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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:50 am

Given the backtrack to LCA, it's surprising QF didn't divert to Athens. The distance looks about the same.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:38 am

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QF1 DXB-LHR diverted to LCA due to a medical emergency

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Unusual choice of diversion airport. I would've thought that IST or ATH would be more suitable (although perhaps with the instability in Turkey that is not an option at present? - still for a medical offload and a bit of gas and go shouldn't be an issue).
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:29 am

Australia and Taiwan sign open skies agreement
Previous agreement limited Taiwanese carriers to 6000 seats weekly to BNE, SYD, MEL, and PER (never utilized)
All restrictions are removed now
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/foreign-affairs/2016/12/16/486856/Taiwan-signs.htm
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:50 am

FlyCorporate today have announced direct flights between BNE and OAG. Flights commence 20th Feb.

http://www.flycorporate.com.au/articles ... -brisbane/

http://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/s ... ne/?cs=103
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:40 am

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I wonder if QF is gonna make PER-AKL daily and year round now, with the right timing it could be a good feeder to LHR flights.


I would have thought PER-WLG would be a better option if an aircraft can do it. There are plenty of 1-stop options between AKL and LHR, but a service via PER would be the only option for a 1-stop while the runway at WLG is short?


Do both...
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:12 am

QF celebrates 1,000,000 737-800 scheduled flights

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Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:14 pm

kaichinshih wrote:
Australia and Taiwan sign open skies agreement
Previous agreement limited Taiwanese carriers to 6000 seats weekly to BNE, SYD, MEL, and PER (never utilized)
All restrictions are removed now
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/foreign-affairs/2016/12/16/486856/Taiwan-signs.htm


Are the 6,000 seats each way? or return? If they are each way then no Australian port is close.

The only port close to 6,000 seats return would be BNE with:
BR 5x weekly A332 = 1,260 seats each way
CI 5x weekly A333 = 1,525 seats each way (1,228 in offpeak)
Total = 2,785 seats each way or 5,570 seats return

Sydney has a daily CI which is 2,149 seats each way or 4,298 return. So there is still plenty of capacity in SYD under the existing agreement.

I suppose the only possible expansion would be to see CI or BR bring BNE to daily, though this is unlikely given BR only recently went from 2 to 5x weekly so lots of extra capacity in that market at the moment.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:37 am

Zkpilot wrote:
qf789 wrote:
QF1 DXB-LHR diverted to LCA due to a medical emergency

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https://twitter.com/flightradar24

Unusual choice of diversion airport. I would've thought that IST or ATH would be more suitable (although perhaps with the instability in Turkey that is not an option at present? - still for a medical offload and a bit of gas and go shouldn't be an issue).


With travel warning to Turkey on a high IST probably ONLY would've been considered had it been an inflight emergency so the long backtrack to LCA indicates a possible medical emergency.

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Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:15 am

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With travel warning to Turkey on a high IST probably ONLY would've been considered had it been an inflight emergency so the long backtrack to LCA indicates a possible medical emergency. EK413

Still doesn't explain why they didn't choose ATH; much less of a backtrack.
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Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:37 am

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With travel warning to Turkey on a high IST probably ONLY would've been considered had it been an inflight emergency so the long backtrack to LCA indicates a possible medical emergency. EK413

Still doesn't explain why they didn't choose ATH; much less of a backtrack.


LCA is equiped for A380's and an alternate airport.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:49 am

An article in the West Australian today

Was talking about Perth - London

The WA and Tasmanian tourism councils are lobbying for direct Perth-Hobart flights to link in with London flights.

Rock Lobster industry are happy with the new flights as they are saying they can now enter the European market.... which was to do with the flight timings. They were saying having a flight leave at 7:30pm and arriving in London at 6am means they can have their produce in London restaurants for Lunch. Interesting

Last bit of the whole thing was the flight will be 17.5 hours plus or take Perth to London and 15 hours plus or take London to Perth.

Not sure what bits are true or not but thought it was interesting.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:13 am

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LCA is equiped for A380's and an alternate airport.


ATH has handled A380s in the past so I'm sure they could go there if they had to.

LCA is just QF's preferred alternate in that area, it's that simple. Their pilots will have done simulator training for LCA, handling contracts will be in place, they will have all their contingency plans worked out etc. The closest option is not automatically the best unless it is a proper emergency and you need to get on the ground asap.
 
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Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:24 am

waoz1 wrote:
An article in the West Australian today

Was talking about Perth - London

The WA and Tasmanian tourism councils are lobbying for direct Perth-Hobart flights to link in with London flights.

Rock Lobster industry are happy with the new flights as they are saying they can now enter the European market.... which was to do with the flight timings. They were saying having a flight leave at 7:30pm and arriving in London at 6am means they can have their produce in London restaurants for Lunch. Interesting

Last bit of the whole thing was the flight will be 17.5 hours plus or take Perth to London and 15 hours plus or take London to Perth.

Not sure what bits are true or not but thought it was interesting.


Interesting indeed, direct PER- HBA sounds like a good idea.

Here is a link to the article on the story though doesn't mention the HBA flight

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/wa-lobst ... b88331298z
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:16 am

An interesting report out of Deloitte Access Economics saying that in FY16 Qantas contributed $11.5b to Australia's economy or 0.7% of GDP.

https://www2.deloitte.com/au/en/pages/e ... e=lnkd.in#
 
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:27 am

qf789 wrote:
waoz1 wrote:
An article in the West Australian today

Was talking about Perth - London

The WA and Tasmanian tourism councils are lobbying for direct Perth-Hobart flights to link in with London flights.

Rock Lobster industry are happy with the new flights as they are saying they can now enter the European market.... which was to do with the flight timings. They were saying having a flight leave at 7:30pm and arriving in London at 6am means they can have their produce in London restaurants for Lunch. Interesting

Last bit of the whole thing was the flight will be 17.5 hours plus or take Perth to London and 15 hours plus or take London to Perth.

Not sure what bits are true or not but thought it was interesting.


Interesting indeed, direct PER- HBA sounds like a good idea.

Here is a link to the article on the story though doesn't mention the HBA flight

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/wa-lobst ... b88331298z


I really don't see PER-HBA happening, especially not on QF. QF don't even fly BNE-HBA for the majority of the year (and this offers connections to NRT, LAX, SIN, HKG, NOU etc, though these can also be routed through SYD/MEL).

Maybe a JQ service but even then, for the timings to work with the QF PER-LHR flights both legs are likely to be in daylight hours (i.e. when the aircraft could otherwise be flying shorter domestic legs). Routes like OOL-PER for JQ work because the aircraft would be sitting idle otherwise...
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:55 am

would love PER-HBA.. knock a few hours of getting to Tassie from WA.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:19 am

Hello QANTAS16,

QF could change their route network structure to funnel Tasmania origin customers flying to Europe through Perth instead of Melbourne or Sydney.

If there was a business case for doing this than we could simply see QF transfer capacity (flights) from Sydney/Melbourne to Perth.

You would have to think there was a fair amount of modelling behind the PER-LHR flights. I'd suggest the modeling included quote a few scenarios including changes to QF's route network structure that could have included direct HOB-PER flights.
 
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:42 am

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Hello QANTAS16,

QF could change their route network structure to funnel Tasmania origin customers flying to Europe through Perth instead of Melbourne or Sydney.

If there was a business case for doing this than we could simply see QF transfer capacity (flights) from Sydney/Melbourne to Perth.

You would have to think there was a fair amount of modelling behind the PER-LHR flights. I'd suggest the modeling included quote a few scenarios including changes to QF's route network structure that could have included direct HOB-PER flights.


Sure, but I think you are overestimating the feed generated by HBA to the UK, and more importantly the value of this feed. HBA is far from being the highest yielding destination for international business passengers, so I doubt the one-stop HBA-LHR market is high on QF list to chase. Given the likely flight times of the PER-LHR-PER flights, a connecting HBA-PER return service would use an aircraft during valuable daylight hours when it could be doing double that amount of flights elsewhere in the network.

Also, QF already funnel all their other international connections through SYD/MEL from HBA so why split the operation? It allows them to use the smaller 717's, offer high frequency and is serving a market (e.g. MEL/SYD to HBA or vice versa) that is much more popular than PER to HBA.

If the PER-LHR service needs the HBA feed to survive, then QF should quit before they launch. The route should (hopefully) survive off PER and WA O&D traffic, with some connecting traffic from ADL and some remaining from the east coast.

I love Tassie but its a leisure destination and, as I said previously, the only way we are likely to see PER-HBA is in JQ or TT colours.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:28 am

Hi Qantas16,

Not arguing with any of your points and on face value I agree with the majority of them.

I am simply suggesting there may be value in offering the Tasmanian market the option to one-stop through Perth to Europe instead of two stopping through Melbourne/Sydney and Dubai. If flight arrivals and departures in Perth were coordinated, Tasmanian passengers could see a significant reduction in flight times to head to the UK.

When we consider Tasmania a little Britain, such flights could be popular.

At the end of the day it will all depend upon the size of the potential market.
 
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:47 am

TT has had to cancel flights in the lead up to Christmas affecting around 4000 passengers due to TT's application to add a 4th 737-800 has not been approved by CASA in time. Cancelations include flights up to the 31st of December

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:43 am

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QF celebrates 1,000,000 737-800 scheduled flights

http://australianaviation.com.au/2016/1 ... 7-flights/


Great milestone. I remember when the first B737-800s came into service and the marketing campaign at the time that surrounded the arrival of (VH-VXB) Yananyi which arrived in Australia shortly after VH-VXA. Congratulations Qantas.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:48 am

No official sources but being reported by a user on another forum that SQ will add an additional SIN-MEL flight on the A333 on Mondays, Fridays and Saturdays

Starting 10/7/17
SQ247 SIN0200-MEL1125 SQ248 MEL1240 SIN 1830 Monday Friday Saturday. A330-300

Also reporting SQ making SQ265/266 (SIN-BNE) daily from 21/8/17
 
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Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:08 pm

Flights have already been loaded into GDS and are now bookable.
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Thanks for the conformation!
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:49 am

SQ expansion for NS17

As previously mentioned SQ will increase SIN-MEL from 28 weekly to 31 effective 17 JUL 17

SQ247 SIN0200 – 1125MEL 333 156
SQ248 MEL1240 – 1830SIN 333 156

SIN-BNE
SQ265/266, 3 weekly will change from A333 to 772 from 26 MAR 17
SQ265-266 will reduce to 1 weekly between 7 and 27 MAY 17
SQ265/266 to go daily from 22 AUG 17

SIN-SYD
26MAR17 – 01MAY17 Service operates 28 weekly, instead of 31. SQ251/252 temporary cancelled
04MAY17 – 31MAY17 SQ251/252 service operates with 777-200ER, instead of A330-300 (previously reported)
01JUN17 – 18JUN17 SQ251/252 increases from 3 to 5 weekly (Day x23 from SIN, Day x34 from SYD), overall increases to 33 weekly
19JUN17 – 29SEP17 SQ251/252 increases from 5 to 7 weekly, overall increases to 35 weekly
eff 30SEP17 SQ251/252 operates 5 weekly (overall 33 weekly)

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-in-ns17/
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:09 am

qf789 wrote:
SQ expansion for NS17

SIN-BNE
SQ265/266, 3 weekly will change from A333 to 772 from 26 MAR 17
SQ265-266 will reduce to 1 weekly between 7 and 27 MAY 17
SQ265/266 to go daily from 22 AUG 17


http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-in-ns17/


Strange that they make the only (sort of) day time flight both ways (SQ265/66) a 777-200 with the lie-flat product (IIRC?) ahead of the more popular 235/256 service...
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:24 am

Qantas16 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
SQ expansion for NS17

SIN-BNE
SQ265/266, 3 weekly will change from A333 to 772 from 26 MAR 17
SQ265-266 will reduce to 1 weekly between 7 and 27 MAY 17
SQ265/266 to go daily from 22 AUG 17


http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-in-ns17/


Strange that they make the only (sort of) day time flight both ways (SQ265/66) a 777-200 with the lie-flat product (IIRC?) ahead of the more popular 235/256 service...


Likely would be availability of aircraft. The A333 would not be available for daily flights from late August where the 77E would be.
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:21 am

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Re BNE:

The 77E is on that flight to offer the best business product for the times. It's supposedly going to be popular with business travelers. Flights 235 and 256 are the lowest yielding.
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:13 pm

Can anyone confirm this? Is it different to the issue at MEL a few weeks ago?

Airline secrets on facebook is reporting that there will be a shortage of fuel at MEL for a while as the pipeline to the airport is currently being repaired and all fuel is trucked in. Currently MEL goes through about 6.3 million litres a day and trucks can only bring in 2.2 million litres a day

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I noticed EY461 circling over Victoria last night. It looks like it returned to MEL. Anyone know why?
 
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I noticed EY461 circling over Victoria last night. It looks like it returned to MEL. Anyone know why?


No i don't know but it departed again around 4am.

Also Fiji Airways is launching a 2x weekly Nadi to Adelaide from 30 June 2017

https://twitter.com/FijiAirways/status/ ... 7480733696
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:54 pm

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VHOGU wrote:
I noticed EY461 circling over Victoria last night. It looks like it returned to MEL. Anyone know why?


No i don't know but it departed again around 4am.

Also Fiji Airways is launching a 2x weekly Nadi to Adelaide from 30 June 2017

https://twitter.com/FijiAirways/status/ ... 7480733696


Oh wow, that's interesting and exciting. I would have thought it was a long way for a 738? I wonder if the crew will return? Long day for them.

With all the new interest in CBR if we could see FJ back there too? Be good to see them build NAN into a nice little niche hub to the US.
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:56 pm

On the topic of SQ increasing SIN-OZ services I've noticed SQ241-SQ242 has been upgauged from a B772 to A380 equipment (unless this was one off). That's a total of 3 A380 service, SQ232,SQ222,SQ242.

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Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:10 am

It seems to be selected days, - it also operated as an A380 last Thursday - Yesterday and Today are the biggest travel days for the year so makes sense. Speaking of peak days, both QR and EY were/are fully booked in all classes from the 19th-23rd out and of Melbourne.
 
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Also Fiji Airways is launching a 2x weekly Nadi to Adelaide from 30 June 2017


I think that's an interesting and quite ballsy route. I hope it works for them.

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Fiji Airways is launching a 2x weekly Nadi to Adelaide from 30 June 2017


Flight times are pretty average with a red-eye ex ADL arriving into NAN at 0535 (0305 ADL time). You'd need a holiday after that especially as some hotels won't let you into your room until after midday or later!!!

Success will depend on pricing as it is a leisure route that will typically compared with DPS even though I think Fiji is a much more enjoyable than Bali. The biggest threat to FJ will be VA (or TT) jumping in on the route with much more family friendly daylight departures in both directions.
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:52 am

I believe FJ were also considering NTL and CBR- don't know if those are still on the radar.
 
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:18 am

Australian Financial Review reporting JP Morgan has assessed currently SYD-HKG is worst performing international route and SYD-PER worst performing domestic route.
SYD-HKG said to be driven by increased capacity driving down yields and SYD-PER still suffering from excess capacity.

http://www.afr.com/business/transport/a ... 221-gtfmtz (behind paywall)
 
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:07 am

Not surprising on the SYD-PER and SYD-HKG sectors.

ON HBA-PER, if the driver for it is freight, will the cargo be easy to transfer from a 738 to a 789? Based on the comments lobster cargo is also a significant part of it.
 
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:15 am

Seen a rumour or two

Perth - Shanghai
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:42 am

Any route that has significant capacity growth (HKG and SIN come to mind) or market downturns (PER) have their challenges. That is no surprise.

At the end of the day though, this analysis could be off the mark for all we know.

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Perth - Shanghai
China Eastern Late 2017


That wouldn't be a surprise.

PER really hasn't been a strong market though for CZ's CAN services. Very little growth has been achieved there but PVG should offer greater opportunities.
 
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Fiji Airways is launching a 2x weekly Nadi to Adelaide from 30 June 2017


Flight times are pretty average with a red-eye ex ADL arriving into NAN at 0535 (0305 ADL time). You'd need a holiday after that especially as some hotels won't let you into your room until after midday or later!!!

Success will depend on pricing as it is a leisure route that will typically compared with DPS even though I think Fiji is a much more enjoyable than Bali. The biggest threat to FJ will be VA (or TT) jumping in on the route with much more family friendly daylight departures in both directions.

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Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:23 am

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Australian Financial Review reporting JP Morgan has assessed currently SYD-HKG is worst performing international route and SYD-PER worst performing domestic route.
SYD-HKG said to be driven by increased capacity driving down yields and SYD-PER still suffering from excess capacity.

http://www.afr.com/business/transport/a ... 221-gtfmtz (behind paywall)


I can't access the article, but does it take into impact the broader network contribution each route makes? How many PER-SYD pax connect beyond SYD with VA QF and does that help the bottom line of other routes? Seems a strange thing to analyse
 
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:27 am

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I noticed EY461 circling over Victoria last night. It looks like it returned to MEL. Anyone know why?


No i don't know but it departed again around 4am.

Also Fiji Airways is launching a 2x weekly Nadi to Adelaide from 30 June 2017

https://twitter.com/FijiAirways/status/ ... 7480733696


Oh wow, that's interesting and exciting. I would have thought it was a long way for a 738? I wonder if the crew will return? Long day for them.

With all the new interest in CBR if we could see FJ back there too? Be good to see them build NAN into a nice little niche hub to the US.


I thought that too when I first saw the announcement but then I saw the schedule for ADL...problem is the flight times on this route are terrible for USA connections, you would have to wait all day in NAN before the connection to the US. After flying on a red eye ADL-NAN, then waiting all day for another red eye to the USA like NAN-LAX, that trip would well and truly wreck you!
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:35 am

747m8te wrote:
I thought that too when I first saw the announcement but then I saw the schedule for ADL...problem is the flight times on this route are terrible for USA connections, you would have to wait all day in NAN before the connection to the US. After flying on a red eye ADL-NAN, then waiting all day for another red eye to the USA like NAN-LAX, that trip would well and truly wreck you!


Oh. US connections didn't occur to me.

I thought it will be great for a winter getaway in the tropic sun for Adelaide folk. I thought that's why it's starting in mid-winter, to get the best loads and build the service.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:59 am

http://australianaviation.com.au/2016/1 ... -and-bali/

Qantas launching year round Bali service
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:13 am

smi0006 wrote:
LionelHutz wrote:
Australian Financial Review reporting JP Morgan has assessed currently SYD-HKG is worst performing international route and SYD-PER worst performing domestic route.
SYD-HKG said to be driven by increased capacity driving down yields and SYD-PER still suffering from excess capacity.

http://www.afr.com/business/transport/a ... 221-gtfmtz (behind paywall)


I can't access the article, but does it take into impact the broader network contribution each route makes? How many PER-SYD pax connect beyond SYD with VA QF and does that help the bottom line of other routes? Seems a strange thing to analyse


It's only a brief article and the report it references I can't find online, or after a brief look around the JPMorgan website.
Nothing is mentioned about network contributions or the exact methodology in the article. I'll keep my eye out to see if it is published to see how in-depth it actually goes.

qf2220 wrote:
Not surprising on the SYD-PER and SYD-HKG sectors.

IndianicWorld wrote:
Any route that has significant capacity growth (HKG and SIN come to mind) or market downturns (PER) have their challenges. That is no surprise.
At the end of the day though, this analysis could be off the mark for all we know.


Yes, not particularly surprising routes that may have yields under pressure.
It will be interesting to see if QF or VA down gauge any of their services out of PER from A332's to B738's, or whether they feel the worst is behind in the East-West market.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 148

Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:33 am

angusjt wrote:
http://australianaviation.com.au/2016/12/qantas-to-offer-year-round-nonstop-flights-between-sydney-and-bali/

Qantas launching year round Bali service


Such an interesting route! Must be a good and cheap way for QF to get people to burn points, like HNlL. Not a bad usage of a 738 if they have the capacity about. I wonder if we could see MEL-DPS seasonal.

Interesting QF and JQ can make it work, where as VA hand the route to TT. I'd much prefer a QF738 then a JQ on. The automated PA on VA annoyes the crap out of me lol!

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