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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:37 pm

My first 4 flights ever on UA were on 747s. One each August from 1978-1981. Either JFK-LAX or LAX-JFK. Of course, those were 741s or 742s. Look like I won't get to sample the 744
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:14 pm

My first flight ever was on a TWA 747-131 LHRJFK in March 1970. I have been lucky enough to fly on the 100/200/300/400 and the SP. To me the Queen of the Skies is the greatest commercial aircraft of all time,and yes I have flown on Concord. Sadly it sounds as though UA have not kept theirs updated as well as BA and LH, which means they must compare badly to the 777.
I know many BA travellers who much prefer the 747 to the 777 especially in F and J. They are more spacious, fly smoother and are quieter, but yes they do use lots of gas. On the other had so does a Cadillac when compared to a Nissan.
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:22 pm

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A United 747-400 was my very first 747 experience. I flew on one in 2000 from LAX-HKG. I will never forget seeing those wings from the inside of the aircraft for the first time. Since I was a child, it was my dream to fly on one, so I made it happen, the summer after my first year in college.

Next month, I will being flying the United 747-400, SFO-ICN-SFO, which will probably be my last flight on this remarkable aircraft. Last year I did SFO-HKG-SFO, which I thought would be my last. I will be doing Polaris First on this trip, which I'm pumped about. I realize the seat will not be different, but I am interested on the change in amenities and service. Will let you all know what I think or notice. I booked my ticket as global first, but notice they rebranded sometime in November/December when I went in to review my reservation.

I booked a seat close to the rear of the first class cabin for the first leg, in hopes to still get a decent wing view, before the cabin starts pointing inward to the nose. On the return, I purposely booked the very first seat in the house at the very front of the first class cabin, just to say I had flown ahead of the pilots. :-)

I've always enjoyed this aircraft. It's powerful...and smooth. Turbulence feels different on a 747-400, than it does on other aircraft. Almost like the wings are less rigid. I get the same feeling on the A380, even more exaggerated. I actually have never thought this aircraft was particularly loud. Sure it gets louder at the rear, but most of them do.

Will be sad to see her go, but the 787, A350, and the new 777's will be remarkable, and I'm all about advances in comfort, technology, and fuel savings.


I'm attempting to get 1st class on the 747-400 before they retire them as well to get a good view of the wing out the window either seats 4A or 4K will be better than rows 1-3
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:43 pm

Surely the youngest 744 (built in 2000) will find a new owner.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:44 pm

I flew on an UA 744 last memorial day. Went out of my way to fly DPS - CGK - NRT - SFO - IAH just to get one last flight on her, since I knew her days were coming to a close. I made sure I got an upper deck, window seat so I could close out the experience. Those birds are very rough on the inside, but the queen is a legend. Sorry to see her go.
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:05 am

blacksoviet wrote:
Surely the youngest 744 (built in 2000) will find a new owner.


17 years old isn't that young really. Sure, they have lots of hours left on them to burn, but I'm pretty sure these frames will all get scrapped. Look at lines N193UA and other UA 747-400s that were scrapped with barely 10 years and 40k hours of utilization. Sad but true.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:26 am

I think UA will get a great deal on 77Ws and cancel the 3510s (but those will get converted to...)

HKG-EWR/ORD can not get the 77W fast enough. I would be shocked if they are not the next to switch.

Rumor at ORD today is that ORD-BOM is being looked at. If true, about time! Rotate this with EWR...
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:39 am

Once the 747 retires completely (yes, i'm sure it could be awhile thanks to cargo), does it retain the "queen of the skies" title, or is that passed off to some other aircraift?
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:47 am

With an outdated interior and MX delays, I'm not surprised to hear it has poor customer satisfaction scores.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:50 am

N105UA & N116UA are in ORD. Any one know why?
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:07 am

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I love the 747s but UA has done a pretty sh*tty job maintaining the aircraft, seats, IFE/PDE, and WiFi (presumably because they are retiring it. Fast.) I was delayed between 2-to-7 hours constantly when flying SFO/TPE and SFO/HKG. Once I was on UA862 and neither PDE nor WiFi worked. And another time, my UA872, supposedly TPE-SFO, turned into TPE-NRT-SFO and swapped aircraft at NRT. :(


Last time I flew United (ugh) the WiFi was out on both the 744 (NRT-SFO) and 789 (SFO-SYD). The IFE was out on the 789 which meant that the overhead light controls were out too. The PA system on the 744 was... quaint, but otherwise United's experience in the back on the 747 is, IMO, far superior. The non-reclining seats on the 789 are torturous, made worse when mine wouldn't even stay in position. Thankfully the only delay I encountered was coming out of SFO where United tries to game the Sydney curfew. Dunno how F or J compare, but give me properly padded, reclining seats and a proper window shade any day of the week.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:27 am

globalcabotage wrote:
Rumor at ORD today is that ORD-BOM is being looked at. If true, about time! Rotate this with EWR...


Are those rumors planned to coincide with today's Air Canada's announcement of starting YYZ-BOM non-stop?

(I know wrong thread to discuss this, but just curious)
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:48 am

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I tried to fly a 747 a year ago from ORD-FRA but there was an equipment swap the day of the flight to a 777. I was soooo mad!!!


ROTFL In 1998 or 9 I had the exact OPPOSITE thing happen. I'd specifically booked an SFO-ORD flight on a 777 to get my first ever 777 flight and wouldn't you know it there was a goddamn 744 at the gate when I got there.

I never in my wildest dreams would have thought that there would come a day when I'd be upset to see a surprise 744. But that day came.

My last 744 trip was in 2008. In the same three months I flew one SFO-LHR and back on BA (my first and only RR-powered 744 flight) and then one SFO-SYD on UA.

I've flown aboard 747s in every variant except the -SP. I've flown on the upper decks of 743s and 744s. There is something about getting on a 747. It's different from other airplanes. There is a feel, an ambience, a gravitas. This is the iconic airplane.

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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:04 am

My Dad came to America on a 747. My first flight overseas, way back when I couldn't even remember if it was BA or UA, was on a 747. I do remember standing at the gate and seeing the massive, double decker, stunning behemoth of a plane known as the 747-400. I prefer flying on an A380 or a 77W. But I loved JFK, not because of the airport, but because of the 747s that once dominated the airport. This beautiful plane is at the end of it's life. Seems like the only way you can fly a 747 now is either LH or BA. For me, the 747 represents my entire childhood. I was fascinated by the plane. Sad to see it go. Long live the Queen.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:20 am

DocLightning wrote:
joeljack wrote:

I tried to fly a 747 a year ago from ORD-FRA but there was an equipment swap the day of the flight to a 777. I was soooo mad!!!


ROTFL In 1998 or 9 I had the exact OPPOSITE thing happen. I'd specifically booked an SFO-ORD flight on a 777 to get my first ever 777 flight and wouldn't you know it there was a goddamn 744 at the gate when I got there.

I never in my wildest dreams would have thought that there would come a day when I'd be upset to see a surprise 744. But that day came.

My last 744 trip was in 2008. In the same three months I flew one SFO-LHR and back on BA (my first and only RR-powered 744 flight) and then one SFO-SYD on UA.

I've flown aboard 747s in every variant except the -SP. I've flown on the upper decks of 743s and 744s. There is something about getting on a 747. It's different from other airplanes. There is a feel, an ambience, a gravitas. This is the iconic airplane.

The newer twins are marvels of engineering and a manifestation of an evolutionary process. And yet...none of them is the Queen of the Skies. There will never be another Queen of the Skies. Long live the Queen.


I agree, I love the A380 I don't have the same feeling has I've Had in a 747 nose or upper deck. The A380 is so big up top It feels like the bottom deck to me. And that's my favorite thing about the A380 is the room but the feel of a 747 is unique. I look forward to flying the 747-800 soon.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:34 am

A self-plug, here is my trip report flying in seat 1A and the upper deck SFO-ORD-SFO last spring:

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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:39 am

I have seen (and shot) a UA 744 exactly once---during last summer's Olympics, and then the plane ferried to Chicago after arriving at Newark. I would hope that UA at least sells the newer 744s back to Boeing, which is storing them in the desert until older freighters run out of hours.

That said, I would want to see some 789s on runs out of Newark to either Israel or India (the 789s and ex-CO 772s have only a few seat difference).
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:39 am

xjetflyer2001 wrote:
I'm attempting to get 1st class on the 747-400 before they retire them as well to get a good view of the wing out the window either seats 4A or 4K will be better than rows 1-3


You might be a bit disappointed in that idea. If I recall from
My times in row 4 the wing isn't visible. Maybe a tiny sliver of the winglet at best if you really crank your neck at the window. Then you get all the awful noise and light from the galley during the majority of the flight. Also you'll get all of commotion of lav bound passengers passing by. Row 1 is a much more unique seat and incredibly private and quiet. Row 2 isn't half bad either. I've had row 4 in all seats on several occasions and I can say I'd rather be upstairs in the exit row of business class vs any seat in that row. Then again I'm very aware of noise and light coming from the galley which bugs me to no end. Your mileage may vary.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:31 am

globalcabotage wrote:
I think UA will get a great deal on 77Ws and cancel the 3510s (but those will get converted to...)

plus the other posts dealing with the implications on UA's A350-1000-order (I am too stupid to make several quotes with this NG-version of our beloved forum...)

Just some weeks ago we discussed an Bloomberg-interview with UA's CFO Andrew Levy. The key messages were:

United is weighing the conversion of Airbus A350-1000s as it looks to replace its fleet of 747 jumbo jets. The carrier could switch to a smaller version of the aircraft, or even the mid-sized A330.


“These fleet decision are big decisions, they affect your balance sheet for a long time,” Levy, 47, said in the interview at United’s Chicago headquarters. “These are big capital decisions that you have to live with for a really long time, so you need to make sure you get it right.”


I am curious about UA's next steps...
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:02 am

Some of the UA 747s have the fuel tank mod, so could have a chance to go to another operator
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:22 pm

No one has mentioned that they'll be retiring the aircraft *47 years after entering service in 1970 - kinda bittersweet and ironic.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:59 pm

Which ones had the mod.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:51 pm

estorilm wrote:
No one has mentioned that they'll be retiring the aircraft *47 years after entering service in 1970 - kinda bittersweet and ironic.


How exactly is this ironic?
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:40 pm

XAM2175 wrote:
estorilm wrote:
No one has mentioned that they'll be retiring the aircraft *47 years after entering service in 1970 - kinda bittersweet and ironic.


How exactly is this ironic?

It's a 7(47 years) :roll:
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:12 pm

estorilm wrote:
XAM2175 wrote:
estorilm wrote:
No one has mentioned that they'll be retiring the aircraft *47 years after entering service in 1970 - kinda bittersweet and ironic.


How exactly is this ironic?

It's a 7(47 years) :roll:



Ok. But that's not what irony is. :roll:
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:46 pm

Well, fly one on BA or LH. They will be around for a while. And BA has done what UA didn't - updated the interior.

Some of the those UA 744's are actually newer than their 772's. A shame to see the plane that gambled the farm on slowly (or not so slowly) disappear from passenger usage.
Almost 50 years of use by UA isn't bad though!
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:37 pm

estorilm wrote:
It's a 7(47 years) :roll:


irony
ˈʌɪrəni/
noun
- the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
- a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.
- a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.

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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:19 am

Schedules being updated.

744 flights are replaced by the 772 or 789 effective following dates:

SFO-PVG - Oct 05
SFO-FRA - Oct 28
SFO-NRT - Oct 28
SFO-PEK - Oct 28
SFO-TPE - Oct 28
SFO-ICN - Oct 29

Obviously schedules will be further adjusted as new delivery 77Ws are added to the fleet.
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:41 am

TC957 wrote:
Such a shame that UA didn't go for the 748i.

What would be their incentive to go for something so resoundingly rejected by the market at large?


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Sad and and quite unpatriotic that soon no US airline anymore operates the greatest airplane of domestic manufacture.

As soon as enough passengers decide that they want to pay at "patriotism fee" in addition to their fare purchase, perhaps the carriers will reconsider.... until then, no one (on either side) has reason to care about such a ridiculous notion.
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:04 am

It looks like the 744 will not last as long as the 741 did at UA. United operated the 741 for thirty years!
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:14 am

I know some of the UA FAs will be pleased by the 744 early retirement. The 744 reliability problems have been chronic for the last several years and the delays and cancellations cause chaos.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:52 am

So will their former 744 become another cargo airline in the future or its going to be scrapped?
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:18 pm

MariaLenin wrote:
So will their former 744 become another cargo airline in the future or its going to be scrapped?


I would hope that UA sells some back to Boeing, as they're storing planes converted to freighters until older ones run out of hours.

As for the last UA 747-400 trip, as per Airline Route, it appears to be October 28 with UA 893 (SFO departure). http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... -oct-2017/ All current 744 routes will be replaced by the 772 (except SFO-PVG, which will get a 787-9).
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:25 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
MariaLenin wrote:
So will their former 744 become another cargo airline in the future or its going to be scrapped?


I would hope that UA sells some back to Boeing, as they're storing planes converted to freighters until older ones run out of hours.

As for the last UA 747-400 trip, as per Airline Route, it appears to be October 28 with UA 893 (SFO departure). http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... -oct-2017/ All current 744 routes will be replaced by the 772 (except SFO-PVG, which will get a 787-9).


I doubt anybody is converting 747's to freighters anymore.
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:35 pm

UA retired two 744s this week, N179UA (25 1/2 years old, 105.000 flight hours) and N197UA (almost 19 1/2 years old, unknown record). Both were ferried to Victorville.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:54 pm

zippy wrote:
...The non-reclining seats on the 789 are torturous, made worse when mine wouldn't even stay in position...


If the seats were "non-reclining," then how did they not stay in position? Can you please explain?
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:25 pm

na wrote:
UA retired two 744s this week, N179UA (25 1/2 years old, 105.000 flight hours) and N197UA (almost 19 1/2 years old, unknown record). Both were ferried to Victorville.


Last record I can find of 197UA was from Feb of last year (74000 hours) so based on normal usage she's probably got a little over 77000 hours by retirement.
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:33 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
MariaLenin wrote:
So will their former 744 become another cargo airline in the future or its going to be scrapped?


I would hope that UA sells some back to Boeing, as they're storing planes converted to freighters until older ones run out of hours.

As for the last UA 747-400 trip, as per Airline Route, it appears to be October 28 with UA 893 (SFO departure). http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... -oct-2017/ All current 744 routes will be replaced by the 772 (except SFO-PVG, which will get a 787-9).


Good find. I'm guessing the 772s are placeholders in some cases until more 77Ws arrive.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:18 pm

* bump *

United to retire 747 in October: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... er-435348/
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:12 pm

United Airlines Boeing 747-400 Reg. N120UA has been ferried SFO-VCV as UA2772 on the 6th July 2017 last passenger flight was from Beijing to San Francisco as UA889 this airframe is currently 18 years old
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:42 pm

The time has come. Makes perfect sense but still sad to see them go. N199 and N120 provided me a few great rides between ORD and HKG.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:22 am

Anyone know when N121UA is supposed to leave? I got some sentimental value in that bird.
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:48 am

United Airlines N122UA LN1218 has now been retired last passenger flight was from Seoul to San Francisco on the 18TH June as UA892 and on the 19TH June ferried to Victorville as UA2776
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:53 am

How does this 747 retirement by October coincide with their 77W deliveries? Does anyone have the numbers for 77W delivery schedule?
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:00 pm

LAXintl wrote:
Schedules being updated.

744 flights are replaced by the 772 or 789 effective following dates:

SFO-PVG - Oct 05
SFO-FRA - Oct 28
SFO-NRT - Oct 28
SFO-PEK - Oct 28
SFO-TPE - Oct 28
SFO-ICN - Oct 29

Obviously schedules will be further adjusted as new delivery 77Ws are added to the fleet.


a few of the above flights are wrong.

SFO-NRT is not a 772 or 789. Its flown on the 77W now
SFO-PVG is already being flown with 788 on one flight.



SFO-FRA - Oct 28
SFO-PEK - Oct 28-This will be the last 744 Flight. UA889
SFO-TPE - Oct 28--Think this flight switches to a 77W in august.
SFO-ICN - Oct 29--no idea what they'll fly here after the 744 retires. Maybe the 77W or 789??

Current 744 routes:
SFO-FRA
SFO-LHR
SFO-PEK
SFO-ICN
SFO-TPE
SFO-PVG (one flight)
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:02 pm

what happens to the interior? seats and galley parts? are they scrapped or stored with UA?
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:08 pm

xxcr wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
Schedules being updated.

744 flights are replaced by the 772 or 789 effective following dates:

SFO-PVG - Oct 05
SFO-FRA - Oct 28
SFO-NRT - Oct 28
SFO-PEK - Oct 28
SFO-TPE - Oct 28
SFO-ICN - Oct 29

Obviously schedules will be further adjusted as new delivery 77Ws are added to the fleet.


a few of the above flights are wrong.

SFO-NRT is not a 772 or 789. Its flown on the 77W now
SFO-PVG is already being flown with 788 on one flight.



SFO-FRA - Oct 28
SFO-PEK - Oct 28-This will be the last 744 Flight. UA889
SFO-TPE - Oct 28--Think this flight switches to a 77W in august.
SFO-ICN - Oct 29--no idea what they'll fly here after the 744 retires. Maybe the 77W or 789??

Current 744 routes:
SFO-FRA
SFO-LHR
SFO-PEK
SFO-ICN
SFO-TPE
SFO-PVG (one flight)



SFO-ICN goes to a 789. SFO-TPE changes to a 77W August 1st, changes to a 3-cabin 772 March 24, 2018.
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:32 pm

xxcr wrote:
a few of the above flights are wrong.

They were right five months ago when the post was made.
xxcr wrote:
SFO-ICN - Oct 29--no idea what they'll fly here after the 744 retires. Maybe the 77W or 789??

It's showing a 789 in the schedule right now.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:12 pm

adamblang wrote:
xxcr wrote:
a few of the above flights are wrong.

They were right five months ago when the post was made.
xxcr wrote:
SFO-ICN - Oct 29--no idea what they'll fly here after the 744 retires. Maybe the 77W or 789??

It's showing a 789 in the schedule right now.


i just checked, it still shows a 744 for the next few weeks.
 
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Re: UA accelerates 747-400 retirement

Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:14 pm

"I absolutely love the 747, it is truly iconic. However, UA's ones are in terrible shape and are often prone to mechanical delays."

Luckily I've gotten my 747 kicks on Northwest, KLM, and British Airways.

Shame, though - I've flown the 200 and the 300 but never the 400.

Oh well. Too late now. :worried:
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