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Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:25 pm

Now The Donald is president elect, what will become of his 757?
Will he be allowed to use it (officially/unofficially) whilst in office or will he place it in storage or will the Trump group of companies make use of it?
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:27 pm

It will be used by his son while he runs the Trump businesses while dad is president. Trump and his immediate family will only be allowed to fly on Air Force , Marine and Secret Service approved and protected aircraft. Just like every other president and their families.
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:28 pm

I doubt the Secret Service will allow him to use the plane. I assume Trump's children/company executives will probably use it as needed.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:36 pm

He loves that thing. He may be a one term president just so he can go back to flying it. :D
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:43 pm

It will be used as a template when they tool up to restart production.
 
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:49 pm

journeyperson wrote:
It will be used as a template when they tool up to restart production.



All I want for Christmas is a 757 MAX :)
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:52 pm

"All I want for my birthday, is 757-400 MAX" :]
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:56 pm

He may go to Boeing and demand they put the 757 back in production. It's actually something he would do.
 
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:04 pm

Flighty wrote:
He may go to Boeing and demand they put the 757 back in production. It's actually something he would do.

He is the projector, his supporters put their hopes and dreams and project it onto him. He can do anything. Restart 757 production! Bring back jobs! This is a case test in marketing.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:13 pm

Trump should help fund a 757-500 tri-jet design with a hump like the 747 so there could be 2-abreast business seating on the upper deck.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:20 pm

He has to place his assets into a blind trust over the duration of his presidency. He and his family cannot control the assets.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:24 pm

AAlaxfan wrote:
It will be used by his son while he runs the Trump businesses while dad is president. Trump and his immediate family will only be allowed to fly on Air Force , Marine and Secret Service approved and protected aircraft. Just like every other president and their families.


There are a number of other non-related executives at Trump companies that may use it as well.
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:26 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
He has to place his assets into a blind trust over the duration of his presidency. He and his family cannot control the assets.


Where in the Constitution did you find that?
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:31 pm

It will most likely be sold.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:36 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
He has to place his assets into a blind trust over the duration of his presidency. He and his family cannot control the assets.

I doubt the plane (and his helicopters) are actually in his name. Got to protect yourself financially.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:41 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
He has to place his assets into a blind trust over the duration of his presidency. He and his family cannot control the assets.


Does that go for the family business? Then his kids have a problem.
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:43 pm

BTW who would want such an ugly corporate jet (hoho hold on, not the 757 itself, but just what he has done to it)? What happend to his B727?
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:48 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
He has to place his assets into a blind trust over the duration of his presidency. He and his family cannot control the assets.


No. He does not. President Obama does not have a blind trust and it is not required. His family can continue to run the business and he can actually do anything he wants.
Some politicians do it, traditionally, to avoid a conflict of interest. But, you do not have to.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:10 pm

Air Force 2
 
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:20 pm

I'm wondering with Trump scheduled to visit the current resident of the White House
tomorrow, would Trumps' 757 land at DCA or Andrews AFB ?
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:25 pm

AAlaxfan wrote:
It will be used by his son while he runs the Trump businesses while dad is president. Trump and his immediate family will only be allowed to fly on Air Force , Marine and Secret Service approved and protected aircraft. Just like every other president and their families.

Just out of curiosity. What if he said no? He's not a prisoner. Not just pertaining to him, I wonder this about all presidents being "not allowed" to do stuff.
 
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:26 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
Can Trump continue to use his 7575 up until inauguration day?

I assume of course a Secret Service detachment would travel with him now


He has had secret service protection ever since becoming the republican party nominee (actually before that I believe). He will continue to travel how he did during the campaign up until inauguration day.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:28 pm

TVNWZ wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
He has to place his assets into a blind trust over the duration of his presidency. He and his family cannot control the assets.


No. He does not. President Obama does not have a blind trust and it is not required. His family can continue to run the business and he can actually do anything he wants.
Some politicians do it, traditionally, to avoid a conflict of interest. But, you do not have to.


For Obama, lack of huge stock portfolio helps avoid need for blind trust.

According to documents Obama filed in May of 2009 (another round is due next month), most of the first family's money is invested in plain vanilla U.S. Treasury bonds. Those are the kinds of low-yield investments that are unlikely to provoke any conflict of interest concerns.

Kenneth A. Gross, a lawyer at Skadden Arps, is a key adviser to uber-wealthy New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He said in an interview that Obama has no need for a blind trust.

"I think it's an instinctive thing -- oh you are in public office now, you should set up a blind trust," he said. "You can avoid a blind trust fairly easily by putting money into investments such as a widely diversified fund."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03420.html
 
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:37 pm

AAlaxfan wrote:
It will be used by his son while he runs the Trump businesses while dad is president. Trump and his immediate family will only be allowed to fly on Air Force , Marine and Secret Service approved and protected aircraft. Just like every other president and their families.


Trump's son is not his immediate family?
 
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:39 pm

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Air Force 2

Air Force Two is the air traffic control call sign held by any United States Air Force aircraft carrying the U.S. Vice President, but not the President

Why would he give the plane Pence?
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:45 pm

b747400erf wrote:
Flighty wrote:
He may go to Boeing and demand they put the 757 back in production. It's actually something he would do.

He is the projector, his supporters put their hopes and dreams and project it onto him. He can do anything. Restart 757 production! Bring back jobs! This is a case test in marketing.


I assume this is sarcasm. Boeing will never build another 757. They have destroyed all the tooling. They are not going to spend that much money on a plane thats niche will be filled by the 321neo. I'd like to see new 57's, but it ain't happening.
 
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:50 pm

My prediction of Trumps Plane

Trump Force One will be retired and end up in the Trump Presidential Library/Hotel/Casino/Resort/Golf Course which will of course be located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue after it is redeveloped into his latest business venture.
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:53 am

TVNWZ wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
He has to place his assets into a blind trust over the duration of his presidency. He and his family cannot control the assets.


No. He does not. President Obama does not have a blind trust and it is not required. His family can continue to run the business and he can actually do anything he wants.
Some politicians do it, traditionally, to avoid a conflict of interest. But, you do not have to.


Correct. Related news item. It was also mentioned during CNN election coverage yesterday that nothing legally prevents a sitting U.S. president from running a business, although it's traditional not to do it..
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politi ... story.html
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:02 am

Nixon flew on a UA DC-10 IAD-LAX in 1973. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_One

Also in this article, Vice President Gore traveled on US Airways Shuttle in 2000, and Vice President Rockefeller used his personal Gulfstream as Air Force 2 because he preferred the Gulfstream to the assigned DC-9.
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:15 am

cumulushumilis wrote:
My prediction of Drumpfs Plane

Drumpf Force One will be retired and end up in the Drumpf Presidential Library/Hotel/Casino/Resort/Golf Course which will of course be located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue after it is redeveloped into his latest business venture.


A month ago I made a similar joke.
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:28 am

I was hoping he would at least use it to help shuttle all the celeb's and other naysayers to their final destination now that he is the POTUS-elect. Or, maybe they are waiting until January to leave, after it becomes official? Either way, I think that is a great use for it!
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:29 am

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It will be used as a template when they tool up to restart production.

I wonder if Boeing will be able so sell any planes to China if there's a 45 percent tariff on Chinese products.
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:14 am

thekorean wrote:
AAlaxfan wrote:
It will be used by his son while he runs the Trump businesses while dad is president. Trump and his immediate family will only be allowed to fly on Air Force , Marine and Secret Service approved and protected aircraft. Just like every other president and their families.


Trump's son is not his immediate family?


By immediate family, I meant those staying with him at the White House. His other children and their families will be given Secret Service protection, but not government travel (unless they traveling with him).
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:20 am

Would he fly the new AF1 747-8i ?? or he need to be reelected to do so (2nd term)
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:26 am

What is the status of the 748i AF1? Wasn't this administration going to be the first to use them?
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:11 am

Maybe he could lease it out to Aero Mexico ?
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:45 pm

bayouflyer wrote:
I was hoping he would at least use it to help shuttle all the celeb's and other naysayers to their final destination now that he is the POTUS-elect. Or, maybe they are waiting until January to leave, after it becomes official? Either way, I think that is a great use for it!


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Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:47 pm

Somehow, I find it interesting that we've got all these amateur lawyers here. As an actual lawyer, I would think that Trump Force One (or whatever he calls it) will remain owned and operated by the Trump Organization. Trump will not be associated with the operation of the business, and will have to decide how he intends to avoid the appearance of conflict of interest. That MAY involve a blind trust or other vehicle, but nothing is guaranteed. I'm sure he has obtained sufficient and accurate advice.
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:52 pm

AAlaxfan wrote:
It will be used by his son while he runs the Trump businesses while dad is president. Trump and his immediate family will only be allowed to fly on Air Force , Marine and Secret Service approved and protected aircraft. Just like every other president and their families.


Isn't his son part of "immediate family" ? :b
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:54 pm

superjeff wrote:
Somehow, I find it interesting that we've got all these amateur lawyers here. As an actual lawyer, I would think that Trump Force One (or whatever he calls it) will remain owned and operated by the Trump Organization. Trump will not be associated with the operation of the business, and will have to decide how he intends to avoid the appearance of conflict of interest. That MAY involve a blind trust or other vehicle, but nothing is guaranteed. I'm sure he has obtained sufficient and accurate advice.


It is impossible to set up a blind trust for the Trump Organization. Blind trusts put all the assets into a trust with a manager overseeing investments - the manager has complete autonomy so that the beneficiary has no idea what the holdings are at any given point in time.

In contrast, the Trump Organization is largely a real estate development company. Real Estate is not nearly as liquid as stocks/bonds. Plus, since he puts his name on everything he owns, he has a pretty good idea of what he owns/doesn't own. A trust would not be able to rectify that. Plus, my understanding is that he has a number of personal guarantees for projects that can't be unwound as well as lines of credit and debt that can't be extinguished. He knows who he owes money (actually, a lot of money) to. This man is one gigantic walking conflict of interest on this. His kids running the business does not solve any of this.
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:17 pm

What is the callsign from now until Presidential Inauguration in January?
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:21 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
I'm wondering with Trump scheduled to visit the current resident of the White House
tomorrow, would Trumps' 757 land at DCA or Andrews AFB ?



Tracking Trump now. Looks like he is headed to DCA
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:22 pm

Donate it to some airport to use in crash/fire/rescue training.
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:24 pm

I posed this same question 8 months ago..here is the the link:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=704931&p=10406613#p10406613
 
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Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:44 pm

Why would he get rid of the plane? Wouldn't it be easier to transfer its title to his firm and let the other execs in the company but his immediate family and him use the plane? What happens after 4 years and he needs it back?
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:01 pm

JAYDOUB wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
I'm wondering with Trump scheduled to visit the current resident of the White House
tomorrow, would Trumps' 757 land at DCA or Andrews AFB ?



Tracking Trump now. Looks like he is headed to DCA



You're right, just saw video of the plane landing at DCA.

Boy, the Secret Service sure loves Chevy Suburbans :)
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:38 pm

Question about the pilots. Does the Secret Service require he use their 757 pilots now that he is P.E. or can he still use is own?

Good to read today in the Palm Beach Post that PBI (my airport) won't be too adversely affected when he visits Mara Lago. We'll see.
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:12 pm

The 'Don' keeps a Trump liveried S-76 helicopter hangered at Prestwick for his visits to his Scottish golf resorts. It's been noted as being hired out on the odd occasion lately and was spotted at Glasgow a few weeks ago with a piece of vinyl material applied over the 'Trump' logo.
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:22 pm

fallap wrote:
AAlaxfan wrote:
It will be used by his son while he runs the Trump businesses while dad is president. Trump and his immediate family will only be allowed to fly on Air Force , Marine and Secret Service approved and protected aircraft. Just like every other president and their families.


Isn't his son part of "immediate family" ? :b

See reply #33
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:44 pm

He'll nuke it. ;) Sorry I had to.
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