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matt
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AC832/AC833 Dec 2/Dec 3

Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:22 pm

Hello. Does anyone know why AC832 (763) on Dec. 2 flew YUL-FRA-BRU instead of YUL-BRU? And why today's (Dec. 3) AC833 is slated to fly BRU-YYT-YUL instead of BRU-YUL? Is it a crew/scheduling issue? I'm curious.
Next flights: YQM-YUL-YVR-YUL-YQM / YQM-YYZ-HKG-DXB-BCN-YUL-YQM
 
Topguncanada
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Re: AC832/AC833 Dec 2/Dec 3

Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:43 pm

AC832 diverted to FRA due to fog.

AC833 had to stop in YYT due to crew duty issues. (Pilots)

They were likely already on the way to the airport before it was know 833 would be delayed hence their duty day had begun.

Crew change YYT.
 
Topguncanada
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Re: AC832/AC833 Dec 2/Dec 3

Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:44 pm

AC832 diverted to FRA due to fog.

AC833 had to stop in YYT due to crew duty issues. (Pilots)

They were likely already on the way to the airport before it was know 833 would be delayed hence their duty day had begun.

Crew change YYT.
 
matt
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Re: AC832/AC833 Dec 2/Dec 3

Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:16 pm

Topguncanada wrote:
AC832 diverted to FRA due to fog.

AC833 had to stop in YYT due to crew duty issues. (Pilots)

They were likely already on the way to the airport before it was know 833 would be delayed hence their duty day had begun.

Crew change YYT.


I figured that must have been the issue. So AC would have deadheaded a whole crew to YYT just for YYT-YUL. Still cheaper than cancelling the flight altogether...
Next flights: YQM-YUL-YVR-YUL-YQM / YQM-YYZ-HKG-DXB-BCN-YUL-YQM
 
Thenoflyzone
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Re: AC832/AC833 Dec 2/Dec 3

Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:56 pm

At time of AC's arrival into BRU, the weather was pretty crappy. Funny thing is, everyone else (except some regionals) landed without a problem. DAL42 and UAL972 were right behind AC and they landed.

Seems as though AC could only fly the CAT II approach, whereas everyone else was able CAT III.

Their minimums for landing on runway 25R were 350 meters (1200 ft) RVR A, and 175 m (600 ft) RVR B. They tried the approach first time, RVR were below their minimum, so they went around. Came back a bit later, tried a second time, RVR's were still below minimums, so they diverted to FRA.

EBBR 030750Z VRB02KT 0250 R25L/0250N R25R/0300N R01/0325N FZFG OVC001 M01/M01 Q1026 NOSIG
EBBR 030820Z 09003KT 0250 R25L/0275N R25R/0325N R01/0300N FZFG OVC001 M01/M01 Q1026 NOSIG
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1900Driver
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Re: AC832/AC833 Dec 2/Dec 3

Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:40 pm

AC 330s are CatIII capabale. Could have been an MEL on aircraft that downgraded it to CAT II. Also, how much fuel was it carrying? All variables that lead towards a diversion.
 
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Re: AC832/AC833 Dec 2/Dec 3

Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:44 pm

1900Driver wrote:
AC 330s are CatIII capabale. Could have been an MEL on aircraft that downgraded it to CAT II. Also, how much fuel was it carrying? All variables that lead towards a diversion.

The flight was operated by a B763. Air Canada has downgauged a few flights and reduced frequency due to low demand ahead of the holidays.
 
1900Driver
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Re: AC832/AC833 Dec 2/Dec 3

Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:49 pm

763 is catIII as well. Same reasoning should apply.

The 330 swaps is mostly due to their cabin reconfiguration program. Thanks for the notice though.

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