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Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:21 am

Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft? I counted it for Delhi-Mumbai route. It has 4xB787 ,2xB77W, 2xA333 and 2xB747 so total 10 widebody aircraft operating.
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:29 am

I think it's Taiwan Taiyuan- Hong kong - total 29 widebody routes everyday: http://uk.flightaware.com/live/findflig ... ation=VHHH
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:36 am

anshabhi wrote:
I think it's Taiwan Taiyuan- Hong kong - total 29 widebody routes everyday: http://uk.flightaware.com/live/findflig ... ation=VHHH


However this is not treated as a domestic route -- you go through passport control on each end of the trip.
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:36 am

HKG-TPE isnt really domestic. you have to go through immigration and customs on both ends of the route. In the US it might be something like LAX-HNL? or ITM-HND in Japan?
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:38 am

anshabhi wrote:
I think it's Taiwan Taiyuan- Hong kong


You'd have to be particularly well enamoured to the (mainland) Chinese political view, if you find that Taiwan and HK SAR is the same country!

My guess would be one of the domestic Japanese routes, or perhaps SYD-MEL?
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:43 am

HND - ITM. Of 30 flights, 29 are on Boeing widebodies.
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:45 am

Qantas operate up to 10x A330 weekdays SYD-MEL
But JAL operate 15x 767/777 weekdays TYO-OSA then you have to add any ANA operate too, so I would imagine this is your winner
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:45 am

anshabhi wrote:
I think it's Taiwan Taiyuan- Hong kong - total 29 widebody routes everyday: http://uk.flightaware.com/live/findflig ... ation=VHHH
Correction: I don't believe in one China policy. So, its not a domestic route!

blueflyer wrote:
HND - ITM. Of 30 flights, 29 are on Boeing widebodies.
That kills the competition! http://uk.flightaware.com/live/findflig ... ation=RJOO !!!
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:50 am

I'm sure SYD-MEL, PEK-CAN or LAX-HNL would be somewhere on the list
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:05 am

FUK/HND vv. (Number of seats per flight shown in brackets to show how much capacity there is on this route).
On NH 772 x 11 (405), 773 x 1 (514), 76P x 1 (270), 78P x 1 (335), 789 x 3 (395) 17 flights on widebodies (and extra 320 flights)
On JL 772 x 11 (375), 763 x 5 (252) 16 flights on widebodies (plus 73H).
33 widebody flights on this route daily.
Skymark no longer operates 330s on this route.
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:24 am

The question would depend on what you mean by most. Most wide bodies relative to total number of flights on a given lane or purely number of wide bodies on the lane.

If we look at number of widebody flights as percentage of total flights, HNL-To Anywhere would definitely take the cake. Number of wide bodies period would most likely be intra Japan, or intra India. Even SFO-ORD currently has 3x 777's on certain days.
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:37 am

Syd-per and Mel-per as a percentage nearly all widebody
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:55 am

redroo wrote:
Syd-per and Mel-per as a percentage nearly all widebody


Not really once you count Tiger and Jetstar on the A320. Also QF and VA now operating more 737's as traffic declines post mining boom
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:27 am

77H wrote:
The question would depend on what you mean by most. Most wide bodies relative to total number of flights on a given lane or purely number of wide bodies on the lane.

If we look at number of widebody flights as percentage of total flights, HNL-To Anywhere would definitely take the cake. Number of wide bodies period would most likely be intra Japan, or intra India. Even SFO-ORD currently has 3x 777's on certain days.


HNL-JFK, yes maybe. But that is similar to something like CDG-Reunion. But HNL-LAX/SFO and you look probably at 737/A320/757. Find an extremely long route which is "domestic" (France has a few) and they will be 100% wide body.

You need to look at absolute numbers. And Japan is probably the big one, but what about China?
727 732 733 734 735 73G 738 739/ER 742 743 744/M 752 753 762 772 77E 773 77W 788 A300 A310 A319 A320 A321 A332 A333 A343 A345 A346 A359 A35K A388 DC-9 DC-10 MD11 MD81 MD82 MD87 F70 ERJ145 E170 E175 E190 E195 ATR72 Q400 CRJ200 CRJ700 CRJ900 BAE146 RJ85
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:41 am

Domestic widebody flying in Australia isn't quite what it used to be now that the mining boom has slowed off and QF has retired the B763ER and shuffled the A330s around (including doing more international work with them).

SYD-MEL used to see a lot of service with the B763 and the A332, but it's a lot less nowadays. And as log0008 says, the overall "widebodiness" of the route is diluted significantly by QF and VA with the B738 and JQ and TT with the A320-series.
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:03 pm

If we go by percentage and say minimum of 10 frequencies, then HND-ITM would beat everybody since 29 of 30 are widebody at 97%. A single measly NH 738 is the smallest equipment dominated by 763s, 787s, & 777s.

As for sheer frequency, HND-CTS is up there with: NH-15; JL-14 & HD-8 for a total of 37.
However, some of mainland China run such as PEK-SHA could have more with MU, CA most likely offering hourly widebody flights and other carriers could be on the route as well.
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:38 pm

HND-CTS: around 38 daily widebody flights operated by JL 767/777, NH 777/767 and HD 763

HND-ITM: Around 30 daily widebody flights operated by JL 767/777 and NH 787/777.

PEK-SHA: Also around 30 daily widebody flights operated by MU 333/763, HU 333/787 and CA 787/744/777/333.

GMP-CJU: Around 12 daily widebody flights, operated by KE 333/744/773 and OZ 763.
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:26 pm

PER-SYD
(weekday)
QF 6 A332, 1 737
JQ 1 A320
VA 4 A332
TR 1 A320
= 10 wide and 3 narrowbodies = 77% during week day

(weekend)
Saturday is all narrowbody

Sunday is
QF 5 A332, 1 737
JQ 1 A320
VA 3 A332
TR 1 A320
= 8 wide and 3 narrow = 73%

Thats a pretty high percentage of wide body flights
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Air Canada has 17 dailies each way between Vancouver and Toronto in the summer and eight of them are widebodies (763, 788 789 772, 773)
A319 320 321 330 340 380 B707 727 737 747 757 767 777 787 BAe1-11 Trident 1, 2, 3B Viscount Lancaster VC10 HS748, ATP DHC-1, 3 Dash-8 Dash-400 Shorts 330 360 Embraer Banderiante Brasileria 175 190 BAe146 Saab 200 DC-3 -8 -9 -10 MD-11 ATR42-72
 
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Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:50 pm

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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:29 pm

SGN-HAN
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:30 pm

The Seoul-Jeju route has a ton of flights. KE does multiple on A330's/747's while Asiana does a bunch on 767's/A330's/747's. Not to mention a whole slew of narrowbodies
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:58 pm

XAM2175 wrote:
Domestic widebody flying in Australia isn't quite what it used to be now that the mining boom has slowed off and QF has retired the B763ER and shuffled the A330s around (including doing more international work with them).

SYD-MEL used to see a lot of service with the B763 and the A332, but it's a lot less nowadays. And as log0008 says, the overall "widebodiness" of the route is diluted significantly by QF and VA with the B738 and JQ and TT with the A320-series.


I do remember those days! QF branded the services on the Golden triangle, later encompassing CBR and PER as CityFlyer service. For SYD and MEL is was a 767 every 30mins in peak week day periods, sometime every 15 and hourly outside of the peak. Was fantastic to fly 767 in business between the two cities. QF have the world best domestic business class on a route of equivalent length. The crew are mature and polished and could conduct a two course service with several wine run on a 1hr10min flight with ease, never looking rushed it was entirely second nature to them. I miss the 767 in the Australian skies. 330s are always nice, but not as prolific as the 767 was.

I do think we will have to see 321/789 or more 330s between the two cities. As Melbournes air congestion gets worse, and SYDs slots dry up there is no opportunity for growth via frequency. Be interesting to review this thread in 5-10yrs
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:17 am

Jakarta - Denpasar?
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:27 am

Some of the French overseas departments and territories:

RUN - PAR (CDG or ORY): AF up to 2 77W daily, UU up to 2 77W daily, SS 1 744 or A332 daily, SE 1 A332 daily
DZA - ORY: UU 1 787 three times a week, SS 1 A332 weekly
PPT - CDG: AF 1 77E three times a week, TN 1 A343 daily ( not sure it can be counted as strictly domestic as it has a stopover in LAX with CPB passport check)
PTP - PAR (CDG or ORY): AF 2 77W daily, TX up to 3 A332 or 333 daily, SS up to 2 333-744 daily, XL 1 332-333 5 times a week (winter only)
FDF - PAR ( CDG or ORY): AF up to 2 77W daily, up to 3 A332 or 333 daily, SS up to 2 333-744 daily, XL 1 332-333 5 times a week (winter only)
CAY - ORY: AF 1 77E daily, TX 1 A333 4 times a week
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:07 pm

smi0006 wrote:
I do remember those days!


Funny to think it's just a few days now from two years since the 767s left, and to think of the routes on which they used them. I always tried for those services between MEL and SYD, and since they often showed on SYD-BNE I wasn't averse to flying MEL-SYD-BNE 767 all the way. Couple it with BNE-SYD on QF8... different times, eh?
 
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:28 pm

Interesting no US routes are currently listed though back in 1980/1990s there was a decent number of daily DC-10 flights on ORD-LAX.

Not sure about JFK/LGA to LAX or SFO but likely there were many wide-body flights.
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Re: Which domestic route around the world sees most wide body aircraft?

Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:47 pm

I recall flying a UA 747 JFK > LAS for CES (Consumer Electronics Show) one year. I could hardly forget it. We hit an air pocket over the Rockies and dropped so fast a drinks cart went airborne and landed on a flight attendant's leg, breaking it. IIRC, it was one of my last CES shows before I changed career, which would have made it 1983. CES is such a Big Deal that I suppose UA could have laid on a 747 for the show traffic.
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