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Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:57 pm

A Key Lime SA227AC crashed today on a flight from Panama City, FL to Albany Georgia (LYM308), sadly killing the pilot. Registration N765FA. This is their first fatal accident since a Cessna 404 went down nearly 2 years ago.
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:10 pm

Looking at the flight track and the line of thunderstorms makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. Looks like a UPS feeder run. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/LYM ... /KECP/KABY

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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:12 pm

Last night was brutal here in the Southeast with major thunderstorms. Sadly I suspect that played a role.
 
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:21 pm

Most likely a case of get-there-itis. Looking at that cell, I am sure it was moving fast, and he tried to get out before it was too late. Unfortunately, he waited a bit too long. Sometimes waiting an hour for a front to pass is the best way to live.
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:40 pm

Polot wrote:
Last night was brutal here in the Southeast with major thunderstorms. Sadly I suspect that played a role.

The storm looked pretty intense. I'm surprised the flight wasn't cancelled or at least delayed until the storm passed. :shock:
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:47 pm

lavalampluva wrote:
Polot wrote:
Last night was brutal here in the Southeast with major thunderstorms. Sadly I suspect that played a role.

The storm looked pretty intense. I'm surprised the flight wasn't cancelled or at least delayed until the storm passed. :shock:


You obviously aren't aware with how 135 freight operations go. Often, its fly or don't have a job, unfortunately.
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:01 pm

Are their Metros fitted with wx radar? RIP to the pilot.
 
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:28 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
lavalampluva wrote:
Polot wrote:
Last night was brutal here in the Southeast with major thunderstorms. Sadly I suspect that played a role.

The storm looked pretty intense. I'm surprised the flight wasn't cancelled or at least delayed until the storm passed. :shock:


You obviously aren't aware with how 135 freight operations go. Often, its fly or don't have a job, unfortunately.


Unfortunately we see the result of this attitude today.
 
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:59 pm

Spacepope wrote:
A Key Lime SA227AC crashed today on a flight from Panama City, FL to Albany Georgia (LYM308), sadly killing the pilot. Registration N765FA. This is their first fatal accident since a Cessna 404 went down nearly 2 years ago.



Might as well say " this is the first crash they had since the last time they crashed".

I realize it was a quote from another source but it is interesting how idiotic reporters are.
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:45 pm

Don't be late, penetrate. Unfortunately that's how it goes in these types of operations.
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:44 am

tb727 wrote:
Looking at the flight track and the line of thunderstorms makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. Looks like a UPS feeder run. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/LYM ... /KECP/KABY

RIP to another Freightdog.


Looking at that line on radar I would say it was totally dumb trying to outrun the line in front and then past through the gust front for landing. Not a wise decision to fly especially for a pilot with 15yrs experience flying for Key Lime.
 
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:19 am

airtran737 wrote:
Most likely a case of get-there-itis. Looking at that cell, I am sure it was moving fast, and he tried to get out before it was too late. Unfortunately, he waited a bit too long. Sometimes waiting an hour for a front to pass is the best way to live.


Can I ask, what exactly happens to an aircraft flying through a thunderstorm? Are the forces to brutal that the aircraft literally gets ripped apart? Or why does it lead to crashes?
 
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:33 am

CARST wrote:
airtran737 wrote:
Most likely a case of get-there-itis. Looking at that cell, I am sure it was moving fast, and he tried to get out before it was too late. Unfortunately, he waited a bit too long. Sometimes waiting an hour for a front to pass is the best way to live.


Can I ask, what exactly happens to an aircraft flying through a thunderstorm? Are the forces to brutal that the aircraft literally gets ripped apart? Or why does it lead to crashes?


In a thunderstorm, there can be pretty severe updrafts and downdrafts that can create severe to extreme turbulence. These can easily cause structural damage to an aircraft as well as loss of control of the aircraft. The heavy rain in a cell can cause the engines to fail if too much water gets ingested too quickly. Hail can also damage an aircraft pretty badly.
 
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:38 am

CARST wrote:
airtran737 wrote:
Most likely a case of get-there-itis. Looking at that cell, I am sure it was moving fast, and he tried to get out before it was too late. Unfortunately, he waited a bit too long. Sometimes waiting an hour for a front to pass is the best way to live.


Can I ask, what exactly happens to an aircraft flying through a thunderstorm? Are the forces to brutal that the aircraft literally gets ripped apart? Or why does it lead to crashes?


The biggest threat is turbulence and wind shear which can quickly overcome the design limits of the wings and fuselage, tearing the plane apart. Severe icing can bring it down. Downdrafts of 3000+fpm can overcome lower power planes at lower altitudes. Hail's a biatch too.
 
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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:47 am

Thanks for your answers... this made me think of these events, they seemed nasty, but lot life threatening, but perhaps my perception was wrong:

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Re: Key Lime Metroliner down in Georgia

Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:08 am

Poor man. So sad for the fate of that fragile, human, solo flyer.. How scared he must have been...
Killed by the pressures of a totally wrong system, totally based on the wrong assumptions and false needs.
People get so easily stressed these days if their envelope of stupid meaningless bureaucratic sh*t is not in the hands of the intended recipient within the fabled 24 hour bracket. As if the world is going to end...

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