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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:22 pm

Yes, that makes sense. That would eliminate F systemwide and forward/back facing Business seats.

In my opinion the most dire change is with the 763 3 class fleet. Those premium heavy aircraft actually have fewer total seats than the sCO 762s, which were grounded due to inefficiency. I would like to see conversions to Polaris in this order:
#1.) 763 3 class - A.) low seat counts, B.) forward/back facing Business seats, C.) F class being eliminated systemwide)
#2.) 772 sUA - A.) forward/back facing Business seats B.) F class being eliminated systemwide)

Then its a tossup. In my opinion, should proceed with which can be converted quickest. There may be more work to convert one fleet over others.The 763 may be the easiest to complete as there are no galleys/lavs behind the front cabin.
763 2 class (2 of 5, 40% can be trapped in sCO style window Business seats)
764 (2 of 5, 40% can be trapped in sCO style window Business seats)
772 sCO (2 of 6, 33% can be trapped in xCO style Business seats)
788/9 (2 of 6, 33% can be trapped in sCO style Business seats)
752??
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:45 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Yes, that makes sense. That would eliminate F systemwide and forward/back facing Business seats.

In my opinion the most dire change is with the 763 3 class fleet. Those premium heavy aircraft actually have fewer total seats than the sCO 762s, which were grounded due to inefficiency. I would like to see conversions to Polaris in this order:
#1.) 763 3 class - A.) low seat counts, B.) forward/back facing Business seats, C.) F class being eliminated systemwide)
#2.) 772 sUA - A.) forward/back facing Business seats B.) F class being eliminated systemwide)

Then its a tossup. In my opinion, should proceed with which can be converted quickest. There may be more work to convert one fleet over others.The 763 may be the easiest to complete as there are no galleys/lavs behind the front cabin.
763 2 class (2 of 5, 40% can be trapped in sCO style window Business seats)
764 (2 of 5, 40% can be trapped in sCO style window Business seats)
772 sCO (2 of 6, 33% can be trapped in xCO style Business seats)
788/9 (2 of 6, 33% can be trapped in sCO style Business seats)
752??

I think the 2 Class 763's and sCO 777's should be next, for consistency sake, though I don't want to see more 777 move to 10 across in Y. I know UA has enough 777's to justify different arrangements, but it is annoying that your seat chart can get messed up the day of the flight from config changes, and it has been going on for more than a decade, essentially non stop. I have personally had some big headaches from 777's changing after check in, seat assignments getting screwed up by computers, and even my wife and I on the same reservation getting separated. That's just stupid.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:26 pm

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Here is a neat progress tracker, along with start dates for the different types of a/c.

http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-tr ... e=20170621

States 763 Fall 2017 and 777 winter 2017. So, either the HKG 763's are not in for Polaris or it's going to take another 3 months until fall.


That's about right for a major interior mod. Installation, STC application, testing, approval and ironing out inevitable technical issues will take at least that long. The 777 timetable makes sense if the first one is to go in for mod after the summer schedule.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:52 am

The 3-class 763s have already started Mod and will enter service in the fall. The next fleet for Polaris seats will be the sUA 3-class 772s, followed by sCO 2-class 772s. As far as I know the 2-class 763s are not scheduled for Polaris mod at all. After the 3-class 763 and 772 are completed the next would either be 764 or 789/8. The 752s will not get Polaris seats.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:49 am

Thanks so much! That is very clear! I guess it seems right that after the big push for the 77W that the seat manufacturer has a bit more time in between because of mod scheduling. It does make more sense that the 3 class 772's are a priority...but perhaps there is a reason for this? I'm going to be on one soon. It's not my first time being on a 3 class 772, where I buy J and try and use a GPU to upgrade, but UA won't allow it even though the F cabins are empty! Sure, I know they prefer to sell them, but I'd figure if they are entirely empty one must be upgrade inventory?
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:50 am

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The 752s will not get Polaris seats.


That's fine, but the cabins need a major refurbishment;

more modern seat coverings, carpeting, paneling and led lighting.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:58 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
N644UA and N660UA are in HKG and expected to be the first receiving Polaris as part of the 2 class conversion.

There are 12 more 3 class 763s that should follow, but unclear at what pace.

There are 21 763s already in 2 class configuration with sCO lie-flat style seats up front. I have no idea what is next, but one would expect these to get Polaris after the former 3 class conversions are complete, but I have no information. (Same would apply to 764 fleet of 16 units).
Again, no idea, but If Polaris seats come faster than 2 class conversions proceed, maybe current 2 class 763s or 764s would start getting Polaris and may depend on how much work is necessary to replace sCO seats with Polaris - some modifications in Y may be needed. One would also expect 3 class UA 772s would get Polaris prior to sCO 772s.


Do you think that they'll eventually put the "Domestic" non 77A models (ie the ones w/range for it) on IAD and EWR-HNL or will those routes actually see Polaris seats once the 763/764 mods are done?
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:06 pm

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calpsafltskeds wrote:
N644UA and N660UA are in HKG and expected to be the first receiving Polaris as part of the 2 class conversion.

There are 12 more 3 class 763s that should follow, but unclear at what pace.

There are 21 763s already in 2 class configuration with sCO lie-flat style seats up front. I have no idea what is next, but one would expect these to get Polaris after the former 3 class conversions are complete, but I have no information. (Same would apply to 764 fleet of 16 units).
Again, no idea, but If Polaris seats come faster than 2 class conversions proceed, maybe current 2 class 763s or 764s would start getting Polaris and may depend on how much work is necessary to replace sCO seats with Polaris - some modifications in Y may be needed. One would also expect 3 class UA 772s would get Polaris prior to sCO 772s.


Do you think that they'll eventually put the "Domestic" non 77A models (ie the ones w/range for it) on IAD and EWR-HNL or will those routes actually see Polaris seats once the 763/764 mods are done?



No all of the "domestic" 777s are the 77A model so EWR/IAD-HNL will continue to see the 764 & 763.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:15 pm

fun2fly wrote:
Here is a neat progress tracker, along with start dates for the different types of a/c.

States 763 Fall 2017 and 777 winter 2017. So, either the HKG 763's are not in for Polaris or it's going to take another 3 months until fall.


It may be that the first 763s will start flying with Polaris in the fall, which would necessitate them going in for mods a few months before that, presumably.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:15 pm

FBWFTW wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
N644UA and N660UA are in HKG and expected to be the first receiving Polaris as part of the 2 class conversion.

There are 12 more 3 class 763s that should follow, but unclear at what pace.

There are 21 763s already in 2 class configuration with sCO lie-flat style seats up front. I have no idea what is next, but one would expect these to get Polaris after the former 3 class conversions are complete, but I have no information. (Same would apply to 764 fleet of 16 units).
Again, no idea, but If Polaris seats come faster than 2 class conversions proceed, maybe current 2 class 763s or 764s would start getting Polaris and may depend on how much work is necessary to replace sCO seats with Polaris - some modifications in Y may be needed. One would also expect 3 class UA 772s would get Polaris prior to sCO 772s.


Do you think that they'll eventually put the "Domestic" non 77A models (ie the ones w/range for it) on IAD and EWR-HNL or will those routes actually see Polaris seats once the 763/764 mods are done?


I believe 77G would be significantly weight restricted on EWR/IAD-HNL with that configuration.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:49 pm

77W:
N2644U had C1 flight yesterday
N2341U had FCF flight yesterday

Apparently ORD-HNL is the longest route for the 772A. IAD/EWR-HNL are 500-650 nm longer. Polaris will not be added on the domestic aircraft as the front cabin is so small and Polaris, an international product, would reduce seat count even further.

PDE is available in addition to AVOD on the below international aircraft:
752: All 41 sCO International 752s
763: 3 class: PDE (AVOD in Premium classes/Personal TV in E+/Y)
763: 2 class: N652/653/657/658/661/662/663/669/671/677UA
764: Fleet numbers 3057/3058/3060/3065
772: sCO: Fleet numbers 3006-3007/3009/3011-3015/3017-3018
772: sUA: ER units All except N227UA
77W: All
788/9: All

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:06 pm

The last 5 of the 777-300 are all ready for Delivery.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:47 pm

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The last 5 of the 777-300 are all ready for Delivery.

But are they all Polaris-sized ? I'd wager $1.00 that 41U flys down the 5 today...
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:13 pm

springtx wrote:
The last 5 of the 777-300 are all ready for Delivery.
iahcsr wrote:
springtx wrote:
The last 5 of the 777-300 are all ready for Delivery.

But are they all Polaris-sized ? I'd wager $1.00 that 41U flys down the 5 today...


You are right . 41U is at the EDC and will fly to SEA later today .
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:18 pm

fun2fly wrote:
Here is a neat progress tracker, along with start dates for the different types of a/c.

I'd not seen a public timeline before. Thanks for that!

Presumably the first aircraft of each fleet type has some time built into its schedule for making FA documentation and promotional materials.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:25 pm

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FBWFTW wrote:
Do you think that they'll eventually put the "Domestic" non 77A models (ie the ones w/range for it) on IAD and EWR-HNL or will those routes actually see Polaris seats once the 763/764 mods are done?

I believe 77G would be significantly weight restricted on EWR/IAD-HNL with that configuration.

I've seen blocked seats on high-densisty 772As on ORD-HNL in January, which was kind of surprising but also not.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:56 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
FBWFTW wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
N644UA and N660UA are in HKG and expected to be the first receiving Polaris as part of the 2 class conversion.

There are 12 more 3 class 763s that should follow, but unclear at what pace.

There are 21 763s already in 2 class configuration with sCO lie-flat style seats up front. I have no idea what is next, but one would expect these to get Polaris after the former 3 class conversions are complete, but I have no information. (Same would apply to 764 fleet of 16 units).
Again, no idea, but If Polaris seats come faster than 2 class conversions proceed, maybe current 2 class 763s or 764s would start getting Polaris and may depend on how much work is necessary to replace sCO seats with Polaris - some modifications in Y may be needed. One would also expect 3 class UA 772s would get Polaris prior to sCO 772s.


Do you think that they'll eventually put the "Domestic" non 77A models (ie the ones w/range for it) on IAD and EWR-HNL or will those routes actually see Polaris seats once the 763/764 mods are done?



No all of the "domestic" 777s are the 77A model so EWR/IAD-HNL will continue to see the 764 & 763.


That's exciting to hear! I've seen some prognosticators suggest before that 772's (maybe the ER's??) may someday do the east coat to HI runs, but I'd much rather luck out and get a 763/4 coming off a GRU/LHR trip with Polaris hard product going from EWR-HNL. It'll sure be quite the experience even if the catering is "domestic" I've wondered since the added HI flight announcements if UA might even add a frequency or two on the East Coast if demand gets there (be it EWR or somewhere else) to HNL (is there a thread for that-timetables/guesstimates??) I gather that for the foreseeable future the 787 will not see the HI routes due to the "excess" range issue (even tho it was technically supposed to be a 76 replacement) I'd still much rather have any Polaris hard product plane on the odd long domestic run (To HNL/LAX etc from the east coast)
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:22 pm

777-300 (77W) new delivery:
N2341U delivered - entered SEA Induction 2685/23Jun
#10 delivered, remaining 4 all ready for delivery in PAE
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:51 pm

codc10 wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
Here is a neat progress tracker, along with start dates for the different types of a/c.

http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-tr ... e=20170621

States 763 Fall 2017 and 777 winter 2017. So, either the HKG 763's are not in for Polaris or it's going to take another 3 months until fall.


That's about right for a major interior mod. Installation, STC application, testing, approval and ironing out inevitable technical issues will take at least that long. The 777 timetable makes sense if the first one is to go in for mod after the summer schedule.


# 6444 is getting Polaris, Winglets and new paint. Scheduled ETR is 2nd half of August'17.

#6460 is getting a set of Winglets during it's MX visit.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:15 pm

CALTECH wrote:
codc10 wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
Here is a neat progress tracker, along with start dates for the different types of a/c

# 6444 is getting Polaris, Winglets and new paint. Scheduled ETR is 2nd half of August'17.

#6460 is getting a set of Winglets during it's MX visit.

6444 getting new paint? It's a bit early for sUA repainting so this should be interesting. :scratchchin:

FYI all of the remaining 789s are scheduled FAL in CHS.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:52 am

iahcsr wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
codc10 wrote:

6444 getting new paint? It's a bit early for sUA repainting so this should be interesting. :scratchchin:

FYI all of the remaining 789s are scheduled FAL in CHS.


Bring on some new paint!

With no top up order of 789's (stolen by the 77W), Feb will be the last 789 delivery for UA until Q4 then the -10 comes along.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:02 pm

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Bring on some new paint!

With no top up order of 789's (stolen by the 77W), Feb will be the last 789 delivery for UA until Q4 then the -10 comes along.

I have to imagine they're going to take some more 789s at some point. 24 aircraft is a small fleet for an airline the size of United, especially when it's looking increasingly like the the widebody fleet will be centered around the 777, 787, and the proposed 797/MOM (I think we're all in a "wait and see" mode on the A350). Given the missions they're performing with the 789 right now, I would think they'll want to continue to expand on that.

My best guess is they they waiting on something -- it could be the more favorable buying conditions that are anticipated to exist next year, it could be waiting to see the 787-10's performance when it enters service in roughly 6-8 months, it could be waiting to see actual specs on the 797 due out sometime next year -- but I think a 789 top up order will come eventually.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:43 pm

Does anyone know if United is planning modifications to the 737-800W fleet this fall? I have noticed on the seat maps that there are just two rows of first class and the removal of all onboard entertainment to be replaced with United Inflight entertainment via wifi?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:20 pm

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Does anyone know if United is planning modifications to the 737-800W fleet this fall? I have noticed on the seat maps that there are just two rows of first class and the removal of all onboard entertainment to be replaced with United Inflight entertainment via wifi?


That is the UA narrow body placeholder seatmap. Could become 319, 320, 73G, 738, or 739. Placeholder only includes the minimum F cabin and IFE that is possible. No changes to 738 configuration.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:38 pm

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Does anyone know if United is planning modifications to the 737-800W fleet this fall? I have noticed on the seat maps that there are just two rows of first class and the removal of all onboard entertainment to be replaced with United Inflight entertainment via wifi?

If it is in reservations, I have regularly seen flights only show 2 rows of first class, and the others only show up closer to the flight, I suspect for flights they expect they might change the aircraft type. Even if UA was planning to reduce F, I can't see them going down that much.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:53 pm

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Wheelsup0202 wrote:
Does anyone know if United is planning modifications to the 737-800W fleet this fall? I have noticed on the seat maps that there are just two rows of first class and the removal of all onboard entertainment to be replaced with United Inflight entertainment via wifi?

If it is in reservations, I have regularly seen flights only show 2 rows of first class, and the others only show up closer to the flight, I suspect for flights they expect they might change the aircraft type. Even if UA was planning to reduce F, I can't see them going down that much.


No UA is not going to reduce the F cabin configuration on any of the 737 fleet.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:57 pm

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777-300 (77W) new delivery:
N2341U delivered - entered SEA Induction 2685/23Jun
#10 delivered, remaining 4 all ready for delivery in PAE


If they are ready, why isn't UA sending one to SFO for induction to speed up the process? No capacity at SFO? I thought at least one other unit was inducted at SFO.
 
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calpsafltskeds wrote:
777-300 (77W) new delivery:
N2341U delivered - entered SEA Induction 2685/23Jun
#10 delivered, remaining 4 all ready for delivery in PAE


If they are ready, why isn't UA sending one to SFO for induction to speed up the process? No capacity at SFO? I thought at least one other unit was inducted at SFO.


Capacity discipline, staffing, MX resources. Right now UA has more than enough 77W to meet the schedule.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:02 pm

codc10 wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
777-300 (77W) new delivery:
N2341U delivered - entered SEA Induction 2685/23Jun
#10 delivered, remaining 4 all ready for delivery in PAE


If they are ready, why isn't UA sending one to SFO for induction to speed up the process? No capacity at SFO? I thought at least one other unit was inducted at SFO.


Capacity discipline, staffing, MX resources. Right now UA has more than enough 77W to meet the schedule.


43U will also fly today for induction as 42U is still having some issues but will follow shortly after

38U has been pushed back don't know why yet
 
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Domestic 777 N215UA did a test hop in HKG and should be back in service soon
 
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:38 am

boefan wrote:
codc10 wrote:
fun2fly wrote:

If they are ready, why isn't UA sending one to SFO for induction to speed up the process? No capacity at SFO? I thought at least one other unit was inducted at SFO.


Capacity discipline, staffing, MX resources. Right now UA has more than enough 77W to meet the schedule.


43U will also fly today for induction as 42U is still having some issues but will follow shortly after

38U has been pushed back don't know why yet

Hmm... Seems 43U was officially delivered to UA yes, but it's still sitting at PAE until 41U finishes induction at SEA... Assuming it has Polaris, otherwise 38U should leave next. Likewise if UA is handed the keys for the last two, 42U & 44U, both will be waiting their turn at SEA.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:26 pm

iahcsr wrote:
boefan wrote:
codc10 wrote:

Capacity discipline, staffing, MX resources. Right now UA has more than enough 77W to meet the schedule.


43U will also fly today for induction as 42U is still having some issues but will follow shortly after

38U has been pushed back don't know why yet

Hmm... Seems 43U was officially delivered to UA yes, but it's still sitting at PAE until 41U finishes induction at SEA... Assuming it has Polaris, otherwise 38U should leave next. Likewise if UA is handed the keys for the last two, 42U & 44U, both will be waiting their turn at SEA.


Indeed 43U is waiting its turn at SEA (my bad i thought they will fly it but seems United doesn't want the aircraft to sit on the ramp .)

42U is ready finally and is scheduled for an FCF today (28/6) . Only 44U awaits seats according to last weeks update)
 
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:49 pm

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772:
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N215UA sked to exit HKG 2809/30Jun in Domestic configuration
Leaves N211UA as last to convert - in HKG 5/37/17

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:21 pm

Any updates on a potential special for the 77W fleet? I know there was a ton of talk with 43 being line number 1,500
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:36 pm

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Any updates on a potential special for the 77W fleet? I know there was a ton of talk with 43 being line number 1,500

All of the first 14 are in the boring standard livery.. I guess 1500 wasn't worth a mention. It's been hinted that at least one of the next four will be *A.
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:42 pm

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N2341U is scheduled to fly SEA-SFO on June, 29. Flight# 2799
 
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N2341U is scheduled to fly SEA-SFO on June, 29. Flight# 2799

Any bets 43U will hop PAESEA same day? .. in fact same pilots logically could do both.
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Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:18 pm

77W
N2142U flew PAE-SEA today, June 30. Flight# 2685
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:28 pm

iahcsr wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
77W
N2341U is scheduled to fly SEA-SFO on June, 29. Flight# 2799

Any bets 43U will hop PAESEA same day? .. in fact same pilots logically could do both.


United made a last minute change due to the delay of 41U .
42U was completed in time and grabbed the next induction slot .
43U is waiting a new slot now it may fly directly to SFO as it has been delivered also
44U next month
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:56 pm

boefan wrote:
United made a last minute change due to the delay of 41U .
42U was completed in time and grabbed the next induction slot .
43U is waiting a new slot now it may fly directly to SFO as it has been delivered also
44U next month


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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:50 am

772:
N215UA HKG exit cancelled - stilol not showing a departure flight
N793UA sked to exit XMN to make up 896/2Jul from HKG


77W:
N2341U now in service 2729./30Jun
N2142U entered SEA Induction 2685/30Jun

UAX
E175:
N85351 has been delivered to Mesa
N85352 has been delivered to Mesa

CR7:
N744SK has left the fleet. Now flying AA. This completes the currently-scheduled CR7 reductions for 2017.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:58 am

boefan wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
77W
N2341U is scheduled to fly SEA-SFO on June, 29. Flight# 2799

Any bets 43U will hop PAESEA same day? .. in fact same pilots logically could do both.


United made a last minute change due to the delay of 41U .
42U was completed in time and grabbed the next induction slot .
43U is waiting a new slot now it may fly directly to SFO as it has been delivered also
44U next month

It's next month in five minutes... CDT :bigthumbsup:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:43 am

The next 77W routes will be:

EWR-NRT-EWR starting Oct 28th
SFO-FRA-SFO starting Oct 5th
SFO-PEK-SFO starting September 6th.

This is a loss for the sub CO NTA/NLS base who loses the NRT trip (6 day for NTA 3 day for NLS) but an increase in flying for the sub UA EWR base.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:47 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
This is a loss for the sub CO NTA/NLS base who loses the NRT trip (6 day for NTA 3 day for NLS) but an increase in flying for the sub UA EWR base.


This shouldn't matter by 2035 when the FA group can transition to a unified scheduling platform...
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:58 pm

codc10 wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
This is a loss for the sub CO NTA/NLS base who loses the NRT trip (6 day for NTA 3 day for NLS) but an increase in flying for the sub UA EWR base.


This shouldn't matter by 2035 when the FA group can transition to a unified scheduling platform...

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There are actually date(s) when this will be completed... although it's next year some time IIRC :scratchchin:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:13 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
The next 77W routes will be:

EWR-NRT-EWR starting Oct 28th
SFO-FRA-SFO starting Oct 5th
SFO-PEK-SFO starting September 6th.

This is a loss for the sub CO NTA/NLS base who loses the NRT trip (6 day for NTA 3 day for NLS) but an increase in flying for the sub UA EWR base.


Interesting EWR-NRT over EWR-HKG. Eventually EWR-HKG, BOM and DEL will probably see the 77W.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:23 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
The next 77W routes will be:

EWR-NRT-EWR starting Oct 28th


This is surprising. Conventional wisdom led us all to believe that EWR-HKG was higher on list of routes that could use the lift/range of the 77W. Does NRT have more demand or is it possibly linked to aircraft routing with the SFO-NRT trip?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:43 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
The next 77W routes will be:

EWR-NRT-EWR starting Oct 28th
SFO-FRA-SFO starting Oct 5th
SFO-PEK-SFO starting September 6th.

This is a loss for the sub CO NTA/NLS base who loses the NRT trip (6 day for NTA 3 day for NLS) but an increase in flying for the sub UA EWR base.


I also am surprised about EWR-NRT over EWR-HKG... Note that the SFO-PEK-SFO schedule is changing so that the aircraft does not RON at PEK.

This should be almost everything for the 77W in the short term. I believe the following routes utilize at least 11 frames, and I'm sure UA will keep a few as spares.
EWR-TLV
EWR-NRT
SFO-FRA
SFO-NRT
SFO-PEK
SFO-TPE
SFO-HKG

I don't think the 77W will stay on EWR-SFO now that frames can be rotated to EWR via NRT.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:58 pm

FSDan wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
The next 77W routes will be:

EWR-NRT-EWR starting Oct 28th
SFO-FRA-SFO starting Oct 5th
SFO-PEK-SFO starting September 6th.

This is a loss for the sub CO NTA/NLS base who loses the NRT trip (6 day for NTA 3 day for NLS) but an increase in flying for the sub UA EWR base.


I also am surprised about EWR-NRT over EWR-HKG... Note that the SFO-PEK-SFO schedule is changing so that the aircraft does not RON at PEK.

This should be almost everything for the 77W in the short term. I believe the following routes utilize at least 11 frames, and I'm sure UA will keep a few as spares.
EWR-TLV
EWR-NRT
SFO-FRA
SFO-NRT
SFO-PEK
SFO-TPE
SFO-HKG

I don't think the 77W will stay on EWR-SFO now that frames can be rotated to EWR via NRT.


So, you mean that with each 77W that is delivered will no longer be used short term on p.s. (sorry, what are we to call it now?) before starting international operations? I was kind of liking having one to go to SFO on...I did EWR/SFO RT, one way in Polaris on a 77W and a 757 on the way back, and I can sure say the Polaris seat makes a HUGE difference!
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:21 pm

FSDan wrote:
Note that the SFO-PEK-SFO schedule is changing so that the aircraft does not RON at PEK.


I'm seeing:

888 SFOPEK 1100 1440
889 PEKSFO 1200 0900

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