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EddieDude wrote:Congrats NH and MEX!
Only 169 seats. So this means that NH has a batch of 2-4-2 788s that were never reconfigured to 3-3-3??? Or is it simply that some seats will not be sold to keep the load and take-off weight light?
KLM11 wrote:the 0100 departure from MEX will help alleviate some of the heat issues, if only subtly. Not a good day for AM...
EddieDude wrote:KLM11 wrote:the 0100 departure from MEX will help alleviate some of the heat issues, if only subtly. Not a good day for AM...
One of Airliners.net's biggest myths is that MEX is a hot place. We are way too high above the sea level to be hot. I honestly do not recall a day where the maximum temperature in Mexico City exceeded 28° Celsius (29° even seems like a stretch). Moreover, the "hot" time of the year is essentially the spring (March-May) and upper 20s is the hottest it gets during the day. Evenings are usually very pleasant. The rest of the year we have cooler temperatures.
EddieDude wrote:Thanks for the clarification 817Dreamliner!
So the 21 Premium Economy seats will be sold as Economy? Will they be for upgrades? The NH official announcement talks about 123 Economy seats.
TWA772LR wrote:I would've thought PTY before MEX. Good for ANA and MEX!
TWA772LR wrote:I would've thought PTY before MEX. Good for ANA and MEX!
EddieDude wrote:TWA772LR wrote:I would've thought PTY before MEX. Good for ANA and MEX!
Why did you think that? I do not have a source handy, but if I am not mistaken the GDP of the Greater Mexico City area is about 10x the GDP of the entire country of Panama. Plus, Mexico City is a really awesome place to visit.
TWA772LR wrote:EddieDude wrote:TWA772LR wrote:I would've thought PTY before MEX. Good for ANA and MEX!
Why did you think that? I do not have a source handy, but if I am not mistaken the GDP of the Greater Mexico City area is about 10x the GDP of the entire country of Panama. Plus, Mexico City is a really awesome place to visit.
I was thinking more of easier accessibility to greater South America by partnering with Copa, as well as the relatively strong economic ties between Japan and Panama. But more power to MEX! And I'd love to visit Mexico City someday.
787fan8 wrote:It will be interesting to see what kind of Mexican catering they will do on this flight.
TWA772LR wrote:EddieDude wrote:TWA772LR wrote:I would've thought PTY before MEX. Good for ANA and MEX!
Why did you think that? I do not have a source handy, but if I am not mistaken the GDP of the Greater Mexico City area is about 10x the GDP of the entire country of Panama. Plus, Mexico City is a really awesome place to visit.
I was thinking more of easier accessibility to greater South America by partnering with Copa, as well as the relatively strong economic ties between Japan and Panama. But more power to MEX! And I'd love to visit Mexico City someday.
DolphinAir747 wrote:AM or KE should really start MEX-ICN. I'm sure there's a ton of auto industry traffic there.
Mex87 wrote:DolphinAir747 wrote:AM or KE should really start MEX-ICN. I'm sure there's a ton of auto industry traffic there.
AM has, in fact, applied for MEX-MTY-ICN-MEX route using 787-8. Lots of business and a steadily growing Korean community in northern Mexico -specially Nuevo Leon, where MTY is located- and Mexico City.
It is going to be publicly revealed early next year, might be even sooner.
Cheers!
TWA772LR wrote:I was thinking more of easier accessibility to greater South America by partnering with Copa
thekorean wrote:AM will be fine...They should cooperate more with KE though. Hopefully they launch ICN.
KrustyTheKlown wrote:Something that it's missing to make ANA's MEX-NRT a success is a codeshare with LATAM
winGl3t wrote:Their product is also miles ahead of Aeromexico and they have advantage of Japan point of sale.
817Dreamliiner wrote:EddieDude wrote:Congrats NH and MEX!
Only 169 seats. So this means that NH has a batch of 2-4-2 788s that were never reconfigured to 3-3-3??? Or is it simply that some seats will not be sold to keep the load and take-off weight light?
All of their 787s are 3-3-3 in Y. The 169 seat version is their longhaul configured -8:
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/ANA/A ... -800_C.php
EddieDude wrote:KrustyTheKlown wrote:Something that it's missing to make ANA's MEX-NRT a success is a codeshare with LATAM
Why would LA cooperate with NH? LA already has a Japanese alliance and codeshare partner which is JL.
VCEflyboy wrote:Great news although it would be even nicer if NH stopped over in YVR like it did in the old days. They still have fifth freedom rights and even if the 787 can make the trip non-stop there is no question the stop would improve the economics of the flight.
bayside319 wrote:Pardon my ignorance, but what is driving this market? Is it the auto industry?
EddieDude wrote:One of Airliners.net's biggest myths is that MEX is a hot place. We are way too high above the sea level to be hot.
EddieDude wrote:winGl3t wrote:Their product is also miles ahead of Aeromexico and they have advantage of Japan point of sale.
Not so fast. Have you seen the new J-class cabin that AM will install in its entire 787-9 subfleet? It is on par with all the majors. 1-2-1 seating configuration and very large TV screens. I recently flew MEX-NRT in J on the 788 and even though it was 2-2-2, the catering was quite good (wines could be a tad better, but they are definitely solid) and the purser was wonderful. The IFE is average to above average, the Aquascutum amenity kits are also on par... AM has gotten better in long-haul in J than most people will give it credit for. I wonder whether AM will retrofit the -8s to the same J-class configuration as the -9s.
razokamek wrote:As a Mexican, I also agree that AM or KE would begin MEX-ICN service, both founder members of SkyTeam.
AM with its 787-8 and KE... 747-8 or at least A330-300 IMO
Unfortunately, I also heard that the NH service will be delayed. Remember that MEX is a saturated hub. This note explains all...
http://www.dineroenimagen.com/2016-06-20/74529
razokamek wrote:Unfortunately, I also heard that the NH service will be delayed. Remember that MEX is a saturated hub. This note explains all...
http://www.dineroenimagen.com/2016-06-20/74529
Mexicana757 wrote:If you look at the date of the article its from June. That's when NH was requesting slots from AICM and the airport couldn't provide them with adequate times. NH instead approached Interjet and secured slots from them.
Cory6188 wrote:I have to wonder for both AM and NH -- how many dual Spanish/Japanese F/A speakers do they have on their roster?
It's not really a pair of languages that overlaps that much; Japan struggles as it is with English ability, so the number of Spanish speakers in Japan has to be miniscule (and people that are able to speak Spanish probably aren't F/A's, either). I can't imagine there are too many Japanese speakers in Mexico, either, so same comment would apply for AM.
Do the airlines just stick with Japanese/English (NH) and Spanish/English (AM) and hope for the best?