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WN 737-300's and CA

Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:44 pm

Hello all, I have some left over credits to use on WN, and I have been looking for flights that have -300's. However, I noticed that after about the second week of January, there are no -300's in the schedule for any of the cities in CA. I have looked on flights that have typically been a -300 stronghold, like SFO/ OAK SAN/ONT/LAX. Plus a whole bunch of other city pairs, etc. But after the second week of January, they seem to be gone from CA. Does anyone know if there will be a return following the next schedule release? Or are they going to start staying closer to Texas like the -200's did before their retirement. I'm hoping this is not the end just yet for CA.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:14 pm

Where are you trying to fly out of?
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:21 pm

You are correct though, it looks like after mid-January, they further west they get is LAS and they turn back to the east. Maybe has something to do with all intra-CA flights being equipped with wifi?
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:29 pm

Why is Wifi more important in California? Will the youngest 733s be sold to another airline in 2018? Will any be converted to freight?
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:34 pm

blacksoviet wrote:
Why is Wifi more important in California?


Ever heard of Silicon Valley? :)

Used to book travel for a VERY well known tech company in Mountain View,
and those travelers would pick their flights according to which one had wifi.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:38 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Why is Wifi more important in California?


Ever heard of Silicon Valley? :)

Used to book travel for a VERY well known tech company in Mountain View,
and those travelers would pick their flights according to which one had wifi.


How expensive would it be to install wi-fi on a 733?
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:37 pm

blacksoviet wrote:

How expensive would it be to install wi-fi on a 733?


More than it's worth for a plane that has maybe 9 or 10 months left of service before it's retired.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:20 am

usflyguy wrote:
Where are you trying to fly out of?


Well, I live in Fresno, so every Norcal airport is open game.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:22 am

usflyguy wrote:
You are correct though, it looks like after mid-January, they further west they get is LAS and they turn back to the east. Maybe has something to do with all intra-CA flights being equipped with wifi?


Now that you mention it, it must be a way of them competing with AS on being CA's go to airline, and not having Wifi in their airplanes makes that competitive edge a little smaller. But, it's still a shame.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:35 am

The 300s are being retired next year and it's simply WN beginning that phase. WN will treat the 300s like the 500s, slowly start bringing their ops closer and closer to DAL. It doesn't have anything to do with WiFi. This starts on the west coast on the January schedule change.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:37 am

As a west coast based guy, this is great news. If there's any -300 flying anywhere - it will be in and out of SFO to SoCal. That seems to be where the majority exists today.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:02 am

WN732 wrote:
I noticed that after about the second week of January, there are no -300's in the schedule for any of the cities in CA. .


How do you find this out? Does WN have an on-line timetable/flight schedule?


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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:32 am

727LOVER wrote:
WN732 wrote:
I noticed that after about the second week of January, there are no -300's in the schedule for any of the cities in CA. .


How do you find this out? Does WN have an on-line timetable/flight schedule?




You can view the aircraft type when selecting flights.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:19 pm

WN732 wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
WN732 wrote:
I noticed that after about the second week of January, there are no -300's in the schedule for any of the cities in CA. .


How do you find this out? Does WN have an on-line timetable/flight schedule?




You can view the aircraft type when selecting flights.


Well I knew THAT...but you said that you had checked every flight in California every day through the 2nd week of January. That's a tall order. :crazy:
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:02 pm

727LOVER wrote:
WN732 wrote:
727LOVER wrote:

How do you find this out? Does WN have an on-line timetable/flight schedule?




You can view the aircraft type when selecting flights.


Well I knew THAT...but you said that you had checked every flight in California every day through the 2nd week of January. That's a tall order. :crazy:


Well sure, I didn't check every single flight. But, you can easily narrow it down. For instance, they don't schedule them on flights out of LGB, SNA, or BUR. But I checked all flights to LAS, DEN, PHX, and the intra California ones.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:30 pm

barney captain wrote:
As a west coast based guy, this is great news. If there's any -300 flying anywhere - it will be in and out of SFO to SoCal. That seems to be where the majority exists today.


Maybe your read on this is different as someone with a larger sample size than me, but I feel like the 733 has had a bit of a renaissance at LAX lately. I feel like every time I'm at LAX I see 3 or 4 733s, and I even rode one LAX-BNA a couple of weeks ago (to your point, it had come from SFO). Can all gates at LAX now take 73Gs? I believe 11A now can, where when it was 4B pre-construction it could not.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:23 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
barney captain wrote:
As a west coast based guy, this is great news. If there's any -300 flying anywhere - it will be in and out of SFO to SoCal. That seems to be where the majority exists today.


Maybe your read on this is different as someone with a larger sample size than me, but I feel like the 733 has had a bit of a renaissance at LAX lately. I feel like every time I'm at LAX I see 3 or 4 733s, and I even rode one LAX-BNA a couple of weeks ago (to your point, it had come from SFO). Can all gates at LAX now take 73Gs? I believe 11A now can, where when it was 4B pre-construction it could not.



I was at lax a few months ago but I did see 700s at 9 and 11A.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:30 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
barney captain wrote:
As a west coast based guy, this is great news. If there's any -300 flying anywhere - it will be in and out of SFO to SoCal. That seems to be where the majority exists today.


Maybe your read on this is different as someone with a larger sample size than me, but I feel like the 733 has had a bit of a renaissance at LAX lately. I feel like every time I'm at LAX I see 3 or 4 733s, and I even rode one LAX-BNA a couple of weeks ago (to your point, it had come from SFO). Can all gates at LAX now take 73Gs? I believe 11A now can, where when it was 4B pre-construction it could not.


Yes that is the current state of things. When we left OAK a few days ago, I counted 5 classics - which was a surprise to be sure.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:21 am

Did southwest ever consider ordering the 737-100?
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:48 am

Good riddance. Hope they stay out of Phoenix after January. That is one miserable airplane in the middle of the (never ending) summer.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:20 am

blacksoviet wrote:
Did southwest ever consider ordering the 737-100?


I don't think Southwest even existed when Boeing discontinued the 737-100.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:21 am

blacksoviet wrote:
Did southwest ever consider ordering the 737-100?

No, but they've had 7 727s in the past (one leased from
Braniff in 1979 as part of an anti-trust settlement apparently, six leased from People Express from 1983 to 1985 to operate routes in California). See http://prsync.com/southwest-airlines/a- ... ions-6692/






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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:21 pm

TheFlyingDisk wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Did southwest ever consider ordering the 737-100?


I don't think Southwest even existed when Boeing discontinued the 737-100.


The first was delivered in 1968. Only 30 were built, most went to LH though the last went to MSA.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:32 am

DFW789ER wrote:
TheFlyingDisk wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Did southwest ever consider ordering the 737-100?


I don't think Southwest even existed when Boeing discontinued the 737-100.


The first was delivered in 1968. Only 30 were built, most went to LH though the last went to MSA.

Are any 731s still intact at the junkyard?
Did Singapore Airlines install First Class cabin on their 731 aircraft?
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:38 am

blacksoviet wrote:
DFW789ER wrote:
TheFlyingDisk wrote:

I don't think Southwest even existed when Boeing discontinued the 737-100.


The first was delivered in 1968. Only 30 were built, most went to LH though the last went to MSA.

Are any 731s still intact at the junkyard?
Did Singapore Airlines install First Class cabin on their 731 aircraft?


Technically it was Malaysia-Singapore Airlines. I don't know if it had first class, but considering it is not the same as the current Singapore Airlines as we know it.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:33 am

-300s are already being narrowed down to Texas. Ton of them in and out of DAL and HOU and I've seen quite a few in ATL. As a DAL flier, I've been on a lot more -300s lately.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:48 am

California without 737 classics would have been hard to believe not many years ago. Interesting to see WN make such a dramatic shift. Makes sense though.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:34 am

737max8 wrote:
-300s are already being narrowed down to Texas. Ton of them in and out of DAL and HOU and I've seen quite a few in ATL. As a DAL flier, I've been on a lot more -300s lately.



Well, that's what I was afraid of. Since we're less than 11 months from full retirement it makes sense. It's going to be strange flying without the classics.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:49 am

blacksoviet wrote:
DFW789ER wrote:
TheFlyingDisk wrote:

I don't think Southwest even existed when Boeing discontinued the 737-100.


The first was delivered in 1968. Only 30 were built, most went to LH though the last went to MSA.

Are any 731s still intact at the junkyard?
Did Singapore Airlines install First Class cabin on their 731 aircraft?

I looked into this a while ago, and I believe L/N 1 is the only one still in existence:



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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:34 pm

That is crazy to think no more classics. Over the past few years I have commuted many times SFO/OAK-PHX on the 733s with no wifi. Always struck me as strange that the first flight out on PHX- SFO was almost always a wifi-less 733.

On the flip side, when you got an older bird with the old 137 seat configuration, that was always nice!
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:09 pm

They appear to be gone from DEN-SLC/SLC-DEN in February. They've been on at least 1-2 of those flights for ages now.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:21 pm

I flew on a 137 seater last night MCI-DAL. Can't be many of those left. It was a last minute switch that left me with C14 but even the middle seat was comfortable.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:36 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
DFW789ER wrote:

The first was delivered in 1968. Only 30 were built, most went to LH though the last went to MSA.

Are any 731s still intact at the junkyard?
Did Singapore Airlines install First Class cabin on their 731 aircraft?

I looked into this a while ago, and I believe L/N 1 is the only one still in existence:



V/F


You are right. L/N1 is enjoying retirement at the Museum of Flight/ Boeing Field in Seattle.

It's now residing in their new Aviation Pavilion, so she's under cover now.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:40 pm

How many 733 are left?
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:28 pm

727LOVER wrote:
How many 733 are left?


Including spares 90 I believe.
May be less with about 4 to 6 retirements a month.

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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:24 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Are any 731s still intact at the junkyard?
Did Singapore Airlines install First Class cabin on their 731 aircraft?

I looked into this a while ago, and I believe L/N 1 is the only one still in existence:



V/F


You are right. L/N1 is enjoying retirement at the Museum of Flight/ Boeing Field in Seattle.

It's now residing in their new Aviation Pavilion, so she's under cover now.

If Boeing had designed a 737-100LR would it have had transatlantic range?
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:36 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
barney captain wrote:
As a west coast based guy, this is great news. If there's any -300 flying anywhere - it will be in and out of SFO to SoCal. That seems to be where the majority exists today.


Maybe your read on this is different as someone with a larger sample size than me, but I feel like the 733 has had a bit of a renaissance at LAX lately. I feel like every time I'm at LAX I see 3 or 4 733s, and I even rode one LAX-BNA a couple of weeks ago (to your point, it had come from SFO). Can all gates at LAX now take 73Gs? I believe 11A now can, where when it was 4B pre-construction it could not.
I agree, I see several 733's coming into LAX everyday and at various times. I was on one a few weeks ago in the new paint scheme from ABQ to LAX and it was going on to SFO.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:22 am

LAX, SFO, and SAN are definitely hot spots to catch a -300. Especially the flights between SAN-SFO and LAX-SFO. Of course the other California airports get them sprinkled here and there. SFO also has a lot of the 137 seat aircraft as well.
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:29 am

I believe we have 11 137-seater -300s, and around 79 143-seater -300s. I could be off a couple of the 143s, but fairly close to that.
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:27 am

wnflyguy wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
How many 733 are left?


Including spares 90 I believe.
May be less with about 4 to 6 retirements a month.

Flyguy[
/quote]

What are you referring to when you mention spares? Does WN have a few owned parts donor birds, or is it something else?
 
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Re: WN 737-300's and CA

Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:12 pm

luv2cattlecall wrote:
wnflyguy wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
How many 733 are left?


Including spares 90 I believe.
May be less with about 4 to 6 retirements a month.

Flyguy[
/quote]

What are you referring to when you mention spares? Does WN have a few owned parts donor birds, or is it something else?


Those are flown on an as needed basis.

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