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SCQ83
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Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:02 pm

Record 230 million passengers have flown through AENA Spanish airports in 2016, a 11% increase over record 2015. For the first time since 2008, Madrid has surpassed the 50 million passenger mark. Hopefully 2017 will bring a new all-time record to MAD. Only airports above 2 million PAX:

ADOLFO SUÁREZ MADRID-BARAJAS 50,420,583 +7.7% (record 2007, 52,789,619)
BARCELONA-EL PRAT 44,154,693 +11.2% (record)
PALMA DE MALLORCA 26,253,882 +10.6% (record)
MALAGA-COSTA DEL SOL 16,672,776 +15.7% (record)
ALICANTE-ELCHE 12,344,945 +16.7% (record)
GRAN CANARIA 12,093,645 +13.8% (record)
TENERIFE-SUR 10,472,404 +14.9% (record)
IBIZA 7,416,368 +14.5% (record)
LANZAROTE 6,683,966 +9.1% (record)
VALENCIA 5,799,104 +14.7% (record 2007, 5,933,424)
FUERTEVENTURA 5,676,817 +12.9% (record)
SEVILLA 4,624,038 +7.3% (record 2011, 4,959,365)
BILBAO 4,588,265 +7.3% (record)
TENERIFE-NORTE 4,219,191 +10.6% (record 2008, 4,236,615)
MENORCA 3,178,612 +10.8% (record)
SANTIAGO 2,510,740 +9.3% (record)


Only MAD, VLC, SVQ and TFN are not in all time record.
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:29 pm

Quite amazing to think MAD was busier than AMS briefly some years ago. Now AMS is 25% busier. Good to see them recovering though!
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:32 pm

FlyingHollander wrote:
Quite amazing to think MAD was busier than AMS briefly some years ago. Now AMS is 25% busier. Good to see them recovering though!


In addition to the crisis, you must take in consideration the new high speed trains open after 2008. Air passenger numbers to AGP, VLC or ALC and to a lesser extent BCN have collapsed with those new trains.
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:44 pm

Amazing stadistics... If Iberia do it well, MAD will do it well too...

For the first time, BCN has more than 40pax/year... growning more than 11% is awesome taking into account that BCN has a minimum long-haul flights in comparison with other european major airports. BCN will need another terminal in the next 3 years if continues growing by the 10% every year...
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:54 pm

fjmm92 wrote:
Amazing stadistics... If Iberia do it well, MAD will do it well too...

For the first time, BCN has more than 40pax/year... growning more than 11% is awesome taking into account that BCN has a minimum long-haul flights in comparison with other european major airports. BCN will need another terminal in the next 3 years if continues growing by the 10% every year...


A passenger is a passenger, whether it is a BCN-TLS or BCN-LAX.

However in passengers per distance, MAD would be miles ahead of BCN.
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:00 pm

fjmm92 wrote:
Amazing stadistics... If Iberia do it well, MAD will do it well too...

For the first time, BCN has more than 40pax/year... growning more than 11% is awesome taking into account that BCN has a minimum long-haul flights in comparison with other european major airports. BCN will need another terminal in the next 3 years if continues growing by the 10% every year...


Before that happens AENA should move 1 alliance (probably SkyTeam) to the old terminal (Terminal 2) and build some new jet bridges for widebodies on the south side of Terminal 1. Currently Terminal 2 moves around 13-14 million pax/year so that means is under is own capacity. Remember that T2 was moving almost 32 million pax/year alone in 2007.

I think BCN has enough capacity to reach over 60 millions pax/year with the current terminals.
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:41 pm

Nice to see the Spain doing good.
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:48 pm

FlyingHollander wrote:
Quite amazing to think MAD was busier than AMS briefly some years ago. Now AMS is 25% busier. Good to see them recovering though!


Just as SCQ83 has explained, MAD-Barajas' main hurdle is not the financial crisis, but the super-efficient high speed rail from Madrid city centre.

Nowadays, the five most important cities of Spain (after Madrid) are linked to Madrid via high speed trains: Barcelona, Sevilla, Valencia, Málaga and Alicante, and this has had an appalling effect on flights between such city pairs. A few examples:
-MAD-BCN: Before the high speed train, there were flights throughout the day every 5-10-15 minutes, many of them in Boeing 757s and Airbus 321s. Now there are just a couple of flights per hour, and many of them do not operate daily basis.
-MAD-ALC: Before the high speed train, there were several flights every day, many of them on AIrbus 321s. Now, there are 5-6 flights per day, at least 2 of them in ATRs.
-MAD-SVQ: Before the high speed train, Iberia used to fly many A300s (!) on this route. I clearly remember flying on a fully booked one and seeing a long waiting list at the gate. Now there are just 3 flights per day on 320s.

The next high speed connection to be introduced will be Madrid-Bilbao, and as a consequence, Spanish AIrlines will lose the last yummy route from MAD to anywhere in continental Spain. Of course there are still interesting markets such as MAD-Canaries and MAD-Balearic islands that are unlikely (joke) to receive the high speed train anytime soon.

Please note that the situation in Barcelona is different. Due to its location, only flights to MAD have been affected, while flights to SVQ, AGP, etc, remain dynamic for Vueling's sake.
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:03 am

So nice to see BCN doing so well :) and 2017 will be even better as so much tourism is being redirected to safer countries such as Spain. I remember arriving a day after Spanair closing and brand new terminal T1 being eerily empty. Thank god BCN recovered - Barcelona is my favorite city in Europe - and that is why I chose to live here !
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:06 am

presumably all the tourist destinations contributing pac numbers given the transfer of holidaymakers from Turkey and Tunisia?
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:14 am

Egypt Tunisia and Turkey :)
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:20 am

This morning I saw a Mahan Air A343 flying into BCN ... so we now have SQ, CX, KE, CA, EK, PK, RJ and TK flying from Asia to BCN - all new in the past 6 years.
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:01 pm

JayBCNLON wrote:
Egypt Tunisia and Turkey :)

And our Russian friends have "discovered" the Spainish islands. A friend works at a 5 star hotel on Tenerife and they have language lessons twice a week and a newly recuited assistant concierge from Moscow. The hotel certainly thinks it's worth it.
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:33 pm

BCN will need another terminal in the next 3 years if continues growing by the 10% every year...

Not really. The new T1 is massive, and in T2 there are sections closed off after T1's opening that could be reactivated for further growth. As another poster said, SkyTeam or Star could be moved in there.

I think BCN has enough capacity to reach over 60 millions pax/year with the current terminals.

With the current terminals...yes. But with the current runways? 60mio/year with two independent runways would be near-LHR average plane sizes, but the LCCs at BCN use A32x / 73x.
I wonder how the slot situation looks like currently. VY is organized more as a rolling hub than with waves, correct?

MAD-Barajas' main hurdle is not the financial crisis, but the super-efficient high speed rail from Madrid city centre.

and that train could be turned into a collaborator, not a competitor, if MAD were to be linked to that network - IMO it should be the next thing on the homework list.
 
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Re: Record year in Spain with 230 million PAX, MAD over 50 million again

Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:48 pm

Thanks to crazy Erdogan, ESP is on the rise. And I predict BCN won't see any losses even after those deadly attacks.

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