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LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:34 pm

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/1 ... urt-route/

It will operate 1x weekly. Your thoughts?
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:46 pm

To be operated between April 29th and October 28th, 2017. Ireland is quite popular for Germans, so maybe they have made a deal with some tour Operators. Even LH does it some time.
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:47 pm

Ryanair have been flying Kerry Frankfurt for years - this is god Saturday holiday market direct to a main tourist area, they can then jump out of Dublin if less than a week stay
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:50 pm

They are also starting Santiago de Compostela from Frankfurt (3 weekly) and Munich (1 weekly). Granted they already serve ZRH with Swiss.

Having flown Ryanair's SCQ-HHN a few times, it seemed like there were many German pilgrims.
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:35 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
They are also starting Santiago de Compostela from Frankfurt (3 weekly) and Munich (1 weekly). Granted they already serve ZRH with Swiss.

Having flown Ryanair's SCQ-HHN a few times, it seemed like there were many German pilgrims.

Pilgrims? I thought Germany wasn't so religous (other then majority of the population celebrating christmas and Easter)?
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:50 pm

There is also Lufthansa Technik in Shannon. Maybe they can generate some money on what would would be an empty ferry flight otherwise to get planes there for C- and D-checks?
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:55 pm

Are they adopting the BA strategy of running near weekly services to tourist destinations to capture higher margin traffic when business travel is relatively quiet?
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:02 pm

This is nothing new really . Weekend flights (for tourists) have been operated by LH group companies usually from Dusseldorf for many years right back the the days of DLT.

The west of ireland is very popular.

This is certainly not about connections , businessmen/women, or LH Technik - its a plain and simple holiday/leisure flight presumably using mainline rather than EW because of the departure point being Frankfurt.
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:05 pm

There are also 4 other new services:
FRA-BOD (Bordeaux, France) Th, Su service
MUC-NTE (Nantes, France) Tu, Th, Fr, Sa service
FRA-HDF (Heringsdorf, Germany - located on the Baltic Sea) Sa service
FRA-FNC (Funchal, Portugal) Sa service (year round)
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:09 pm

LHRFlyer wrote:
Are they adopting the BA strategy of running near weekly services to tourist destinations to capture higher margin traffic when business travel is relatively quiet?


Hardly a unique BA strategy.

Lufthansa has operated extensive weekend quasi charter/holiday flights for decades .

Perhaps the only similarity is both LH and BA deposed of their dedicated charter/holiday airlines sometime ago and that they are now both brands of the Thomas Cook enterprise !
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:08 am

lesfalls wrote:
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/1116/832161-lufthansa-launches-new-shannon-frankfurt-route/

It will operate 1x weekly. Your thoughts?


If you judge Lufthansa by their deeds, all those leisure routes must be yieldiding around a break-even.

As others have said before, during the last two or three decades they had been constantly experimenting with this kind of destinations.
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:59 am

lesfalls wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
They are also starting Santiago de Compostela from Frankfurt (3 weekly) and Munich (1 weekly). Granted they already serve ZRH with Swiss.

Having flown Ryanair's SCQ-HHN a few times, it seemed like there were many German pilgrims.

Pilgrims? I thought Germany wasn't so religous (other then majority of the population celebrating christmas and Easter)?


Most "pilgrims" in Santiago are not particularly religious. It is not something "religious" in the sense of Makkah, Lourdes or Fatima (Portugal). More of hiking, nature, outdoors and all that stuff and that fits very well with German tourists.
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:02 am

LHRFlyer wrote:
Are they adopting the BA strategy of running near weekly services to tourist destinations to capture higher margin traffic when business travel is relatively quiet?


Lufthansa started SVQ and ALC last year in that fashion. And now SCQ. So they are clearly using BA's strategy of serving "holiday markets" on a seasonal basis.

Hopefully BA will start soon LHR-SCQ :)
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:36 am

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hjulicher wrote:
There are also 4 other new services:
FRA-BOD (Bordeaux, France) Th, Su service
MUC-NTE (Nantes, France) Tu, Th, Fr, Sa service
FRA-HDF (Heringsdorf, Germany - located on the Baltic Sea) Sa service
FRA-FNC (Funchal, Portugal) Sa service (year round)


Not to forget
FRA-PAD (Paderborn, Germany) Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr, Su service
operated by CRJ900
The service was previously operated until 2009 (3 daily)
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:58 am

This is great news for golfers going to southwest Ireland to play the great courses there !
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:35 am

The west of Ireland with its rugged but stunningly beautiful rugged scenery, good food and relaxed lifestyle is very popular with German tourists many of whom return year after year by car, a long journey of a day or more involving one or two ferry trips. This flight offers them another option, allowing them extra days in Ireland that would otherwise have been spent travelling. Furthermore the costs of flights and a rental car will probably be competitive with the total cost of driving and ferry tickets. Great news for SNN and, if successful, maybe we might see LH adding similar flights from other large German cities.
 
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:24 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
They are also starting Santiago de Compostela from Frankfurt (3 weekly) and Munich (1 weekly). Granted they already serve ZRH with Swiss.

Having flown Ryanair's SCQ-HHN a few times, it seemed like there were many German pilgrims.

Pilgrims? I thought Germany wasn't so religous (other then majority of the population celebrating christmas and Easter)?


Most "pilgrims" in Santiago are not particularly religious. It is not something "religious" in the sense of Makkah, Lourdes or Fatima (Portugal). More of hiking, nature, outdoors and all that stuff and that fits very well with German tourists.

Ah I see. Thank you for the information.
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Re: LH starting FRA-SNN

Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:50 pm

lesfalls wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Pilgrims? I thought Germany wasn't so religous (other then majority of the population celebrating christmas and Easter)?


Most "pilgrims" in Santiago are not particularly religious. It is not something "religious" in the sense of Makkah, Lourdes or Fatima (Portugal). More of hiking, nature, outdoors and all that stuff and that fits very well with German tourists.

Ah I see. Thank you for the information.


It is more the kind of thing for which the NYTimes organises trips. So it is more Lufthansa stuff than religious charter.

http://www.nytimes.com/times-journeys/t ... -santiago/

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