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MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:16 pm

The Irkut MS-21 has achieved another important milestone by putting into service its first simulator:

http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/852657.html

What a nice-looking cockpit btw.
 
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:31 pm

Question that has nothing to do with this. But could the MC21 be sold to airlines that cannot buy Airbus or Boeing due to sanctions? Or is it the same deal as Airbus?

Great pictures though thanks
 
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:36 pm

Who built the simulator? CAE? Thalys? Singer? Or a Russian company?
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:11 pm

SR380 wrote:
Question that has nothing to do with this. But could the MC21 be sold to airlines that cannot buy Airbus or Boeing due to sanctions? Or is it the same deal as Airbus?

Great pictures though thanks


Yes, but not immediately available. There will be an MS-21 version with Russian engines (PD-14) but with Western avionics and systems(Honeywell) which is the one to be used by Aeroflot, but there is an import substitution program running in parallel which will be used for government agencies and will also be available for countries under Western sanctions.
 
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:15 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
Who built the simulator? CAE? Thalys? Singer? Or a Russian company?


NPF Systems from Russia, but I think CAE also had some participation in it.

BTW, the OEW of the MS-21-300 has been leaked, it will be 3600kg lighter than the A-320, mainly because on savings due to the CFRP wing.
 
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:18 pm

Looks like a fine copy of a mix of a 787 and an Airbus cockpit.
 
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:24 pm

Has the MS-21 even flown yet? Limited data to build a performance and handling data package I would have thought.
 
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:01 pm

It seems a little bit odd to me that the instructor position is biased towards the left side of the sim. Pretty much every sim I can recall being in has had the position biased towards the right. To me, the right side seems a little easier write or use the mouse (if you're right handed).

The cockpit does look clean and relatively uncluttered.

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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:05 pm

Wayfarer515 wrote:
SR380 wrote:
Question that has nothing to do with this. But could the MC21 be sold to airlines that cannot buy Airbus or Boeing due to sanctions? Or is it the same deal as Airbus?

Great pictures though thanks


Yes, but not immediately available. There will be an MS-21 version with Russian engines (PD-14) but with Western avionics and systems(Honeywell) which is the one to be used by Aeroflot, but there is an import substitution program running in parallel which will be used for government agencies and will also be available for countries under Western sanctions.


Thanks!
 
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:21 am

Slcpilot wrote:
It seems a little bit odd to me that the instructor position is biased towards the left side of the sim. Pretty much every sim I can recall being in has had the position biased towards the right. To me, the right side seems a little easier write or use the mouse (if you're right handed).

The cockpit does look clean and relatively uncluttered.

SLCPilot


I have only ever seen instructors on the left side as pictured.. what I haven't seen is an instructor in full uniform :)
Nice looking flight deck though.
 
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Re: MS-21 Simulator Goes Operational

Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:36 am

Natflyer wrote:
Has the MS-21 even flown yet? Limited data to build a performance and handling data package I would have thought.


Right now the input data comes from the basic characteristics obtained from TsAGI windtunnel results, and the simulator is aimed at pilots familiarizing with the cockpit and systems. Once the flight tests begin the data will be updated accordingly.

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