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Turkish Aviation January 2017

Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:12 am

Hello Turkish Aviation fans,
We start yet another thread with terrible news from Istanbul, this is becoming more like the new normal unfortunately :(
RIP to all victims at Reina.
These are tough times for Turkey and Turkish Aviation. We can all hope for better days ahead.

Safe journeys and happy landings to all.
Please continue with your news, views, pictures, rumors.

Peace,
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Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:28 am

When opening a new thread please always provide a link to the previous thread.

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Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:39 am

Anyone have any idea why TC-JOM (A333) is very strictly allocated to the IST-LOS TK625/6 route? Is there something special about its seating configuration? If so, why does it only pop up on that route? The B739s TC-JYL/JYM/JYN/JYO/JYP with higher capacity are allocated to certain routes (eg. DUB) but they do crop up on different routes
 
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Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:56 am

SQ22 wrote:
When opening a new thread please always provide a link to the previous thread.

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I have been opening new threads for the past 10 years, this is first time I am being asked to provide a link to the older thread. The only reason I make sure I open new threads on the first of every month is that, anyone can go to the previous thread by searching the previous month and the year of "Turkish Aviation" threads. I am happy to provide a link but all Turkish Aviation fans knows this fact.
 
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Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:37 pm

AirbusA343 wrote:
Anyone have any idea why TC-JOM (A333) is very strictly allocated to the IST-LOS TK625/6 route? Is there something special about its seating configuration? If so, why does it only pop up on that route? The B739s TC-JYL/JYM/JYN/JYO/JYP with higher capacity are allocated to certain routes (eg. DUB) but they do crop up on different routes


Probably it's because LOS is a high density route for TK, which means the seating capacity of the 739s may not mostly be adequate. I remember, in the past, this route was mostly served by the 332s presently grounded for the Winter timetable. And, other than the very recently arrived TC-LOE (the first of the ex-Skymark birds), TC-JOM is the only frame in TK's 333 fleet hat doesn't have any cockpit/cabin crew rest facilities. So TK may be preferring to utilise all other 333s in other routes and has allocated this particular frame to the IST-LOS route for the present time...
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:15 pm

Time is flying. Many years back I thought TK would be ordering the 787. Now that Boeing delivered 500th 787, I come to realize my username will never be a reality. I could only hope to see 350/777X in the next decade.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:51 pm

Here is what TK management predicted on Jan 2016, for the end of year:
-240 single aisle, 87 twin aisle, 12 Cargo planes for a total of 339 frames.
-Total pax of 72.4 Million
-31% capacity increase to the Americas.
 
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TK787 wrote:
Here is what TK management predicted on Jan 2016, for the end of year:
-240 single aisle, 87 twin aisle, 12 Cargo planes for a total of 339 frames.
-Total pax of 72.4 Million
-31% capacity increase to the Americas.


What is the reality? The political/terrorist issues surely had some impact.
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:20 am

Having flown with TK long haul in 2015 and 2016, I can only wish them the best for 2017. Of course definitely would actually love to go to Istanbul someday. Once again all the best Turkish Airlines. Hope the situation in Turkey improves.
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:29 am

Hearing news that the contracts of the "Flying Chefs" for TK (employed by Do & Co) have totally been terminated as of the end. 2016.
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:44 am

Hi all, I have been lurking at Turkish Aviation threads for long time. This is my first post here. I wish all the best to our fellow Turkish compatriots in the new year. May sense prevails soon and everyone can live in peace.

Back to aircraft, Malaysia Airlines is looking for extra A333 with PW engines. They could not find any in the market. Unfortunately, TK is offloading A332 and they do not have PW powered A333.
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:45 am

mafaky wrote:
Hearing news that the contracts of the "Flying Chefs" for TK (employed by Do & Co) have totally been terminated as of the end. 2016.

Hi mafaky, do you have a source for this? What does this mean for business class pax?
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:50 am

Any developments on the TRJ328 and/or TRP328? Will the FAL in Ankara use the runway at ESB? TIA.
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:51 am

Flanders wrote:
mafaky wrote:
Hearing news that the contracts of the "Flying Chefs" for TK (employed by Do & Co) have totally been terminated as of the end. 2016.

Hi mafaky, do you have a source for this? What does this mean for business class pax?


Presently, the only source of information is the following link (regretfully it's available only in Turkish):

http://www.airlinehaber.com/thyde-irtifa-kaybi/

This is not a website providing "news based on rumors or wishful thinking!". I know the editor-in-chief, personally. He's an ex-TK employee and has also taken part on the Union's side, etc.

Meaning for business class pax: from now onwards, they will be served by male & female flight attendants in the usual TK flight uniforms. No more of the "chef-looking types" in the cabin. BTW, these "flying chefs" were totally employed by Do & Co, the catering company who's in 50%-50% JV with TK.
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:30 am

However, just a few minutes ago, I read another news that "Flying Chefs" in ER/Long Haul overseas flights (to Americas and Asia) are presently still to be employed!.. The ones that have been laid off are those flying to medium hall routes (e.g. to Europe & Africa). Can't really tell what's the reality is or will be... :alert: :?:
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:43 am

Unfortunately there is yet another frequency reduction from TK... the Istanbul - Mauritius - Antananarivo route will operate 3 times a week rather than 5 from 18 April to 15 July with an A333. Sad to see further reductions. Sadder to hear what's happening in Istanbul, it's a gorgeous city, I love being on TK1975 and while landing seeing the low sunlight reflecting on the stunning buildings!
Any ideas why TK680 had such a severe delay yesterday (5.5 hours)? A ton of flights yesterday were delayed but this one stood out in particular. Also does anyone know why TK688 diverted to AYT, I assume something medical?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:25 pm

Happy new year to all and thanks to TK787 for another thread.

Below you can find the project drawing of the 3rd runway of ESB.

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This gives a better idea for the position of the 3rd runway and its taxi way.

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Now 3rd runway's taxi way is under construct at full speed and possibly it will finish in 2017. This taxi way can also be used as emergency landing runway with full runway specs. Then the construction of the 3rd runway will begin once the taxi way is finished.

The distance between 3rd runway and current runway is around 1500m allowing independent parallel operation of runways.
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:49 pm

DFW789ER wrote:
TK787 wrote:
Here is what TK management predicted on Jan 2016, for the end of year:
-240 single aisle, 87 twin aisle, 12 Cargo planes for a total of 339 frames.
-Total pax of 72.4 Million
-31% capacity increase to the Americas.


What is the reality? The political/terrorist issues surely had some impact.


-I am sure some other members can be more specific about the fleet size, but number of frames is pretty close but 30+planes are stored for the winter.
-The pax number is close to 62Million.
-Even though routes opened to Panama, Caracas, Havana, Atlanta and such, I am not sure if this is a 31% increase or not
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:00 pm

Flanders wrote:
mafaky wrote:
Hearing news that the contracts of the "Flying Chefs" for TK (employed by Do & Co) have totally been terminated as of the end. 2016.

Hi mafaky, do you have a source for this? What does this mean for business class pax?

I've also read this at airporthaber.com that, 12 ER destinations will still keep the Flying Chefs, no more chefs on European/African flights.
 
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TK105 wrote:
Happy new year to all and thanks to TK787 for another thread.

Below you can find the project drawing of the 3rd runway of ESB.

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This gives a better idea for the position of the 3rd runway and its taxi way.

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Now 3rd runway's taxi way is under construct at full speed and possibly it will finish in 2017. This taxi way can also be used as emergency landing runway with full runway specs. Then the construction of the 3rd runway will begin once the taxi way is finished.

The distance between 3rd runway and current runway is around 1500m allowing independent parallel operation of runways.



Is there any need for an extra runway in ESB? I know SAW is desperate for one but I cant see the point of this!
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:33 pm

TK787 wrote:
I've also read this at airporthaber.com that, 12 ER destinations will still keep the Flying Chefs, no more chefs on European/African flights.

Thank you both Mafaky and TK787 for the info, it's greatly appreciated.
I guess we'll have to wait and see what 12 destinations are considered "ER".
 
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Flanders wrote:
TK787 wrote:
I've also read this at airporthaber.com that, 12 ER destinations will still keep the Flying Chefs, no more chefs on European/African flights.

Thank you both Mafaky and TK787 for the info, it's greatly appreciated.
I guess we'll have to wait and see what 12 destinations are considered "ER".


...and whether this is 12 destinations or 12 flights, as many of the longer flights are 2 destinations combined ( tag-on or triangle flights), such as EZE-GRU, BOG-PTY, HAV-CCS... If it's 12 destinations, you have half of them right there...
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:47 pm

H A P P Y 2 0 1 7 Everyone.

TK105 wrote:
Now 3rd runway's taxi way is under construct at full speed and possibly it will finish in 2017.


Are they really working on project currently??
Its been stuck due to legal objections. They first launched project in 2011 and had to stop.

bjorn14 wrote:
Any developments on the TRJ328 and/or TRP328? Will the FAL in Ankara use the runway at ESB? TIA.


Turkish Aircraft Industries main FAL is not based at ESB, but at one of the other Ankara airports - Akinci/Murted Air base.
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:56 pm

TK787 wrote:
Flanders wrote:
mafaky wrote:
Hearing news that the contracts of the "Flying Chefs" for TK (employed by Do & Co) have totally been terminated as of the end. 2016.

Hi mafaky, do you have a source for this? What does this mean for business class pax?

I've also read this at airporthaber.com that, 12 ER destinations will still keep the Flying Chefs, no more chefs on European/African flights.

I am sorry guys, I have to correct. I meant to say TK will continue to keep flying chefs in all ER flights and 12 Prestige destinations TBD ( most likely Dublin, Gatwick, Heathrow, Dubai, Kuwait, Riyadh, Munich, Frankfurt, Rome, Barcelona, Paris, Madrid). Not sure why Telaviv, Moscow not there. This is going to be really bad for the overall morale onboard crew. Last 77W flight I was on, IST-JFK, had only 11 total FAs (used to be 16). With all this crew cutbacks I have a feeling TK has to lower its on board service standards, because the FA's look like chickens running around with their heads cut-off trying to keep up and not getting enough breaks at crew rest areas.
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:15 pm

DFW789ER wrote:
TK787 wrote:
Here is what TK management predicted on Jan 2016, for the end of year:
-240 single aisle, 87 twin aisle, 12 Cargo planes for a total of 339 frames.
-Total pax of 72.4 Million
-31% capacity increase to the Americas.


What is the reality? The political/terrorist issues surely had some impact.


233 single aisle, 87 twin aisle, 13 cargo planes
Pax nearly 62m
Capacity increase by Nov to North America was 29%, Middle and South %3.
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:22 pm

Yakamoz wrote:
DFW789ER wrote:
TK787 wrote:
Here is what TK management predicted on Jan 2016, for the end of year:
-240 single aisle, 87 twin aisle, 12 Cargo planes for a total of 339 frames.
-Total pax of 72.4 Million
-31% capacity increase to the Americas.


What is the reality? The political/terrorist issues surely had some impact.


233 single aisle, 87 twin aisle, 13 cargo planes
Pax nearly 62m
Capacity increase by Nov to North America was 29%, Middle and South %3.


Thanks for these numbers. Given there have been terrorist activities in several parts of Turkey, hope is that it doesn't have more adverse effect on TK.
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:51 pm

Istanbul is a very beautiful city but I dont think I will visit it anytime soon, probably many others think like me and that caused a reduction in pax numbers. BTW, do you think TK have considered adding KRK and GLA?
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:17 am

.[/quote]
Turkish Aircraft Industries main FAL is not based at ESB, but at one of the other Ankara airports - Akinci/Murted Air base.[/quote]

Good to know

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Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:47 am

ahmetdouas wrote:
Is there any need for an extra runway in ESB? I know SAW is desperate for one but I cant see the point of this!

ESB is steadily growing since 2000 and doubling passenger numbers every 6-7 years. By the end of 2016, we expect total passenger number to be around 13M. By mid 2020s, ESB can reach a total passenger number around 25M which will need a dual runway operation. So I think this is a timely investment for future.


LAXintl wrote:
Are they really working on project currently??
Its been stuck due to legal objections. They first launched project in 2011 and had to stop.

Yes, it goes on a tremendous speed lately. I suppose legal issues has been solved and contract is on course now. I'll try to take pictures next time I have a flight.


bjorn14 wrote:
Any developments on the TRJ328 and/or TRP328? Will the FAL in Ankara use the runway at ESB? TIA.

It is not yet clear. They say that it will on the east side of ESB (where there are other military industries such as Aselsan, Mikes, etc), so it may be next to new runway of ESB.


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Turkish Aircraft Industries main FAL is not based at ESB, but at one of the other Ankara airports - Akinci/Murted Air base.

TRJET and TAI are two different organisations. For the moment it is said that TRJET will be located to ESB. But "This is Turkey" and you never know, one day they may receive a "call" to move TRJET operations to TAI.

But if you ask me, ESB is a prefect location for TRJET FAL as they will probably need a much bigger logistical operation in comparison to TAI where you always need special permissions to use Akinci/Murted Air Base for such logistical operations.
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:00 pm

Happy New Year all. Sad start to 2017 but its a fact of life and sadly we can expect more.

usflyer123 wrote:
Istanbul is a very beautiful city but I dont think I will visit it anytime soon, probably many others think like me and that caused a reduction in pax numbers. BTW, do you think TK have considered adding KRK and GLA?


It is a very individual decision and eitherway I can understand. I know the city well and have been visiting many years. A few weeks back I did contemplate giving it a miss and some family were not keen to see me go but in the end I decided to go for a much shorter period. Most people do travel without incident.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:20 pm

TK to add a 3rd weekly rotation on the IST-AWZ route... an extremely slight relief I suppose. Can't be bothered to type the schedule so here's a link...
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/270671/turkish-airlines-increases-ahvaz-service-in-s17/
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:05 pm

After a long time TK crews will be staying in Manhattan at the ROW NYC hotel near Times Square. I think this will improve the morale, they don't have to travel to the city from Long Island during those short stays.
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:22 pm

Any update on the new Istanbul Airport ? Still to open at the end of this year 2017 ?

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Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:48 am

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Any update on the new Istanbul Airport ? Still to open at the end of this year 2017 ?

The777Man

Schedule is February 2018:

http://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2 ... omination/

Note: Just my opinion, but from the photos I've seen of the terminal, I see more than a year of work head. Please tell me I missed some accelerated approach.

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Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:02 am

lightsaber wrote:
The777Man wrote:
Any update on the new Istanbul Airport ? Still to open at the end of this year 2017 ?

The777Man

Schedule is February 2018:

http://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2 ... omination/

Note: Just my opinion, but from the photos I've seen of the terminal, I see more than a year of work head. Please tell me I missed some accelerated approach.

Lightsaber


And you would be right. The construction of the structures alone might not be done before summer. We still have installation of technical infrastructure, runways, taxiways, aprons, support buildings to be built, detailed works, tests, etc. Next to impossible to finish in 1 year. But of course somebody's birthday is in February and they want to "open" it that day. I doubt we will see any scheduled service there next year.
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:53 am

The officially announced opening date is 26th February, 2018. It is going to be on that particular day, not a day earlier or later!... Bcz. that date is the birthday of "the person whose name I don't wish to pronounce"!!! :cry: :(

Your observations are pretty realistic. There will be a dummy opening with a huuuge ceremony (and waste of money!...) but the Airport will not be declared operational or fully operational following his opening. That "big bang" operation that the IGA CEO is mentioning may take place but certainly not immediately before Feb. 26th, 2018. It is going to happen some time between the beginning to mid 2019. Or, otherwise, there will be a slow, day by day transition (not for the fights), for shifting and re-locating some equipment.

Whatever, that is being said in these days are subject to major revisions in the future. We will all see the real situation by October-November 2017 in a more realistic picture!... But it will be highly unrealistic if all passenger fights from IST (the current Ataturk International Airport) will terminate on 26th evening and all flights will resume from the New Airport on 27th morning.

That CEO and others at IGA have been talking more likely like politicians since some time! :headache:

As a very simple example take a look at the first Metro Line that will connect the New Airport to the City. Politicians are still uttering speeches that it will be ready for the opening. The tender has very recently finalised, the site/land allocation is still pending and the term of the contract is 1000 days (practically 3 years). So which side should we believe??? :goodvibes:

Most likely, following this purely dummy opening, say 3-4 months later some charter traffic may be expected for the 2018 summer season (but Istanbul's charter traffic is pretty low compared to AYT, ADB, etc.) but full scheduled operations are expected to commence for the S19 timetable... :idea: :airplane: (Maybe they can push some overseas airlines with minimal or no connection traffic, to start using the New Airport before THY and other Star Alliance Members do.... Never say "never" in Turkey!...)
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Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:35 pm

Talking about home airports, JFK just announced a $10B upgrade, taking it from 60M pax to 75Mpax by 2030. Improved roadways/terminals/security, expansion of Airtrain, connected terminals and listen to this... for artwork along the road to the airport. I hope I see it.
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:29 pm

I've been wondering for quite some time now why on certain airports (e.g. DIY, NKT, YKO and basically any airport in the East and South-East) the tracking on Flightradar24 suddenly stops before landing and starts a fair distance away from the airport after takeoff respectively.
Is it to avoid to show the exact patterns aircraft usually take on landing/take off to/from airport XY so it would be more difficult to plan to shoot them down? I know it sounds somewhat drastic but unfortunately it's not too far fetched to think of such a scenario, especially after what had happened at SAW and repeated therats from terrorist groups to Turkish civil aviation. Why wouldn't the same apply to all the other airports in Turkey, esp. IST, SAW, ADB, AYT and ESB? Or am I completely wrong on this one and it's just because of some technical issue? I've seen it in other parts of the world as well, mostly in troubled regions.
 
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THY748i wrote:
I've been wondering for quite some time now why on certain airports (e.g. DIY, NKT, YKO and basically any airport in the East and South-East) the tracking on Flightradar24 suddenly stops before landing and starts a fair distance away from the airport after takeoff respectively.
Why wouldn't the same apply to all the other airports in Turkey, esp. IST, SAW, ADB, AYT and ESB?


As being one of the feeders of ESB region for FR24, the answer is easy actually: ADS-B receivers has a certain range (around 150nm depending on your antenna and hardware) and need LoS (Line of Sight) as the communication frequency is around 1GHz. There are not many ADS-B receivers in the east of TR close to airports. These receivers can only receive ADS-B signal when the planes have enough altitude that will provide LoS. So during take off and landing, feeder receivers can not get signal from planes. There is no other reason...
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Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:53 pm

TK105 wrote:
THY748i wrote:
I've been wondering for quite some time now why on certain airports (e.g. DIY, NKT, YKO and basically any airport in the East and South-East) the tracking on Flightradar24 suddenly stops before landing and starts a fair distance away from the airport after takeoff respectively.
Why wouldn't the same apply to all the other airports in Turkey, esp. IST, SAW, ADB, AYT and ESB?


As being one of the feeders of ESB region for FR24, the answer is easy actually: ADS-B receivers has a certain range (around 150nm depending on your antenna and hardware) and need LoS (Line of Sight) as the communication frequency is around 1GHz. There are not many ADS-B receivers in the east of TR close to airports. These receivers can only receive ADS-B signal when the planes have enough altitude that will provide LoS. So during take off and landing, feeder receivers can not get signal from planes. There is no other reason...


Thank you for your explanation. I feel silly having even asked this question now. I'm not familiar with a lot of the technical aspects of aviation, just a guy who really loves planes ^^. I guess you learn something new every day.
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:24 pm

Latest pictures from the new Istanbul airport:
http://www.kokpit.aero/3-havalimani-son ... -ocak-2017
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:37 pm

TK sent 77W to JNB/DUR yesterday (5th) instead of usual A333...would that be for additional capacity as usually needed this time of year...is it possible for more?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:18 pm

According to FlightAware, these TK flights to the BeNeLux show as cancelled for tomorrow 07/01:
TK 1957 IST BRU A321
TK 1951 IST AMS A321
Anyone know why?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:41 pm

Flanders wrote:
Anyone know why?

Weather. There are many flights cancelled.
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:41 pm

Flanders wrote:
According to FlightAware, these TK flights to the BeNeLux show as cancelled for tomorrow 07/01:
TK 1957 IST BRU A321
TK 1951 IST AMS A321
Anyone know why?



Cancelled flights due to expected weather conditions in Istanbul

Dear Passengers,

Due to the expected weather conditions in Istanbul, we kindly request you to check the latest status of your flights date.

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-ie/co ... tanbul-852
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:31 pm

Why is this always the same? It is snowing in IST and planes are circling. Why do they let a domestic flights bound for IST take off at origin knowing that they will all divert???? :(
LTBA 061533Z 0615/0718 35025G35KT 2000 SHSN BKN010 BKN025 TEMPO 0615/0619 0800 +SHSN BKN007 BKN022
Winds 25kt gusting to 35, snow showers, broken clouds at 700 feet and 2200feet, visibility 800m.

SAW seems to be doing better. From what I can see there will be many diverts, like Beirut-IST TK825, after making 8-10 circles over Istanbul now heading to Ankara.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:37 pm

I am watching flight radar and listening to the ATC, weather insane in Istanbul it seems pretty much all the planes are diverting to Antalya!
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:44 pm

ahmetdouas wrote:
I am watching flight radar and listening to the ATC, weather insane in Istanbul it seems pretty much all the planes are diverting to Antalya!


The Dep and Arr boards are a mess too. I have been at IST during snow and many flights were cancelled or 8-9 hour delays and the Airport and THY lounge were covered with people sleeping on the floors. Not a nice time to be there right now and good luck to anyone trying to deal with the ''helpful'' ground staff !
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:19 pm

Plenty of diversions to Ankara and Antalya due to snow I assume. Wish Istanbul shares some snow with Dublin!
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation January 2017

Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:54 am

Looks like the airport is closed till the morning. I see some FarEast flights are being diverted. SGN-IST to Adana as of now, let's see where the other end up.

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