tom11
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Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:37 am

When looking at booking a flight from Hartford, CT (BDL) to Washington, DC (DCA) for a weekend in May, I noticed an odd scheduling situation.

American Airlines/Eagle normally operates between 6 and 7 non-stop flights a day between Hartford and DCA -- so imagine my surprise when I put in the date of Saturday, May 13 and found no non-stop flights between BDL and DCA. Confused, I checked flights for the previous day - Friday, May 12. Sure enough, 7 flights that Friday. When I looked for the day after, Sunday, May 14 I again saw no non-stop flights. But looking at the following day, Monday, May 15 it showed 7 flights again. Now -- many airlines do reduce flights on weekends, especially Saturday's. I wouldn't have been surprised to see less flights -- but to see none -- that didn't seem to make any sense, especially as we were going into peak summer season. In addition, going from 7 flights on weekday's to 0 on weekends is extremely odd reduction, not matched by other airports in the area like ALB, PVD, MHT, or BOS.

Confused, I looked further into it. Looking at flights from DCA to BDL on Friday night, I noticed there is a 11:30pm ET arrival from DCA on an E175. With no more departures that night, logic would say that the E175 will RON at BDL, and depart the next day. Looking at the Saturday AA schedules -- there seems to be nowhere for it to depart to, however: LAX, MIA, and CLT are all mainline, ORD's morning flight is mainline, and both PHL flights are on RON aircraft from PHL that came in the night before (one E175 and one CRJ2).

In addition, the Monday morning BDL - DCA flight is an E175 that departs at 6am ET. Now -- E175's don't just appear out of thin air, so that plane would have to come from somewhere, and it doesn't appear to come from anywhere on Sunday night. The only solution here would be that the E175 that came in Friday night is sitting on the ground at BDL not being utilized until Monday morning -- but that seems like terrible aircraft utilization.

I noticed that the weekend DCA flights disappear on the weekend of April 8/9 -- they are in the schedule for the weekend of April 1/2. This same situation appears every weekend after April 1/2 through the end of 2017, it appears.

I did speak to a very nice AA reservations person who seemed to be as confused as me -- but offered no solution and said that they would "investigate" the issue further.

What gives?
 
jetblueguy22
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:47 am

It's 5 months out. The finished schedule just isn't loaded yet.
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:48 am

I just checked Sabre, there are not flights on the weekends there. May is a notoriously slow month, its possible that they just cut the weekend flying to DCA because its traditionally low traffic, as are most business oriented routes on the weekends in the north-east.

Edit: I also agree with above... schedule isn't finalized yet^^^
 
tom11
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:51 am

jetblueguy22 wrote:
It's 5 months out. The finished schedule just isn't loaded yet.


This starts in April -- just over 90 days out.

qcpilotxf wrote:
I just checked Sabre, there are not flights on the weekends there. May is a notoriously slow month, its possible that they just cut the weekend flying to DCA because its traditionally low traffic, as are most business oriented routes on the weekends in the north-east.

Edit: I also agree with above... schedule isn't finalized yet^^^


This appears to go from April thru year end-2017. Right -- but smaller stations like PVD, ALB, and MHT keep DCA? And the E175 sitting for 3 nights not doing any flying? May is slow -- but if you can fill 7 planes on Friday and Monday you can surely fill at least a couple on Saturday and Sunday.
 
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:35 am

One has to wonder if B6 nonstop BDL-DCA service is having some affect or impact?
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:41 am

Maybe they don't see the need. DL doesn't fly CVG-DFW on Saturdays. They fly it every other day.
 
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:37 am

What the first poster said. Schedule is not finished being loaded. There may be a few of those flights that don't fly on Saturday, but there will not be zero service. Way too busy of a route.
 
jetblueguy22
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:28 pm

tom11 wrote:
jetblueguy22 wrote:
It's 5 months out. The finished schedule just isn't loaded yet.


This starts in April -- just over 90 days out.

qcpilotxf wrote:
I just checked Sabre, there are not flights on the weekends there. May is a notoriously slow month, its possible that they just cut the weekend flying to DCA because its traditionally low traffic, as are most business oriented routes on the weekends in the north-east.

Edit: I also agree with above... schedule isn't finalized yet^^^


This appears to go from April thru year end-2017. Right -- but smaller stations like PVD, ALB, and MHT keep DCA? And the E175 sitting for 3 nights not doing any flying? May is slow -- but if you can fill 7 planes on Friday and Monday you can surely fill at least a couple on Saturday and Sunday.

I've had Delta flights changed at 30 days out. Still plenty of time
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:37 pm

tom11 wrote:
When looking at booking a flight from Hartford, CT (BDL) to Washington, DC (DCA) for a weekend in May, I noticed an odd scheduling situation.

American Airlines/Eagle normally operates between 6 and 7 non-stop flights a day between Hartford and DCA -- so imagine my surprise when I put in the date of Saturday, May 13 and found no non-stop flights between BDL and DCA. Confused, I checked flights for the previous day - Friday, May 12. Sure enough, 7 flights that Friday. When I looked for the day after, Sunday, May 14 I again saw no non-stop flights. But looking at the following day, Monday, May 15 it showed 7 flights again. Now -- many airlines do reduce flights on weekends, especially Saturday's. I wouldn't have been surprised to see less flights -- but to see none -- that didn't seem to make any sense, especially as we were going into peak summer season. In addition, going from 7 flights on weekday's to 0 on weekends is extremely odd reduction, not matched by other airports in the area like ALB, PVD, MHT, or BOS.

Confused, I looked further into it. Looking at flights from DCA to BDL on Friday night, I noticed there is a 11:30pm ET arrival from DCA on an E175. With no more departures that night, logic would say that the E175 will RON at BDL, and depart the next day. Looking at the Saturday AA schedules -- there seems to be nowhere for it to depart to, however: LAX, MIA, and CLT are all mainline, ORD's morning flight is mainline, and both PHL flights are on RON aircraft from PHL that came in the night before (one E175 and one CRJ2).

In addition, the Monday morning BDL - DCA flight is an E175 that departs at 6am ET. Now -- E175's don't just appear out of thin air, so that plane would have to come from somewhere, and it doesn't appear to come from anywhere on Sunday night. The only solution here would be that the E175 that came in Friday night is sitting on the ground at BDL not being utilized until Monday morning -- but that seems like terrible aircraft utilization.

I noticed that the weekend DCA flights disappear on the weekend of April 8/9 -- they are in the schedule for the weekend of April 1/2. This same situation appears every weekend after April 1/2 through the end of 2017, it appears.

I did speak to a very nice AA reservations person who seemed to be as confused as me -- but offered no solution and said that they would "investigate" the issue further.

What gives?


Just booked BDL- DCA Friday 04-14-2017 and Sunday DCA-BDL 04-16-2017. Sunday 04-16-2017 is showing 6 nonstop DCA-BDL so it seems that the schedule wasn't loaded at the time you viewed.
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Re: Scheduling Anomaly - BDL to DCA

Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:30 pm

Anything 3 months out or greater is essentially a rough draft. There are open ends, bad connection times, and equipment issues that will be ironed out. I wouldn't put too much concern on it.
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