
B738: VXM, VYD-VYL
B717: NXK-M
DH8D: QOA-QOF
DH8C: TQE, TQH, TQZ, SBB, SBT, SBV, SBW
DH8B: TQX

Total of 28.

The fact that so many aircraft are still in the old livery is a sure sign that the airline is rebranding too often. I doubt all the Dash 8s will get the new colours.
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:40 am

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Ugh. At least add some arms to that poor morphed 'roo.....it's been so horribly simplified it looks like nothing more than a squiggly blob. http://www.underconsideration.com/brand ... lution.jpg
How can you say this is an improvement?!


Well, if Australians say "roo" instead of "kangeroo", why cant Qantas simplify its logo the same way? It perfectly fits;-)

Anyway, the change is so minor, it shouldnt be a problem, not an organizational one and not a financial one, to have the whole fleet in the "new" livery by 2018. Just add the silver wedge, paint the red part with the new roo and change the titles. If the current livery is to faded that the plane needs a complete repaint, its done anyway. So I cant see why that should take until 2020.
 
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Re: New Qantas Livery Plans

Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:59 pm

tacobell101 wrote:
I don't think they would fly their Dash's to VCV for repaint. Are their any repaint facilities in AUS?


There is a paint facility in TSV, that's where Retro Roo 2 VHVXQ was resprayed.

Qantas have an aggressive timeline to have entire fleet in the new scheme by 2020!

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Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:18 pm

EK413 wrote:
tacobell101 wrote:
I don't think they would fly their Dash's to VCV for repaint. Are their any repaint facilities in AUS?


There is a paint facility in TSV, that's where Retro Roo 2 VHVXQ was resprayed.

Qantas have an aggressive timeline to have entire fleet in the new scheme by 2020!

EK413

Not to mention Virgin had their first 737 repainted in CHC.
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