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747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:50 pm
by blacksoviet
Recently BA flew their last 747 flight out of SAN, marking the end of scheduled 744 service out of SAN. When was the last 747-300 flight at SAN? Will the 747-800 ever be scheduled to SAN?

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:54 pm
by LAX772LR
blacksoviet wrote:
When was the last 747-300 flight at SAN?

Pretty sure never, since no airline that had one, serves SAN.


blacksoviet wrote:
Will the 747-800 ever be scheduled to SAN?

Not in pax config, since none of the airlines who have one, serve SAN.

And if they ever do, they're likely to start with something way smaller than that, and stay that way for a long time.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:15 pm
by mikeyp224
Starting November 26 BA is flying the B744 to SAN again. Then starting March 25, 2017 its back to the B77W.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:18 pm
by wedgetail737
LAX772LR wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
When was the last 747-300 flight at SAN?

Pretty sure never, since no airline that had one, serves SAN.


blacksoviet wrote:
Will the 747-800 ever be scheduled to SAN?

Not in pax config, since none of the airlines who have one, serve SAN.

And if they ever do, they're likely to start with something way smaller than that, and stay that way for a long time.


SAN's London service use to fly to LGW, with British Caledonian (via LAX)...mostly with DC-10-30 service. However, I believe there was a summer when B-CAL flew their 747-200's to SAN.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:47 pm
by thegoldenargosy
Did anyone fly the 741 or 742 into SAN?

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:10 pm
by persiangulf93
LAX772LR wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
When was the last 747-300 flight at SAN?

Pretty sure never, since no airline that had one, serves SAN.


KLM (PH-BUK) and Korean Air used to fly 743 to SFO

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:18 pm
by blacksoviet
There are pictures in the database of 747-300 freighters at SAN. Not sure if these were scheduled or charter flights.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:19 pm
by RacheyFlies
Is not the 747-300, but the -400, I think Qantas plans their future 789 for SAN or DOH in the future.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:30 am
by Siren
Sad as it makes me, we're in an era where heavy metal is being replaced with carbon composites, and frequency rules over other considerations. For the foreseeable future, this trend is likely to continue... it pains me to bid adieu to the cathedrals in the sky that the 747s are... I consider it a good day when an airport gets new A350 service. Anyway, from a passenger comfort standpoint, these new planes blow the old ones out of the water. Changing times, indeed...

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:35 am
by RacheyFlies
thegoldenargosy wrote:
Did anyone fly the 741 or 742 into SAN?

BA I see a 742 until mid 1990's when the 744 replace it.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:35 am
by Viscount724
thegoldenargosy wrote:
Did anyone fly the 741 or 742 into SAN?


Yes, UA operated a daily 741 SAN-LAX-HNL for a few years in the mid-1980s. Probably not very profitable with the short SAN-LAX tag-on sector. There are quite a few UA 741 photos at SAN, all dated between 1983 and 1986.


Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:43 am
by RacheyFlies
There is another 744 in SAN, United Charter in YouTube: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uat_rtcXVDY
Atlas Air Cargo:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vwmzORCcgJ8

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:47 am
by Cunard
persiangulf93 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
When was the last 747-300 flight at SAN?

Pretty sure never, since no airline that had one, serves SAN.


KLM (PH-BUK) and Korean Air used to fly 743 to SFO


Yes but were discussing SAN not SFO.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:19 am
by lat41
Can the 744 generally operate with no weight restrictions to LON from the 9400' SAN runway?

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:01 am
by SANFan
lat41 wrote:
Can the 744 generally operate with no weight restrictions to LON from the 9400' SAN runway?

I'd love to know the answer to your question too. I also wonder if they are able to fill every seat (+ luggage) and send any extra freight up the 5 a hundred miles? I just don't know if pax or cargo tend to be the priority?

I'm still amazed that we actually had an intercontinental 747 serving SAN for essentially a whole year! I do hope that someday we will hear how everything went -- i.e., why BA started The Queen here, why they stopped it, if it was successful, will she be back...

bb

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:08 am
by aamd11
SANFan wrote:
will she be back...

bb

Yes.

Tomorrow.

BA273.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:44 pm
by blacksoviet
Cunard wrote:
persiangulf93 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Pretty sure never, since no airline that had one, serves SAN.


KLM (PH-BUK) and Korean Air used to fly 743 to SFO


Yes but were discussing SAN not SFO.


Did the KLM 743 even have enough range to get to AMS from SFO?

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:51 am
by ER757
blacksoviet wrote:
Recently BA flew their last 747 flight out of SAN, marking the end of scheduled 744 service out of SAN. When was the last 747-300 flight at SAN? Will the 747-800 ever be scheduled to SAN?


747-8 should fly to SAN once there's one operating as Air Force One. The POTUS will almost certainly visit SAN at some point

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:01 am
by IslandRob
ER757 wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
Recently BA flew their last 747 flight out of SAN, marking the end of scheduled 744 service out of SAN. When was the last 747-300 flight at SAN? Will the 747-800 ever be scheduled to SAN?


747-8 should fly to SAN once there's one operating as Air Force One. The POTUS will almost certainly visit SAN at some point

I think presidential aircraft operate out of Miramar, not SAN. -ir

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:33 am
by Viscount724
blacksoviet wrote:
Cunard wrote:
persiangulf93 wrote:

KLM (PH-BUK) and Korean Air used to fly 743 to SFO


Yes but were discussing SAN not SFO.


Did the KLM 743 even have enough range to get to AMS from SFO?


KL used the 743 and virtually identical modifled 742SUD from the west coast for many years. Even the 741 operated SFO-LHR with Pan Am for many years and AMS is only 92 NM further. Both Pan Am and TWA used the 741 LAX-LHR for years.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:35 am
by SANMAN66
I think someone jumped the gun, according to Flightaware, the BA 744 is back as of Nov.26.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:05 pm
by luftaom
RacheyFlies wrote:
I think Qantas plans their future 789 for SAN or DOH in the future.


Where did that come from? I'm a regular reader of the Australian aviation press, the Australian threads on here and on other sites and that's the first time that I have seen any mention of Qantas and SAN and DOH in the same sentence.

Re: 747-400 departs SAN for the final time

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:52 pm
by theginge
BA have the 744 in their fleet for at least the next 6-8 years so you can't rule out it appearing again between now and then.