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enilria wrote:*AA MIA-MID FEB 0.4>0 MAR 0.7>0 APR 0.7>0 MAY 0.7>0
enilria wrote:DL SLC-AUS APR 1.8>3 MAY 1.8>3
enilria wrote:
Big changes for MIA
AA MIA-ATL MAY 7>6 JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
AA MIA-CHS APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-CLE APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>3 AUG 1.7>3
AA MIA-CMH APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>4 AUG 1.7>3
AA MIA-CUN MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
AA MIA-DEN JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-DTW APR 1.9>3 MAY 1.8>3 JUN 1.9>3 JUL 1.9>3 AUG 1.8>3
AA MIA-EWR APR 4>3 MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AA MIA-EYW MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4 AUG 5>4
AA MIA-FDF APR 0.2>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.3>1.0 JUL 0.3>1.0 AUG 0.2>0.8
AA MIA-FPO APR 1.9>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
AA MIA-HPN APR 2>1.1 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
AA MIA-IAD APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-IND MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
*AA MIA-MSP APR 1.0>3 MAY 1.0>3 JUN 1.0>3 JUL 1.0>3 AUG 1.0>3
AA MIA-NAS APR 6>7
*AA MIA-PIT APR 2>4 MAY 2>4 JUN 2>4 JUL 2>4 AUG 2>4
*AA MIA-SAN APR 1.1>1.9 MAY 1.0>2.0 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
*AA MIA-SEA JUN 1.0>2.0 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>1.7
AA MIA-SFO MAY 4>3
AA MIA-STL APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-STT MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AA MIA-SXM AUG 1.8>2
AA MIA-TPA APR 5>6 MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
piedmontf284000 wrote:Me thinks that these gains for MIA will come from CLT losses
usflyer msp wrote:That is huge gain for MIA-MSP. It has never (except for one winter a few years ago) been more than 1x daily. I wonder if it is being downgraded to E75's to compensate?
ty97 wrote:When I first started reading the AA update, I thought this was going to be a lot of cuts, but your use of the word shuffle is right. There are lot of adds there, maybe even more than reductions. Very interesting changes in both directions.
ty97 wrote:enilria wrote:DL SLC-AUS APR 1.8>3 MAY 1.8>3
piedmontf284000 wrote:enilria wrote:
Big changes for MIA
AA MIA-ATL MAY 7>6 JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
AA MIA-CHS APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-CLE APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>3 AUG 1.7>3
AA MIA-CMH APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>4 AUG 1.7>3
AA MIA-CUN MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
AA MIA-DEN JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-DTW APR 1.9>3 MAY 1.8>3 JUN 1.9>3 JUL 1.9>3 AUG 1.8>3
AA MIA-EWR APR 4>3 MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AA MIA-EYW MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4 AUG 5>4
AA MIA-FDF APR 0.2>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.3>1.0 JUL 0.3>1.0 AUG 0.2>0.8
AA MIA-FPO APR 1.9>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
AA MIA-HPN APR 2>1.1 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
AA MIA-IAD APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-IND MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
*AA MIA-MSP APR 1.0>3 MAY 1.0>3 JUN 1.0>3 JUL 1.0>3 AUG 1.0>3
AA MIA-NAS APR 6>7
*AA MIA-PIT APR 2>4 MAY 2>4 JUN 2>4 JUL 2>4 AUG 2>4
*AA MIA-SAN APR 1.1>1.9 MAY 1.0>2.0 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
*AA MIA-SEA JUN 1.0>2.0 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>1.7
AA MIA-SFO MAY 4>3
AA MIA-STL APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-STT MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AA MIA-SXM AUG 1.8>2
AA MIA-TPA APR 5>6 MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
Me thinks that these gains for MIA will come from CLT losses
usflyer msp wrote:That is huge gain for MIA-MSP. It has never (except for one winter a few years ago) been more than 1x daily. I wonder if it is being downgraded to E75's to compensate?
Update: checking the schedule looks like I am right. Goes from 1x 738 to 3x YX-operated E75
enilria wrote:Big changes for MIA
AA MIA-ATL MAY 7>6 JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
AA MIA-CHS APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-CLE APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>3 AUG 1.7>3
AA MIA-CMH APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>4 AUG 1.7>3
AA MIA-CUN MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
AA MIA-DEN JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-DTW APR 1.9>3 MAY 1.8>3 JUN 1.9>3 JUL 1.9>3 AUG 1.8>3
AA MIA-EWR APR 4>3 MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AA MIA-EYW MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4 AUG 5>4
AA MIA-FDF APR 0.2>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.3>1.0 JUL 0.3>1.0 AUG 0.2>0.8
AA MIA-FPO APR 1.9>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
AA MIA-HPN APR 2>1.1 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
AA MIA-IAD APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-IND MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-LIR MAY 1.7>1.8 JUN 1.7>2 JUL 1.7>2 AUG 1.5>1.7
AA MIA-MCO MAY 8>7 JUN 8>7 JUL 8>7 AUG 8>7
*AA MIA-MID FEB 0.4>0 MAR 0.7>0 APR 0.7>0 MAY 0.7>0
*AA MIA-MSP APR 1.0>3 MAY 1.0>3 JUN 1.0>3 JUL 1.0>3 AUG 1.0>3
AA MIA-NAS APR 6>7
*AA MIA-PIT APR 2>4 MAY 2>4 JUN 2>4 JUL 2>4 AUG 2>4
AA MIA-SAL APR 1.9>1.1 MAY 1.7>1.0
*AA MIA-SAN APR 1.1>1.9 MAY 1.0>2.0 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
AA MIA-SAP AUG 1.8>1.7
*AA MIA-SEA JUN 1.0>2.0 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>1.7
AA MIA-SFO MAY 4>3
*AA MIA-SLC APR 1.0>0.1 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
AA MIA-STL APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-STT MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AA MIA-SXM AUG 1.8>2
AA MIA-TPA APR 5>6 MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
AA MIA-YUL APR 1.9>1.0 MAY 2>1.0
AA PHL-MIA MAY 7>6
B6 BOS-PBI APR 6>7
B6 BOS-PUJ APR 0.7>0.8
*B6 BOS-STI MAR 1.0>0.4 APR 1.0>0 MAY 0.8>0.5
B6 JFK-STI APR 4>3
B6 LAS-SFO MAR 2>1.0 APR 2>1.0
B6 LGB-SFO MAR 5>6 APR 5>6
jetbluefan1 wrote:B6 - Interesting to see the reductions in STI. B6 management recently indicated that the DR remains "highly profitable" but is still seeing weakness compared to prior years. The LAS-SFO drop to 1x in exchange for 6x to LGB is also very interesting. B6 must be trying to optimize its use of 2 gates at SFO...I wouldn't be surprised to see SFO-LAS completely eliminated sooner rather than later. Separately, it's interesting that B6 will have 14 flights a day from LGB to the Bay Area (SFO/OAK/SJC). That's pretty serious capacity.
wedgetail737 wrote:The SEA-MIA schedule sucks! AA needs an early morning flight to MIA to effectively connect to the plethora of available connections through MIA.
SFOtoORD wrote:
SFO-LAS has always felt like non-hub utilization flying and has to be tougher operationally if they have delays or max issues. SFO-LGB likely fits better operationally. I also continue to believe B6 has bigger plans for SFO long term if they can get more gates.
jetbluefan1 wrote:
As always, thanks for putting this together.
commavia wrote:Pretty significant - and in my view, broadly positive - changes for MIA. The switch of several routes from mainline to mostly- or all-175, at higher frequency, seems like a clear win for AA and passengers, with more schedule options and the ability to link more spokes to more connecting banks at MIA, all on what I consider a mainline if not better-than-mainline onboard product.
Cubsrule wrote:Hopefully it is also a(nother) sign that the YX staffing issues that had limited E-jet availability are resolved.
Cubsrule wrote:Hopefully it is also a(nother) sign that the YX staffing issues that had limited E-jet availability are resolved.
clrd4t8koff wrote:Looks like a filing mistake for VS. I just went through all of June, July & August and VS operates daily BOS-LHR.
seatback wrote:I wonder why CVG was left out of the midwest growth from MIA.
dc10lover wrote:What about B6 LGB - SMF?
enilria wrote:Cubsrule wrote:Hopefully it is also a(nother) sign that the YX staffing issues that had limited E-jet availability are resolved.
Is mainline maintaining overall you think?
Cubsrule wrote:enilria wrote:Cubsrule wrote:Hopefully it is also a(nother) sign that the YX staffing issues that had limited E-jet availability are resolved.
Is mainline maintaining overall you think?
I'm not sure. There had been some suggestion, albeit never confirmed officially AFAIK, that AA slowed down S80 retirements to cover some of YX's flying. It may be that resolution of the YX "squeeze" permits them to get back closer to the original retirement schedule.
enilria wrote:Cubsrule wrote:enilria wrote:Is mainline maintaining overall you think?
I'm not sure. There had been some suggestion, albeit never confirmed officially AFAIK, that AA slowed down S80 retirements to cover some of YX's flying. It may be that resolution of the YX "squeeze" permits them to get back closer to the original retirement schedule.
Seems like the mainline flying needs to reappear elsewhere, but its hard to see that sort of thing clearly in the changes.
globalcabotage wrote:The rush to Cuba from US carriers shows why the industry turns billionaires into millionaires. Jump on the bandwagon without any thought. This is one of many reasons I will never buy stock in an airline. The CEOs seem to be all A-net alum with the "GRB-BKK will print money mentality."
globalcabotage wrote:The rush to Cuba from US carriers shows why the industry turns billionaires into millionaires. Jump on the bandwagon without any thought. This is one of many reasons I will never buy stock in an airline. The CEOs seem to be all A-net alum with the "GRB-BKK will print money mentality."
cvgComair wrote:seatback wrote:I wonder why CVG was left out of the midwest growth from MIA.
Also, AA is the weakest carrier of the US3 at CVG, with DL retaining flights on nearly all AA's hubs in addition to AA not operating any mainline aircraft at CVG.
jetbluefan1 wrote:globalcabotage wrote:The rush to Cuba from US carriers shows why the industry turns billionaires into millionaires. Jump on the bandwagon without any thought. This is one of many reasons I will never buy stock in an airline. The CEOs seem to be all A-net alum with the "GRB-BKK will print money mentality."
I tend to agree to an extent. Hard to see how 3M thinks it can make money flying 19-seat planes at bare bone fares from FLL to Cuba against B6 mainline (or AA mainline from MIA), which have significantly lower CASM. I also still don't understand AS on LAX-HAV...there are very few nonstop flights from LA to the Caribbean, so it's hard for me to see how a market which has significant travel restrictions will be successful. Will a LAX-HAV nonstop command a significant enough premium over a LAX-ATL/IAH/FLL/MIA/MCO-HAV one-stop to make this worthwhile for AS? I guess we'll find out eventually.
That said, Cuba is unique. HAV has limited slots for US carriers and it was essentially a "once in a lifetime" grab, so it is somewhat justifiable that an airline would lose money in the short-medium term in the hope (projection?) that it will eventually pay off. I would be interested to see if - and who - eventually starts admitting defeat at HAV. No doubt the increasingly likely risk of an erratic Trump administration could have a serious effect on this market.
usflyer msp wrote:Do the E75's use a real gate in MIA or are they at D60? If it is D60, the MIA-MSP flights are now a no go for me. If refuse to subject myself to the hot mess called MIA D60 during a bank. To many flights boarding at one time leads to lots of confused passengers with limited english proficiency.
wedgetail737 wrote:The SEA-MIA schedule sucks! AA needs an early morning flight to MIA to effectively connect to the plethora of available connections through MIA.
hiflyeras wrote:If AS can no longer code-share with AA on this route (due to the DOJ ruling on the VX acquisition) then possibly they'll return to SEA-MIA?
piedmontf284000 wrote:enilria wrote:
Big changes for MIA
AA MIA-ATL MAY 7>6 JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
AA MIA-CHS APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-CLE APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>3 AUG 1.7>3
AA MIA-CMH APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3 JUN 1.7>3 JUL 1.7>4 AUG 1.7>3
AA MIA-CUN MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
AA MIA-DEN JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-DTW APR 1.9>3 MAY 1.8>3 JUN 1.9>3 JUL 1.9>3 AUG 1.8>3
AA MIA-EWR APR 4>3 MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AA MIA-EYW MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4 AUG 5>4
AA MIA-FDF APR 0.2>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.3>1.0 JUL 0.3>1.0 AUG 0.2>0.8
AA MIA-FPO APR 1.9>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
AA MIA-HPN APR 2>1.1 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
AA MIA-IAD APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-IND MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
*AA MIA-MSP APR 1.0>3 MAY 1.0>3 JUN 1.0>3 JUL 1.0>3 AUG 1.0>3
AA MIA-NAS APR 6>7
*AA MIA-PIT APR 2>4 MAY 2>4 JUN 2>4 JUL 2>4 AUG 2>4
*AA MIA-SAN APR 1.1>1.9 MAY 1.0>2.0 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
*AA MIA-SEA JUN 1.0>2.0 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>1.7
AA MIA-SFO MAY 4>3
AA MIA-STL APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
AA MIA-STT MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
AA MIA-SXM AUG 1.8>2
AA MIA-TPA APR 5>6 MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
Me thinks that these gains for MIA will come from CLT losses
seatback wrote:cvgComair wrote:seatback wrote:I wonder why CVG was left out of the midwest growth from MIA.
Also, AA is the weakest carrier of the US3 at CVG, with DL retaining flights on nearly all AA's hubs in addition to AA not operating any mainline aircraft at CVG.
I think AA has always been a number two at CVG behind Delta's operation.
phxtravelboy wrote:And STILL no MIA-MKE on AA. SMH. That is a perfect E175 market yet they REFUSE to add it.
AA's service to MKE is just pathetic; I sometimes wonder why they even bother flying there as it's treated like an after thought.
AA has the large operation at DCA flying to all sorts of cities, yet no MKE. I think I read that AA flies nonstop to 47 of the top 50 O/D cities from DCA. Of course MKE is 1 of the 3.
ORD and PHL are still only 50 seat RJs.
CLT is only RJs from MKE.
DFW still gets the old, tired MD80s on 3 of the 4 flights.
Come on AA show MKE some love already!
phxtravelboy wrote:Come on AA show MKE some love already!
ckfred wrote:Second, as AA adds E175s at MIA, where are they coming from? I've noticed routes out of ORD that used to have Republic E175s. Now, they have Envoy CRJ700s or SkyWest CRJ700s.
Varsity1 wrote:Any word on MQ gaining back an MIA base? I was under the impression that YX is a candidate to have it's flying pulled. The BK stunt didn't impress AA.
globalcabotage wrote:The rush to Cuba from US carriers shows why the industry turns billionaires into millionaires. Jump on the bandwagon without any thought. This is one of many reasons I will never buy stock in an airline. The CEOs seem to be all A-net alum with the "GRB-BKK will print money mentality."
miaskies wrote:Varsity1 wrote:Any word on MQ gaining back an MIA base? I was under the impression that YX is a candidate to have it's flying pulled. The BK stunt didn't impress AA.
I don't think YX is in line to have its flying pulled from AA, a couple of factors: AA just gave YX "American Shuttle" flying in November. It is currently flying 175's for both American Eagle and American Eagle. YX flies 88 E75's for AA, of which 38 will be reconfigured to the current 76 seating config from current 80 seaters; the first 9 refurbished birds are back in service with AA next month. If AA were to want cut YX flying Delta or United would JUMP at those 88 E175's; just like AA, all 3 legacy love that airplane.
That said ORD and DFW will be exclusive MQ 175 bases. So the YX birds that were based in ORD have now been sent to MIA, PHL, DCA, LGA for more additonal and new flying.
commavia wrote:phxtravelboy wrote:Come on AA show MKE some love already!
MKE is one of the markets that seems like an obvious candidate for transition to entirely or near-entirely mainline and 2-class RJs over the next few years as more 2-class RJs are delivered. Similar to other fairly large midwest markets like IND, CVG, PIT, CLE, CMH, SDF, GRR, etc. - I could easily see MKE going that direction. Given how short the stage length is, MKE-ORD is likely to always be just 50-seat, but for the longer routes like PHL and CLT, CR7/CR9 seems obvious. MKE, LGA, MIA ... maybe.
AA is inducting a significant number of new 2-class RJs each month, and this is setting off a chain reaction of schedule/route adjustments all across the network as these aircraft are placed across AA's hubs and steadily replace 44/50-seat RJs.