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enilria wrote:November was supposed to be the time of year they were going to start selling via Amadeus for Fall 2017. It appears that is delayed again.
wnflyguy wrote:WN next scheduled release is coming in a few days just May flying. Along with the December 6 release the following December 8 GK will be speaking at NY Wings club luncheon.
Rumors,predictions and speculation Have FLL getting 7 new international markets with one being a completely new WN destination.
In Addition AUS is rumored to be getting 3 new none Daily international flights for the summer.
First is my AUS predictions
AUS-MBJ Wednesday and Sundays
AUS-SJD Tuesday,Thursday and Saturday's
AUS-PUJ Monday and Friday
My FLL predictions
FLL-SJO Monday,Tuesday,Thursday,Saturday
FLL-LIR Wednesday,Friday,Sunday
FLL-AUA Tuesday ,Thursday,Saturday
FLL-BZE Wednesday,Sunday
FLL-PUJ Monday ,Friday
FLL-MBJ Daily
FLL-CUN Daily
FLL-LIM one Daily new city.
Enjoy
Flyguy
msycajun wrote:It seems like most WN non-daily flying is once weekly Sat or Sun leisure routes. Have they started doing much non-daily on other days of the week as you predict? I haven't been keeping up, but it seems like they usually fly either daily or just once or twice a week. Will WN even want to fly international out of AUS given that it just opened up a big facility at HOU?
enilria wrote:I think most of your list won't happen because 1) they don't often do nondaily midweek flights and 2) the seasonality for most of those is more toward Winter. I'll throw in a third reason which is that June is when they tend to run most everything daily as even weekends are strong in most weeks. November was supposed to be the time of year they were going to start selling via Amadeus for Fall 2017. It appears that is delayed again.
I might expect more seasonal transcons, particularly from SAN.
enilria wrote:I think most of your list won't happen because 1) they don't often do nondaily midweek flights and 2) the seasonality for most of those is more toward Winter. I'll throw in a third reason which is that June is when they tend to run most everything daily as even weekends are strong in most weeks. November was supposed to be the time of year they were going to start selling via Amadeus for Fall 2017. It appears that is delayed again.
I might expect more seasonal transcons, particularly from SAN.
usflyguy wrote:Amadeus goes live for domestic reservations with this release on December 6. Which is right on track. Thanks.
wnflyguy wrote:So something Big is being announced at the NY wings club other than a new destination.
Top 2 rumors are International code share or revamp carry on policy.
For the carry on policy sounding like Wana get a way fares may require you to check one bag for free and limited to one small personal carry on item for under your seat.
If true that sounds promising to speed up boarding and turn times.
Flyguy
SWADawg wrote:wnflyguy wrote:So something Big is being announced at the NY wings club other than a new destination.
Top 2 rumors are International code share or revamp carry on policy.
For the carry on policy sounding like Wana get a way fares may require you to check one bag for free and limited to one small personal carry on item for under your seat.
If true that sounds promising to speed up boarding and turn times.
Flyguy
Good luck enforcing that with open seating and no way to identify WGA's with full fare paying passengers. Unless WN is going to assigned seats or changing which order passengers board based on fare paid, I have a hard time seeing how this type of carry on policy could be enforced and the last thing the Flight Attendants are going to want to do on a fully loaded -800 is be the bag police.
msycajun wrote:WN isn't exactly cheap a lot of the time, because they can command a premium for free bags.
wnflyguy wrote:For the carry on policy sounding like Wana get a way fares may require you to check one bag for free and limited to one small personal carry on item for under your seat.
If true that sounds promising to speed up boarding and turn times.
enilria wrote:November was supposed to be the time of year they were going to start selling via Amadeus for Fall 2017. It appears that is delayed again.
dbo861 wrote:Any time saved by only allowing one carryon would be negated two fold by flight attendants enforcing the rule. Not going to happen.
wnflyguy wrote:
FLL-LIM one Daily new city.
Flyguy
ScottB wrote:wnflyguy wrote:For the carry on policy sounding like Wana get a way fares may require you to check one bag for free and limited to one small personal carry on item for under your seat.
If true that sounds promising to speed up boarding and turn times.
I don't see that speeding up boarding/turn times at all. The gate agent would be forced to verify that every boarding passenger with a WGA fare only had a personal item when boarding and would have to gate check any bags from those passengers which were overhead-bin-sized. Those folks might end up sitting down a bit faster, but there would be a lot more work (and perhaps too much for one) for the gate agent.
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:wnflyguy wrote:
FLL-LIM one Daily new city.
Flyguy
Wow. That would certainly be...out there.
In terms of new destinations, aren't there still numerous places in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America that would be more likely before getting into South America?
ScottB wrote:The Q3 earnings release stated (as a GK quote): "The successful implementation of our new reservation system is a top priority for this quarter. The first release is currently scheduled for December, and final technology readiness is progressing as planned." That might be a delay from a previous schedule but a one-month slip for a large IT project is certainly nothing out of the ordinary.
SWADawg wrote:wnflyguy wrote:So something Big is being announced at the NY wings club other than a new destination.
Top 2 rumors are International code share or revamp carry on policy.
For the carry on policy sounding like Wana get a way fares may require you to check one bag for free and limited to one small personal carry on item for under your seat.
If true that sounds promising to speed up boarding and turn times.
Flyguy
Good luck enforcing that with open seating and no way to identify WGA's with full fare paying passengers. Unless WN is going to assigned seats or changing which order passengers board based on fare paid, I have a hard time seeing how this type of carry on policy could be enforced and the last thing the Flight Attendants are going to want to do on a fully loaded -800 is be the bag police.
rj777 wrote:Any rumors/inside info regarding MKE
wnflyguy wrote:My FLL predictions
FLL-SJO Monday,Tuesday,Thursday,Saturday
FLL-LIR Wednesday,Friday,Sunday
FLL-AUA Tuesday ,Thursday,Saturday
FLL-BZE Wednesday,Sunday
FLL-PUJ Monday ,Friday
FLL-MBJ Daily
FLL-CUN Daily
FLL-LIM one Daily new city.
Enjoy
Flyguy
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:wnflyguy wrote:
FLL-LIM one Daily new city.
Flyguy
Wow. That would certainly be...out there.
In terms of new destinations, aren't there still numerous places in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America that would be more likely before getting into South America?
MaverickTTT wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:wnflyguy wrote:
FLL-LIM one Daily new city.
Flyguy
Wow. That would certainly be...out there.
In terms of new destinations, aren't there still numerous places in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America that would be more likely before getting into South America?
I usually take anything wnflyguy has to say with a grain of salt...but, a WN pilot friend of mine pointed out to me that, despite the airport not being in their OpSpecs, a handful of LIM Jepp charts showed up in his EFB recently. I wouldn't call it probable, but I also wouldn't totally discount it.
That said, I'm thinking there's something bigger than a new city coming at NY Wings. I don't claim to know what that is, only that I think they're due for something big. Altea and the Pilot/FA contracts being done will allow WN the ability to make some moves that are much different than what they've done before. Should be interesting.
TW787 wrote:After all, with the slim price difference that always exists between the any time and BS fares, I'd be willing to bet that 99.5% of pax not in BS are on a WGA fare. So it is as easy as A1-15 bring whatever you want, everybody else is limited.
Cubsrule wrote:Gate checking is down dramatically over two or three years ago. I was on a full 733 LAX-BNA, a flight where virtually everyone has a bag because of the length, a month ago or so and we left with space in the bins.
asteriskceo wrote:Cubsrule wrote:Gate checking is down dramatically over two or three years ago. I was on a full 733 LAX-BNA, a flight where virtually everyone has a bag because of the length, a month ago or so and we left with space in the bins.
Probably has more to do with the fact that WN added bin extenders on many of the -300's so that bags could fit in wheels in, or out.
Abeam79 wrote:I'm just not really confident with wn's ambitions in FLL. B6 has been aggressive building a impressive network with much more to come,especially with the seemingly inevitable move B6 of purchasing longer range airplanes, going deeper all over south america and Europe (ie A321neoLR, or wodebodies) which also been public about, added in top of that with their product they are currently rolling out now and throughout the next couple years with better seatback tvs, free fast wifi extending soon all over the Caribbean for them, 300 free movies from ptv's on top of the streaming movies. Better legroom,mint, and more snack and food options make me think about how wn's product can really be too viable to compete with them in fll, especially with the looming cost creep issue at wn's doorstep.
All i can say i wish them the best.
Cubsrule wrote:TW787 wrote:Given that WGA has an advance purchase requirement, it's not 99.5 percent . . .
TW787 wrote:Cubsrule wrote:TW787 wrote:Given that WGA has an advance purchase requirement, it's not 99.5 percent . . .
Not sure you're getting my point. Look at DAL-HOU for travel today. Anytime is $225 and BS is $247. So for $22 extra you get a rapid rewards multiplier, priority security, a free drink and guaranteed A1-15 boarding. So given inside 24 hours you'd have to be either a masochist or not very intelligent to select anytime and being C20 for boarding for that level of difference.
Or maybe you are making a commentary on the level of intelligence of the average WN customer?
asteriskceo wrote:I completely agree and I would say a majority of the Flight Attendants and Pilots agree we desperately need to overhaul our inflight product. However, it will never happen the HDQ folks REFUSE to belive there is anyting wrong with our inflight serivce. They are "in luv" with our tray service and think is is hospitable. The fact is they spent thousands of dollars developing a "cutting edge galley" so we can continue using trays which the HDQ folks who dont work these jets are conveinced our Customers love. Furthermore, they are convinced we have the best inflight produt out there.......I do wish we could offer somethig we all could be proud of.Abeam79 wrote:I'm just not really confident with wn's ambitions in FLL. B6 has been aggressive building a impressive network with much more to come,especially with the seemingly inevitable move B6 of purchasing longer range airplanes, going deeper all over south america and Europe (ie A321neoLR, or wodebodies) which also been public about, added in top of that with their product they are currently rolling out now and throughout the next couple years with better seatback tvs, free fast wifi extending soon all over the Caribbean for them, 300 free movies from ptv's on top of the streaming movies. Better legroom,mint, and more snack and food options make me think about how wn's product can really be too viable to compete with them in fll, especially with the looming cost creep issue at wn's doorstep.
All i can say i wish them the best.
I share in your skepticism. I also share a similar view in regards to their California network with the upcoming AS/VX merger. It really is time for a meaningful product overhaul over at WN if they want to survive in the long term.
BMWdrvr75 wrote:asteriskceo wrote:I completely agree and I would say a majority of the Flight Attendants and Pilots agree we desperately need to overhaul our inflight product. However, it will never happen the HDQ folks REFUSE to belive there is anyting wrong with our inflight serivce. They are "in luv" with our tray service and think is is hospitable. The fact is they spent thousands of dollars developing a "cutting edge galley" so we can continue using trays which the HDQ folks who dont work these jets are conveinced our Customers love. Furthermore, they are convinced we have the best inflight produt out there.......I do wish we could offer somethig we all could be proud of.Abeam79 wrote:I'm just not really confident with wn's ambitions in FLL. B6 has been aggressive building a impressive network with much more to come,especially with the seemingly inevitable move B6 of purchasing longer range airplanes, going deeper all over south america and Europe (ie A321neoLR, or wodebodies) which also been public about, added in top of that with their product they are currently rolling out now and throughout the next couple years with better seatback tvs, free fast wifi extending soon all over the Caribbean for them, 300 free movies from ptv's on top of the streaming movies. Better legroom,mint, and more snack and food options make me think about how wn's product can really be too viable to compete with them in fll, especially with the looming cost creep issue at wn's doorstep.
All i can say i wish them the best.
I share in your skepticism. I also share a similar view in regards to their California network with the upcoming AS/VX merger. It really is time for a meaningful product overhaul over at WN if they want to survive in the long term.
dcannon1227 wrote:MaverickTTT wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Wow. That would certainly be...out there.
In terms of new destinations, aren't there still numerous places in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America that would be more likely before getting into South America?
I usually take anything wnflyguy has to say with a grain of salt...but, a WN pilot friend of mine pointed out to me that, despite the airport not being in their OpSpecs, a handful of LIM Jepp charts showed up in his EFB recently. I wouldn't call it probable, but I also wouldn't totally discount it.
That said, I'm thinking there's something bigger than a new city coming at NY Wings. I don't claim to know what that is, only that I think they're due for something big. Altea and the Pilot/FA contracts being done will allow WN the ability to make some moves that are much different than what they've done before. Should be interesting.
Speaking of EFB's. Southwest has a tailored chart for SXM now. Not sure if that means anything.
usflyguy wrote:BMWdrvr75 wrote:asteriskceo wrote:I completely agree and I would say a majority of the Flight Attendants and Pilots agree we desperately need to overhaul our inflight product. However, it will never happen the HDQ folks REFUSE to belive there is anyting wrong with our inflight serivce. They are "in luv" with our tray service and think is is hospitable. The fact is they spent thousands of dollars developing a "cutting edge galley" so we can continue using trays which the HDQ folks who dont work these jets are conveinced our Customers love. Furthermore, they are convinced we have the best inflight produt out there.......I do wish we could offer somethig we all could be proud of.
I share in your skepticism. I also share a similar view in regards to their California network with the upcoming AS/VX merger. It really is time for a meaningful product overhaul over at WN if they want to survive in the long term.
You speak for yourself and yourself alone. If flight attendants feel the way that you do, they've failed miserably in conveying in that in the annual surveys and town hall meetings. The vast majority of pilots could care less about what amenities are offered in the cabin... the fewer items that can break, the better.
swacle wrote:dcannon1227 wrote:MaverickTTT wrote:I usually take anything wnflyguy has to say with a grain of salt...but, a WN pilot friend of mine pointed out to me that, despite the airport not being in their OpSpecs, a handful of LIM Jepp charts showed up in his EFB recently. I wouldn't call it probable, but I also wouldn't totally discount it.
That said, I'm thinking there's something bigger than a new city coming at NY Wings. I don't claim to know what that is, only that I think they're due for something big. Altea and the Pilot/FA contracts being done will allow WN the ability to make some moves that are much different than what they've done before. Should be interesting.
Speaking of EFB's. Southwest has a tailored chart for SXM now. Not sure if that means anything.
Not sure whybrid LIM would have a tailored chart, but SXM could be an alternate for SJU or PUJ?