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Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:11 am

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Is there any way it could be Westjet? They have a partnership with Delta. It might make sense. They just announced they were starting in Denver.


Hmm, what about AM? I would expect AM to add CVG before WS would right....
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Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:14 am

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Enquirer reporter Jason Williams tweeted CVG will be announcing a new carrier tomorrow. Anyone hear any other rumors?


You would think they would be announcing a press conference, right? Although, maybe that is how Jason heard about it.


Presumably, he figured out from a press conference notification. He's not really the kind of reporter to tweet out a rumor as a fact. Interestingly, he just does politics now although he used to be the transport and airport reporter, so it's not out of the question he heard from an old source.

He also followed up on some speculation it could be LHR on some airline because an inside source told him a month ago P&G was lobbying for it, but clarified he has no knowledge this announcement is related. Which leads me to believe it was just a press notification.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:18 am

The WCPO reporter Liz Engel also tweeted about it and said that they were informed by a press release by the airport.

Having said that, the only thing I've heard is Condor. But in all honesty, when I heard about it I thought it was more a personal speculation than a rumor. Guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:36 am

Somebody in another thread (I think the thread which turned into the geographical pissing match) talked about BA being willing to work with "anybody with facilities willing to work with them" making reference to BNA's FIS facilities being inadequate for the moment but announcing service anyway.

I'm wondering if the renovations at CMH may be a holdup to a prospective TATL partner. If Condor adds CVG tomorrow, I can't help but feel like the window closes further. CMH wouldn't have been a contender for Condor, but FI felt like they'd have been a fit.

edit- Unless FI were to send that 757/737Max to CMH the other three days of the week.
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:58 am

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Somebody in another thread (I think the thread which turned into the geographical pissing match) talked about BA being willing to work with "anybody with facilities willing to work with them" making reference to BNA's FIS facilities being inadequate for the moment but announcing service anyway.

I'm wondering if the renovations at CMH may be a holdup to a prospective TATL partner. If Condor adds CVG tomorrow, I can't help but feel like the window closes further. CMH wouldn't have been a contender for Condor, but FI felt like they'd have been a fit.

edit- Unless FI were to send that 757/737Max to CMH the other three days of the week.


If it is a TATL Condor makes sense since FRA is the highest international on the "needs" list and definitely higher than London although with these new companies London is getting up there. And Condor is a low cost.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:12 am

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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:22 am

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Jshank83 wrote:
Is there any way it could be Westjet? They have a partnership with Delta. It might make sense. They just announced they were starting in Denver.

Hmm, what about AM? I would expect AM to add CVG before WS would right....

I think the DL partnership would help WS or AM, but I am not sure what the demand would be for either carrier at CVG. Since DL only operated CUN/SJD/PVR from CVG, I am guessing there is not a lot of MEX/MTY traffic in Cincinnati. Likewise, DL only ever tried CVG-YYZ/YUL/YVR/YXU, so I don't think YYC would be sustainable.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:39 am

Oh my--In just an 8-line long article, WCPO called DL and AA "low-cost options" and WN a "low-service airline".
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:43 am

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Oh my--In just an 8-line long article, WCPO called DL and AA "low-cost options" and WN a "low-service airline".

Wow, that is really bad. I would love to know where to get "low-cost options" on DL. :-)
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:12 am

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Interestingly, Alaska announced IND-SEA in the morning on a Wednesday and NK announced PIT at 7am on a Wednesday. Looks like B6 sticks to Tuesday/Thursday.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:15 am

^Hmmm that is interesting. One reason to do it that early is to accommodate other timezones. 7am in Cincy is 4am in Seattle, and earlier in Alaska---so rule out AS....so maybe Condor? 7am in Cincy is only 1pm in FRA. (though they've made a lot of US announcements lately)?

(Unless of course, that's the only time the person giving the conference is available, which is also possible.)
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:19 am

YUL has a major announcement tomorrow. Perhaps the CVG announcement could be related to that. Does AC serve CVG?
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:21 am

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YUL has a major announcement tomorrow. Perhaps the CVG announcement could be related to that. Does AC serve CVG?


AC already does serve CVG, but only has nonstop service to YYZ from CVG. In addition, there is currently no nonstop service to YUL from CVG on any airline.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:24 am

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YUL has a major announcement tomorrow. Perhaps the CVG announcement could be related to that. Does AC serve CVG?

Possible, though AC serves CVG-YYZ 3x/day and DL serves CVG-YYZ 2x/day, so we are certainly not lacking in service or competition.
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:24 am

The YUL announcement tomorrow is by AC, so scratch that!
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:16 am

STL also has a new airline announcement tomorrow. Makes me think it is Jetblue if these are connected.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:39 am

Is Southwest going to be announcing new service out of CVG next Monday?
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:42 am

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Is Southwest going to be announcing new service out of CVG next Monday?


I doubt it
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:45 am

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STL also has a new airline announcement tomorrow. Makes me think it is Jetblue if these are connected.


STL is getting BA tomorrow
 
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^Source?
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:58 am

Makes me think CVG is international also. No other reason to do one that early. Exciting stuff. Although, I just saw it mentioned Spirit did an early one also at PIT. Hopefully, it is bigger than Spirit
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:00 am

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^Source?


https://twitter.com/countondowntown/sta ... 8210174976

This is what I have seen so far. Seems to be in the know but I have been burned to many times before by others.
 
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Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:28 am

Wow! (pun intended). Wow is coming to CVG with 4x weekly to Iceland utilizing an A321 beginning May 9, 2018. Announcement was just made via an early morning news conference at CVG.
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:29 am

WOW service from REK to CVG 4x weekly (M-W-F-Su). Arr CVG 11:40pm, Dep 12:40am.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:58 am

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WOW service from REK to CVG 4x weekly (M-W-F-Su). Arr CVG 11:40pm, Dep 12:40am.


Fantastic news for the airport, and 4 weekly flights is a healthy start! This is a real godsend for midwesterners looking to travel in Europe on a budget.


Too bad CMH got skipped over, perhaps they don't want to cannibalize the other Ohio flights?
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:13 pm

Eh, it's better than nothing, but WOW hasn't done well at ORD, and continuously has operational and customer service issues across their entire system. Namely delays and cancellations due to extremely tight ops that leave pax stranded.

Just look at that schedule. An hour to do a turn when the aircraft has to be towed from B? Good luck with that. I wonder who's paying to keep CBP open that late.

Hopefully it does well enough to draw in another TATL airline.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:01 pm

Will be interesting to see what DL does on flights to Europe now from CVG. CVG-LHR is running $1400 r/t through DTW for the second week of May. Assuming $149 each way plus $60 for a checked bag, $20 for a meal, and $10 for a seat assignment, DL is looking at competing with a $500 all-in fare to Europe. Maybe $600 if you add some taxes to the UK. I expect fares on the CVG-CDG flight to stay high due to the premium demand, but this could bode well for connecting fares on DL. There's no way they cede connecting service to WW out of CVG.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:03 pm

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I expect fares on the CVG-CDG flight to stay high due to the premium demand, but this could bode well for connecting fares on DL. There's no way they cede connecting service to WW out of CVG.


And DTW doesn't have premium demand?
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:03 pm

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Will be interesting to see what DL does on flights to Europe now from CVG. CVG-LHR is running $1400 r/t through DTW for the second week of May. Assuming $149 each way plus $60 for a checked bag, $20 for a meal, and $10 for a seat assignment, DL is looking at competing with a $500 all-in fare to Europe. Maybe $600 if you add some taxes to the UK. I expect fares on the CVG-CDG flight to stay high due to the premium demand, but this could bode well for connecting fares on DL. There's no way they cede connecting service to WW out of CVG.


I think it'll bring prices down a little, but DL isn't in danger of losing contract customers to WOW. Those customers are generally what drive price, especially in a market like CVG.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:06 pm

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flyingfromcvg wrote:
I expect fares on the CVG-CDG flight to stay high due to the premium demand, but this could bode well for connecting fares on DL. There's no way they cede connecting service to WW out of CVG.


And DTW doesn't have premium demand?


For once can you post here without trying to start something?

OP is saying that a nonstop is going to have more premium demand than a 1-stop. That's common sense. :roll:
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:11 pm

Great news for CLE & CVG, disappointing for CMH and probably pushed CMH's TATL timeframe out a few years. I welcome the leadership change taking place this year at CRAA.

Hard to believe CLE got both FI & WW within 1 day!
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:11 pm

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flyingfromcvg wrote:
I expect fares on the CVG-CDG flight to stay high due to the premium demand, but this could bode well for connecting fares on DL. There's no way they cede connecting service to WW out of CVG.


And DTW doesn't have premium demand?


I was referring to DL not feeling the need to drop the fares on the direct flight to CDG because the forward cabin is always full with paid premium demand. Contrasted to the connecting flights from CVG, primarily through DTW and ATL, that will need to compete with WW on price. Not sure where you read DTW not having premium demand for direct flights to Europe in my post. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:11 pm

WWads wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
flyingfromcvg wrote:
I expect fares on the CVG-CDG flight to stay high due to the premium demand, but this could bode well for connecting fares on DL. There's no way they cede connecting service to WW out of CVG.


And DTW doesn't have premium demand?


For once can you post here without trying to start something?

OP is saying that a nonstop is going to have more premium demand than a 1-stop. That's common sense. :roll:
DL has also dropped nonstop fares from DTW-LHR to just over 1K, I suspect an upgauge in equipment could be in store to a 764 or 332 while maintaining 10x weekly. DTW-LON has been on a choke for some time and I think this WW flight is going to increase the travel between all of these regions and LON, giving other airlines a chance to take advantage of that aka DL or BA.
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Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:12 pm

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flyingfromcvg wrote:
I expect fares on the CVG-CDG flight to stay high due to the premium demand, but this could bode well for connecting fares on DL. There's no way they cede connecting service to WW out of CVG.


And DTW doesn't have premium demand?


I was referring to DL not feeling the need to drop the fares on the direct flight to CDG because the forward cabin is always full with paid premium demand. Contrasted to the connecting flights from CVG, primarily through DTW and ATL, that will need to compete with WW on price. Not sure where you read DTW not having premium demand for direct flights to Europe in my post. Sorry for the confusion.


Thanks for the clarification...
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flyingfromcvg wrote:
I expect fares on the CVG-CDG flight to stay high due to the premium demand, but this could bode well for connecting fares on DL. There's no way they cede connecting service to WW out of CVG.


And DTW doesn't have premium demand?


I was referring to DL not feeling the need to drop the fares on the direct flight to CDG because the forward cabin is always full with paid premium demand. Contrasted to the connecting flights from CVG, primarily through DTW and ATL, that will need to compete with WW on price. Not sure where you read DTW not having premium demand for direct flights to Europe in my post. Sorry for the confusion.


No need to apologize. Everyone else understood what you were saying.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:16 pm

WWads wrote:
flyingfromcvg wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:

And DTW doesn't have premium demand?


I was referring to DL not feeling the need to drop the fares on the direct flight to CDG because the forward cabin is always full with paid premium demand. Contrasted to the connecting flights from CVG, primarily through DTW and ATL, that will need to compete with WW on price. Not sure where you read DTW not having premium demand for direct flights to Europe in my post. Sorry for the confusion.


No need to apologize. Everyone else understood what you were saying.


Relax kiddo, it is 9:15 in the morning, no need to be cranky this early...
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Great news for CLE & CVG, disappointing for CMH and probably pushed CMH's TATL timeframe out a few years. I welcome the leadership change taking place this year at CRAA.


Yeah, that'll probably be it. FI and WW would've made lots of sense. I'd glad to be wrong, though. :(

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Yeah, that'll probably be it. FI and WW would've made lots of sense. I'd glad to be wrong, though. :(

CLE gets TATL service by two airlines to the same airport within 24 hours. CVG gets the second airline the next day. CMH gets a 5k run on 28R in October.


Yeah, the teased "big announcement" that turned out to be the 5K, was comical. Our peers in the area (CLE, CVG, IND, PIT) are adding new airlines/nonstop, becoming focus cities/mini-hubs and CowTown gets a 5K, lol.

However, I will continue to look towards the bright side. Perhaps WW to LGW or BA to LHR at some point in the near future.
 
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DeltaRules wrote:

Yeah, that'll probably be it. FI and WW would've made lots of sense. I'd glad to be wrong, though. :(

CLE gets TATL service by two airlines to the same airport within 24 hours. CVG gets the second airline the next day. CMH gets a 5k run on 28R in October.


Yeah, the teased "big announcement" that turned out to be the 5K, was comical. Our peers in the area (CLE, CVG, IND, PIT) are adding new airlines/nonstop, becoming focus cities/mini-hubs and CowTown gets a 5K, lol.

However, I will continue to look towards the bright side. Perhaps WW to LGW or BA to LHR at some point in the near future.


I simply do not see TATL service at CMH any time soon, if ever. This was CMH's big chance, and it didn't happen. It's just too close to CLE and CVG.

I wonder what the gate situation will look like? My guess would be A4.

An hour is extremely tight though, since the plane will have to be towed. Maybe the airport reached an agreement to allow WOW to use a B gate? It's not like DL is busy at that time of night. Then again, DL has increased the number of aircraft that ROA.
 
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WOW isn't done:

“We welcome competition from all airlines,” Mogensen said about the fresh competition from Icelandair. “No other airline has offered as low fares as we have done over the Atlantic. We will continue to add destinations in the U.S. in the next weeks and as always offer the lowest fares.”

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Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:50 pm

This is very exciting indeed and much-needed for CVG! I'll admit that I was more hoping for DE to FRA, but I'll certainly not be sad about WW to KEF! I'm also surprised at the frequency...4x weekly is a strong start. I'll be curious about their gate arrangement at CVG, will they come to an acceptable agreement with DL to depart from Concourse B or will they have to tow to Concourse A?
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:54 pm

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WOW isn't done:

“We welcome competition from all airlines,” Mogensen said about the fresh competition from Icelandair. “No other airline has offered as low fares as we have done over the Atlantic. We will continue to add destinations in the U.S. in the next weeks and as always offer the lowest fares.”

http://www.whas11.com/mb/news/wow-air-k ... /466668591


"WOW's flight selection pulldown menu lists CLE (along with AUS, DFW/DAL, IAH/HOU, LAS, PHX, SLC, TPA, and "View More") as departure points."

According to this post from the CLE thread it looks like those are some the airports they are considering
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Midwestindy wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
WOW isn't done:

“We welcome competition from all airlines,” Mogensen said about the fresh competition from Icelandair. “No other airline has offered as low fares as we have done over the Atlantic. We will continue to add destinations in the U.S. in the next weeks and as always offer the lowest fares.”

http://www.whas11.com/mb/news/wow-air-k ... /466668591


"WOW's flight selection pulldown menu lists CLE (along with AUS, DFW/DAL, IAH/HOU, LAS, PHX, SLC, TPA, and "View More") as departure points."

According to this post from the CLE thread it looks like those are some the airports they are considering


I guess it'll come down to where they plan on sending the A330s they're going to be getting starting next year. I'd imagine the A321neo doesn't have the legs for much anything West of the Mississippi.
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:22 pm

I still think CMH could land BA but the LCCs may have passed them by. They have a slightly larger AA presence than CVG and CLE and no TATL to compete with. Columbus is a decent size market, but I wonder if some airlines (especiallythe LCCs) are starting to think that they can pull the market a couple hours to CLE, PIT, and CVG.
 
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:50 pm

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I still think CMH could land BA but the LCCs may have passed them by. They have a slightly larger AA presence than CVG and CLE and no TATL to compete with. Columbus is a decent size market, but I wonder if some airlines (especiallythe LCCs) are starting to think that they can pull the market a couple hours to CLE, PIT, and CVG.


CMH is certainly feeling "boxed in" at the moment. Within 2-3 hr drive, the north, south, and east all have options now (WW,FI,DL, & DE to KEF,CDG, & FRA - not including DTW options). And If IND lands something, say AMS or LHR, well...

CMH certainly has (or perhaps, "had") the ability to sustain some type of TATL, but with potential bleed all over the place...fingers crossed.
 
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Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:00 pm

Wonder about the gate situation. Will they unload at B and tow to A at CVG? If delta just gives up one widebody gate that would change everything because since the WOW flights are so late an airline like Condor could have space to come in with a 6-8 landing departure flight or something like that.
 
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Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:07 pm

Cvgspotter15 wrote:
Wonder about the gate situation. Will they unload at B and tow to A at CVG? If delta just gives up one widebody gate that would change everything because since the WOW flights are so late an airline like Condor could have space to come in with a 6-8 landing departure flight or something like that.

Reading the Enquirer article it says the flights will actually depart from Concourse B as well, so it looks like our speculative concern about the use of DL's FIS-equipped B gates being an obstacle were overblown?

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