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Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:30 pm

Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has claimed that seats on the airline's flights could be free by 2026.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/rya ... =ACERDHP15
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JAmie2k9
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:34 pm

Also claimed 10 €$£ T/A flights. Both will never happen!
 
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Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:34 pm

Free is entirely too expensive for Ryanair...
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:23 pm

Is that completely "free" to the passenger or just the flight part so the passenger will still have to pay all the taxes and fees imposed by the governments etc?

Can't see them making any money doing that... Why would passengers get a free flight then spend money at the airport.. I certainly wouldn't...
If I was another airline flyinf to the same airport I wouldn't want my passenegrs giving money to another airline.
Ryanair might as well just buy the airport and be done with it.
Just more free publicity for Ryanair
 
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Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:32 pm

Local LCC UO have had quite a few free ticket promotions in the past but then there are all sort of additional fee adding together and round trip cost become US$100.
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:39 pm

This is not new per se. MOL stated years ago that his goal was to drive fares to zero (or close to) and derive most revenue (or all revenue) from ancillary fares.
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:44 pm

jomur wrote:
Is that completely "free" to the passenger or just the flight part so the passenger will still have to pay all the taxes and fees imposed by the governments etc?

Can't see them making any money doing that... Why would passengers get a free flight then spend money at the airport.. I certainly wouldn't...
If I was another airline flyinf to the same airport I wouldn't want my passenegrs giving money to another airline.
Ryanair might as well just buy the airport and be done with it.
Just more free publicity for Ryanair


In Europe all airlines, including Ryanair, are obliged to include all taxes and fees in the ticket price. Charging for them on top of the ticket price is illegal and doesn't happen, so if Ryanair claims these flights to be free they will really be free.

Of course it's only the flight itself that is free, but not all the extras. No free checked luggage, no free priority boarding, no free seat picking, no free online check-in more than a week in advance, no free food and drinks on board. All of those extras still cost money, so mostly you still end up paying. Plus they offer all kind of things for sale on board on which they also make money. The cheaper you got your flight, the more you're willing to spend money on board.

Besides that, it'll never be all seats that are free. Even if they offer half their seats for free, the other half will still pay so they still earn enough money to operate the flight.

And don't forget, FR has got other sources of income as well. I once heard that at NRN they own the parking lot at the airport, so all parking fees go directly to Ryanair.
 
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Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:58 pm

We all know Michael O'Leary says crazy things to grab headlines and generate free marketing for his airline, right? Nothing he says – free flights, paid bathrooms, standing-only flights – should be taken at face value.

It's a publicity stunt.

And we fall for it every. single. time.
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:19 pm

JAmie2k9 wrote:
Also claimed 10 €$£ T/A flights. Both will never happen!



That does exist. BRU-Berlin and Hamburg 4.99 or 9.98 return. ;)
 
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Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:31 pm

As PT Barnum once said..."There is a sucker born every minute"
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:54 pm

persiangulf93 wrote:
JAmie2k9 wrote:
Also claimed 10 €$£ T/A flights. Both will never happen!



That does exist. BRU-Berlin and Hamburg 4.99 or 9.98 return. ;)

T/A means Transatlantic which has not happened and probably never will...
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:56 pm

persiangulf93 wrote:
JAmie2k9 wrote:
Also claimed 10 €$£ T/A flights. Both will never happen!


That does exist. BRU-Berlin and Hamburg 4.99 or 9.98 return. ;)


JAmie is talking of transatlantic (= T/A) flights.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:54 pm

Michael O'Leary has said this for several years now. Nothing new ...
 
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Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:25 pm

N202PA wrote:
Free is entirely too expensive for Ryanair...

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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:38 pm

Free flights will never happen. Never. Ever.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:52 pm

Many, many years ago, when Ryanair were needing passengers to fly to SUF to meet their subsidy guarantees, we paid 50p all taxes, fees and bags included for the flight.
 
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Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:01 am

I've paid once 1 € per leg for a return plus taxes with Lufthansa.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:44 am

adamblang wrote:
We all know Michael O'Leary says crazy things to grab headlines and generate free marketing for his airline, right? Nothing he says – free flights, paid bathrooms, standing-only flights – should be taken at face value.

It's a publicity stunt.

And we fall for it every. single. time.


Not everyone falls for it. No such thing is free no matter what they say.
 
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Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:22 am

senatorflyer wrote:
I've paid once 1 € per leg for a return plus taxes with Lufthansa.


But "plus taxes" is no longer allowed in Europe, so if a flight is advertised for one euro you really only pay one euro. There have been times when additional taxes were common, but those are gone.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:59 am

I think he is right and in other news British Airways is going to purchase Virgin Atlantic and the new carrier will be known as British Virgin!



Not going to happen!
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:03 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
senatorflyer wrote:
I've paid once 1 € per leg for a return plus taxes with Lufthansa.


But "plus taxes" is no longer allowed in Europe, so if a flight is advertised for one euro you really only pay one euro. There have been times when additional taxes were common, but those are gone.


I bought yesterday a 1 euro Volotea ticket in their Black Friday sale. When I saw the split in the confirmation email, there was a negative fare (something like -27 euro) to make up for the 28 euro taxes, so it ends up being 1 euro.

I wonder how legal it is to sell tickets to a loss.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:31 am

The day Ryanair flights are free you will have to pay

50€ for bus to airport
75€ for train from airport
100€ per day for airport parking
25€ to drop off from a car near the airport
10€ for a glass of water at the airport
15€ for a glass of water on board
5€ for using the toilet at the airport
10€ for using the toilet on board
30€ for a sandwich at the airport
40€ for airport wifi
10€ for a permission to use your smart phone on the airport
20€ to put a bag in the bins
15€ to use a personal electronic item on board
10€ to close the window blinds

CONGRATS! You are flying for FREE!

Every thinking person knows that there is nothing for free, someone has to pay for the party...
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:30 am

You are wrong, there is FREE PR for Ryanair and MOL, all over Europe, by launching such press Releases.
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:44 am

11725Flyer wrote:
Free flights will never happen. Never. Ever.


Actually, for publicity purposes, I would not be surprised if we see some free seat offers from FR, but they would just be a very limited number of seats, on a very limited number of flights, bookable for a very limited period of time (as with most FR offers). Offering a seat for €4.99 is not much different to offering a free seat as neither is going to be profitable, but these offers attract potential customers to their website and I suspect the loss incurred on the few 'special offer seats' available is more than balanced by the additional bookings gained and the charges from the various ancillary fees. The bottom line is that it is all free publicity for FR, which is a philosophy they have utilised very effectively for years and which, though often laughable and even incredulous, has clearly had the desired effect of boosting their profitability making them one of the most successful airlines in the world.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:56 am

People here are saying that it will never be free or that there will still be extra charges, but go back ten years ago and I certainly did a free return flight with ryanair from London to Norway. Actually free, didn't need to enter any card details. They've done it before!
 
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Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:48 pm

flyingbird wrote:
CONGRATS! You are flying for FREE!

Every thinking person knows that there is nothing for free, someone has to pay for the party...


I agree! The flights will have to cost at least as much as we currently pay to communicate via facebook, search on google and debate on Airliners. However given a similar business model there is reason that we need to pay more than that for our flights!
 
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Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:27 pm

bobscousin wrote:
People here are saying that it will never be free or that there will still be extra charges, but go back ten years ago and I certainly did a free return flight with ryanair from London to Norway. Actually free, didn't need to enter any card details. They've done it before!


Back in 2004 - 2006 I flew 28 one way flights with Ryanair for £0.01 (under UK regulations you couldn't offer them for free so they had to charge you £0.01). I still have my credit card statements to prove it since most people on here keep thinking that one of the most profitable airlines in the world (FR) will go bankrupt if they offer flights for free...

FR has done it before and can do it again without having a huge impact to its profits... free flights generare a lot of free marketing (word of mouth)
 
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Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:49 pm

winterlight wrote:
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has claimed that seats on the airline's flights could be free by 2026.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/rya ... =ACERDHP15


The flight itself is free, but the service fee for having your boarding pass scanned is $99.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:11 pm

I don't think that you'll ever get a "free" flight, even not when you're choosing Ryanair. I guess that's just one another of O'Leary's insane ideas, like once as he wanted his passengers to pay for using the lavatory. As I read, they want to negotiate an agreement with their main hubs, which sets that Ryanair earns half of the turnover achieved by the airport. But I actually don't know how that should work out.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:10 pm

rojo wrote:
bobscousin wrote:
People here are saying that it will never be free or that there will still be extra charges, but go back ten years ago and I certainly did a free return flight with ryanair from London to Norway. Actually free, didn't need to enter any card details. They've done it before!


Back in 2004 - 2006 I flew 28 one way flights with Ryanair for £0.01 (under UK regulations you couldn't offer them for free so they had to charge you £0.01). I still have my credit card statements to prove it since most people on here keep thinking that one of the most profitable airlines in the world (FR) will go bankrupt if they offer flights for free...

FR has done it before and can do it again without having a huge impact to its profits... free flights generare a lot of free marketing (word of mouth)


I had the same experience. In my case 0.01€. I did 3 trips in total. The most "expensive" one was to Paris and including all transports to GRO (from Barcelona) and to BVA the overall cost was 47€ round trip. A total bargain.
Every time I talk about FR people still remember that, so indeed lots of free marketing.
 
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Re: Ryanair flights could one day be free

Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:56 pm

ThePilot4Life wrote:
I don't think that you'll ever get a "free" flight, even not when you're choosing Ryanair. I guess that's just one another of O'Leary's insane ideas, like once as he wanted his passengers to pay for using the lavatory. As I read, they want to negotiate an agreement with their main hubs, which sets that Ryanair earns half of the turnover achieved by the airport. But I actually don't know how that should work out.


Do people actually think O'Leary was serious when talking about paying to use the lavatory?, Jesus wept as they say! Like 99% of what Mick says it was BS that got people talking!
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