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sleekjet
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Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:18 pm

Just got a call from my son who had witnessed a United Embraer go nose-down on the runway at SAT. Front landing gear failed. According to scanner chatter, 2 injured coming down the slides. That's all I know at the moment.
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:59 pm

Apparently on runway 4, United Express E175

http://www.ksat.com/news/plane-declares-inflight-emergency-airport-official-says

Link has pictures.
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:02 pm

I wouldn't call that a "belly landing" considering it's only without an operable nose gear.
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:15 pm

From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:19 pm

Just wait until the holier-than-thou posters get a look at that photo. I think I'll pop some corn and wait for the nonsense to start getting posted!
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:30 pm

LAXintl wrote:

Ouch! A month in the hangar and good as new!
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:30 pm

Are those slides at the back not a little steep to exit??
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:38 pm

flight152 wrote:
I wouldn't call that a "belly landing" considering it's only without an operable nose gear.


Tell that to the people on board that aircraft.
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:39 pm

Wow, not even months old. Good job by the pilots to keep it straight.
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:41 pm

MSPNWA wrote:
Wow, not even months old. Good job by the pilots to keep it straight.


Indeed, certificate issued June 2016. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... rtxt=161SY
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:43 pm

11725Flyer wrote:
flight152 wrote:
I wouldn't call that a "belly landing" considering it's only without an operable nose gear.


Tell that to the people on board that aircraft.


What? It wasn't a belly landing, why does the definition change for the people on board?
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:27 pm

IPFreely wrote:
Just wait until the holier-than-thou posters get a look at that photo. I think I'll pop some corn and wait for the nonsense to start getting posted!


Do you think it's a write Off?
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:40 pm

Spacepope wrote:

Do you think it's a write Off?


Looks like they kept the nose up until they were almost stopped, should be minimal damage. And it's a brand new frame. Probably a few months getting some rework done and back in service.
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:52 pm

wezgulf3 wrote:
Are those slides at the back not a little steep to exit??


Simply change your EVAC commands to something like "SIT AND SLIDE". They're perfectly usable, just require a slower flow-rate.
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:53 pm

antoniemey wrote:
Spacepope wrote:

Do you think it's a write Off?


Looks like they kept the nose up until they were almost stopped, should be minimal damage. And it's a brand new frame. Probably a few months getting some rework done and back in service.


While you're technically correct, you sure missed the joke.
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:54 pm

this frame is so fresh, its value should easily exceed the cost for repair.

looks they broke off the appr at Monterrey at low altitude
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:59 pm

Looking at this aircrafts flight history it looks like its had an interesting last few days:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N161SY

Am I reading the flight history correctly that this plane was to fly ORD-SAT yesterday (12/3) and had to divert, so it first tried MTY, then had to attempt a second divert and ended up in IAH? It then departed today (12/4) for MTY and ended up diverting to SAT where this landing happened? Back to back to back diversions?
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:12 am

clrd4t8koff wrote:
Looking at this aircrafts flight history it looks like its had an interesting last few days:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N161SY

Am I reading the flight history correctly that this plane was to fly ORD-SAT yesterday (12/3) and had to divert, so it first tried MTY, then had to attempt a second divert and ended up in IAH? It then departed today (12/4) for MTY and ended up diverting to SAT where this landing happened? Back to back to back diversions?


Actually, it was flying ORD-MTY yesterday (12/3), tried to divert to SAT but ended up diverting to IAH. Then today (12/4) tries to fly to MTY and diverts to SAT.
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:36 am

ciccone wrote:
Actually, it was flying ORD-MTY yesterday (12/3), tried to divert to SAT but ended up diverting to IAH. Then today (12/4) tries to fly to MTY and diverts to SAT.


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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:47 am

wezgulf3 wrote:
Are those slides at the back not a little steep to exit??


Yes they are. No rush to evacuate in a situation like this. Why not use the front doors?
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:49 am

Natflyer wrote:
Why not use the front doors?


Probably concern about the possibility of a gear fire thanks to the aircraft scraping along the ground.
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:51 am

Was this a brand new E175? The interior shots that were shown on the news made it look like this was a brand new plane.
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:00 am

^ Yes.
jetmatt777 wrote:
MSPNWA wrote:
Wow, not even months old. Good job by the pilots to keep it straight.


Indeed, certificate issued June 2016. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... rtxt=161SY
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:51 am

Concerning the ORD-MTY, with failed diversion at SAT yesterday. Most likely had to divert to IAH due heavy rain an T storms. SAT received almost 4 inches yesterday, and the city had multiple road closures due localized flooding. Even delayed me enroute for my ER shift.
 
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Re: Belly landing at SAT

Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:57 am

Would this airplane still have an Embraer warranty? Was returning to United States a good decision, even after reaching the destination?

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