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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:10 pm

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From this thread
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AA will start service from ORD to GUA effective July 8th

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Guatemala flight wil be operated by a 737-800, saturdays only.
Flight 1340 ORD 10:00 am GUA 1:47pm
Flight 1341 GUA 2:47 pm ORD 7:55pm
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:04 pm

WN started DEN BZE yesterday 11/3/17. Expands to 2Xweek for the summer. First flight arrived and departed packed to its gills.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:54 pm

http://www.nacion.com/economia/consumid ... 37875.html (Spanish only)

The AF flights between CDG and SJO have proven to be a major success. So while the service will remain seasonal, AF has announced an increase in frequency from 2 to 3 flights per week for the upcoming winter 2017/18 season. All flights to be operated by the 77W in a 468 seat configuration with 14 business class, 32 economy plus and 422 economy class seats (look for the ones in the "Carribean configuration" on Seatguru). Service resumes on October 28 2017 until April 30 2018 and flights will depart CDG on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays.

If this keeps up, could we see an increase to a yearround service in the future?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:29 am

juanchito wrote:
Guatemala flight wil be operated by a 737-800, saturdays only.
Flight 1340 ORD 10:00 am GUA 1:47pm
Flight 1341 GUA 2:47 pm ORD 7:55pm


I have always thought Chicago is not a large O&D market for Central America, compared to South Florida, New York City or Los Angeles metropolitan area.
The upcoming weekly flight proves my hypothesis.
The former TACA used to fly direct flights between Chicago and Guatemala City before.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:06 pm

SJOtoLIR wrote:
juanchito wrote:
Guatemala flight wil be operated by a 737-800, saturdays only.
Flight 1340 ORD 10:00 am GUA 1:47pm
Flight 1341 GUA 2:47 pm ORD 7:55pm


I have always thought Chicago is not a large O&D market for Central America, compared to South Florida, New York City or Los Angeles metropolitan area.
The upcoming weekly flight proves my hypothesis.
The former TACA used to fly direct flights between Chicago and Guatemala City before.

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Yes, TACA flight was 3 weekly and up to 4 weekly on high season.
Flights will operate only 7 times from 08JUL17 to 19AUG17.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:06 pm

According to Prensa Libre t appears that Guatemala and Honduras have signed an agreement, in line with the customs union between the two countries, where flights between the two countries will be considered domestic decreasing fees and paperwork and hopefully drive fares down.

Initially it will only apply for flights between certain designated airports; for Guatemala it will be GUA, FRS, AAZ, and RER and for Honduras TGU, SAP, LCE and RTB. It's interesting that Guatemala didn't include PBR to start.

Link in Spanish http://www.prensalibre.com/economia/a-p ... an-locales
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:15 pm

I still haven't understood that treaty when I read about it on Twitter. By considering flights between e.g. GUA and TGU domestic, it is like domestic, no immigration and customs checks, right? Or is it like flights between other EU countries and the UK, where they have just a simple document check (e.g. with an ID card or passport) at the border, along with a blue lane for customs?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:36 pm

dabpit wrote:
yellowtail wrote:
Its almost announcement time of the year again. Any speculation on AS, B6, WS, WN forays into the region or new CM / AV services to North America?

My picks
WN: FLL to BOG, PTY, and GUA
MCO to BOG and PTY

B6: FLL to CLO, PTY, MGA, GUA, LIR, SAL, and TZA
It would be nice to see Spirit increase frequencies to existing destinations and Frontier to more international service.

As for CM, I am willing to bet (probably not all this year) PIT, AUS, DFW, SAN, PHX, CAY, CUZ, LPB, PBM, and as the Brazilian economy recovers BEL, SLZ, SSA, CWB, FLN.



Why not CM to BOS ?
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:48 am

Copa Airlines already flies to Boston.
Based on the records of the Cent Am aviation thread, CM PTY-BOS 7x weekly started in July 2013.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:24 pm

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I still haven't understood that treaty when I read about it on Twitter. By considering flights between e.g. GUA and TGU domestic, it is like domestic, no immigration and customs checks, right? Or is it like flights between other EU countries and the UK, where they have just a simple document check (e.g. with an ID card or passport) at the border, along with a blue lane for customs?


As I understood it, the agreement will start like EU and the UK and the idea is to migrate to something like Schengen. To start Guatemalan and Honduran pax will be given their own immigration line so they will check documents, and simplified paperwork for flights.

Facilidades y Beneficios del Reglamento:

1. Simplificación de los trámites técnicos y administrativos de las operaciones aéreas referentes a permisos de explotación, certificados operativos y licencias aeronáuticas.
2. Apertura de mercados para las líneas aéreas de ambos Estados.
3. Modernización de los procedimientos operativos para las operaciones aéreas, relativas al Plan de vuelo, comunicaciones aeronáuticas y permisos de aterrizajes conforme a los lineamientos vigentes de la OACI.
4. Libre circulación para la aviación privada eliminando los procedimientos administrativos.
5. Unificación de información del Registro Aeronáutico entre Guatemala y Honduras.
6. Promoción y facilitación del desarrollo turístico, cultural, económico y comercial.
7. Facilitar entre ambos países el acceso al mercado de transporte aéreo.
8. Abrir nuevas oportunidades de explotación aérea a operadores aéreos hondureños.
9. Ofrecer y facilitar al usuario el acceso a nuevos destinos.
10. Proporcionar a los usuarios conforme la oferta y demanda mejores condiciones en la adquisición de boletos aéreos.
11. Las autoridades migratorias habilitaran en los aeropuertos designados, cabinas especiales para el registro migratorio de las salidas y entradas de los ciudadanos hondureños y guatemaltecos, para los vuelos domésticos.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:59 am

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Here's a question: How far ahead are airlines in implementing the new system that automatically charges the exit tax with the ticket? Have all airlines flying to/from SJO (including codeshares, dunno about LIR) implemented this.

Here's the comprehensive list.
The picture speaks by itself:

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:14 pm

[/quote]
Here's the comprehensive list.
The picture speaks by itself:

Image

Regards.[/quote]


no BA?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:11 am

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no BA?
Maybe they charge it via their oneWorld partners IB and AA?? Or else, that board is outdated.

I was just checking Flightradar24 and I saw that this Saturday is the final goodbye of the A346 from SJO. From Sunday on, IB is sending the A332. Maybe we'll see them as subs every now and then, but since the A340 is on the way out, it may be just a random thing.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:37 am

Too short of a season for ORD-GUA, but A fit effort. More than DTW has, and I'm sure we will hear about that for months.
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:17 am

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Too short of a season for ORD-GUA, but A fit effort. More than DTW has, and I'm sure we will hear about that for months.


Cmon sir/madam don't give the DTW trols a reason to ruin our Central American Aviation topic. It's chill around here, full of information and while slow sometimes, it's good. Don't feed the trolls, we do not want them ruining this one.

PS why don't you open a topic called DTW complaining thread and let em vent their frustration\hate for DL, the WCAA and anyone who doesn't love DTW, in that way they don't ruin the site for the rest of us.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:22 am

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Here's the comprehensive list.

Spirit is absent on that board as well.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:01 pm

[/quote]Maybe they charge it via their oneWorld partners IB and AA?? Or else, that board is outdated .[/quote]

Wingo is on there so it must be reasonably current
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:01 pm

Duplicate post. Sorry
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:02 pm

For those tracking the first IB A330 to SJO, please note that IB 6313 has been cancelled, and replaced with IB 6315 for today. ETA is 15:18 hrs CST. The aircraft is EC-MNL, which is barely four months old.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:27 pm

I wonder why the down-gauged the route. Too much competition with the entry of Air France and other European carriers?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:32 pm

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I wonder why the down-gauged the route. Too much competition with the entry of Air France and other European carriers?
AFAIK they're getting rid of the A340s, including the -600. And I guess the A332 is the only aircraft that has the range for making MAD-SJO with decent payload. Not to mention that AF only flies to SJO during the winter season (though next winter season, thrice weekly and still with the 77W). DE uses 767s, BA 77Es and neither flies daily. IB is the only European carrier flying daily to SJO.

Now, if IB has A350s on order, they could send those to SJO and PTY instead of the A330s.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:53 am

As far as I know the A340-600's are not being retired.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:27 am

Air France is expending into Central America later on this year. They are planning to add CDG-SAL by the end of the year on the Boeing 787-9 dreamliner.
Delta Air Lines is also planning to add an additional flight to ATL and daily service on a larger aircraft to LAX.

I like that the Skyteam Alliance is expanding it presence in Central America.
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:37 am

What? Where are you getting this information from? Although it would be great for SAL to get AF, I really don't think it's happening anytime soon.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:42 pm

I had never thought about Air France in Costa Rica, since Panama City experienced the dual service on both KL AMS-PTY and AF CDG-PTY.
Based on earlier inputs, AF CDG-SJO has been a big smash as they're increasing their services from 2x to 3x weekly for the next season.
I even have my doubts concerning to Air France in El Salvador. Let's wait and watch carefully ! ;)

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:03 am

I wish AA would run ORD-GUA longer. Maybe UA will try this given there success (seasonal) to BZE, LIR, SJO, and Caribbean islands. There is some O&D from Chicago to GUA, but the market from Chicago is extremely seasonal (2x daily in winter, lucky for once a week in summer).
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:54 pm

Volaris will start thursdays flights from MEX to GUA on A320

09:05 MEX - GUA 10:05 4 320
11:23 GUA - MEX 14:20 4 320

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:53 pm

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Volaris will start thursdays flights from MEX to GUA on A320

It seems like few competition for both 5D/AM GUA-MEX 21x weekly and 4O GUA-MEX 14x weekly.
In my view, Volaris should have focused their intended services in other Mexican destinations like Guadalajara and Cancun.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:19 pm

SJOtoLIR wrote:
juanchito wrote:
Volaris will start thursdays flights from MEX to GUA on A320

It seems like few competition for both 5D/AM GUA-MEX 21x weekly and 4O GUA-MEX 14x weekly.
In my view, Volaris should have focused their intended services in other Mexican destinations like Guadalajara and Cancun.


In fact 5D/AM GUA-MEX is 28x weekly
Volaris GUA-GDL started in 2 weekly and now it is 4 weekly
Volaris GUA-CUN started in 2 weekly and now it is 3 weekly

I think they made their homework and some of their customers from MEX fly via GDL and CUN.
Hope they increase frequencies in the MEX route.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:34 pm

NCavi8tor wrote:
Air France is expending into Central America later on this year. They are planning to add CDG-SAL by the end of the year on the Boeing 787-9 dreamliner.
Delta Air Lines is also planning to add an additional flight to ATL and daily service on a larger aircraft to LAX.

I like that the Skyteam Alliance is expanding it presence in Central America.


That sounds rather unlikely to be honest. And I'm usually open to hearing about potential new routes. Do you have any evidence for this? A link, source etc...
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:55 pm

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NCavi8tor wrote:
Air France is expending into Central America later on this year. They are planning to add CDG-SAL by the end of the year on the Boeing 787-9 dreamliner.
Delta Air Lines is also planning to add an additional flight to ATL and daily service on a larger aircraft to LAX.

I like that the Skyteam Alliance is expanding it presence in Central America.


That sounds rather unlikely to be honest. And I'm usually open to hearing about potential new routes. Do you have any evidence for this? A link, source etc...


You beat me to it. I have a family member whose flying out from LAX to SAL in late August and it still shows Delta using a 738.
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:22 am

Air France has approved SAL as alternate airport in C.A.
The only advantage of SAL is that it can be feeder thanks to Avianca
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:27 am

Its happening, Air France is coming to San Salvador all with a new code-share agreement with Avianca Airlines.
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:39 pm

Avianca will launch a third daily flight from GUA to SJO with ATR72 equipment, starting June 1.

18:30 GUA - 20:52 SJO D ATR72
06:30 SJO - 08:55 GUA D ATR72
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:42 pm

This is interesting, considering how most of AV's ATR flights from GUA always go half empty.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:19 pm

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This is interesting, considering how most of AV's ATR flights from GUA always go half empty.


Do you have statistics for this flights ?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:18 am

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5D/AM GUA-MEX is 28x weekly
Volaris GUA-GDL started in 2 weekly and now it is 4 weekly
Volaris GUA-CUN started in 2 weekly and now it is 3 weekly


I wasn't aware of that.
Are all their AeroMexico flights into the GUA-MEX segment being operated by AeroMexico Connect on behalf of AeroMexico mainline ?










Sansa from Costa Rica is operating additional domestic, on board Cessna aircraft.
The existing San Jose - Limon sector will be extended to Tortuguero.

RZ 1046 LIO 07.45 - 08.05 TTQ Daily
RZ 1042 TTQ 14.50 - 15.10 LIO Daily
Effective: March 06 - April 30.



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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:52 am

JetBlue is adding service to Guatemala City this upcoming year on the A320-200 from Ft. Lauderdale
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:34 pm

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JetBlue is adding service to Guatemala City this upcoming year on the A320-200 from Ft. Lauderdale


Do you have a source for this?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:38 pm

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juanchito wrote:
5D/AM GUA-MEX is 28x weekly
Volaris GUA-GDL started in 2 weekly and now it is 4 weekly
Volaris GUA-CUN started in 2 weekly and now it is 3 weekly


I wasn't aware of that.
Are all their AeroMexico flights into the GUA-MEX segment being operated by AeroMexico Connect on behalf of AeroMexico mainline ?


Yes all flights ops are with AeroMexico Connect with E190
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:45 pm

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JetBlue is adding service to Guatemala City this upcoming year on the A320-200 from Ft. Lauderdale



How do you know this? It would not be surprising and we would all be thrilled, but how do you know this?
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:11 am

There is an inauguration of Puerto Barrios International airport tomorrow. Doesn't TAG already fly there?
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017

Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:57 am

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There is an inauguration of Puerto Barrios International airport tomorrow. Doesn't TAG already fly there?

Yes, regular flights started back in January.

Also it appears that TAG is selling Wamos flights on their web page.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017

Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:08 pm

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There is an inauguration of Puerto Barrios International airport tomorrow. Doesn't TAG already fly there?


Yes flights are operated by E110 Monday - Friday.
On the inauguration Tropic will be present and are interested on flights to Puerto Barrios.

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Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:27 pm

[/quote]

Yes flights are operated by E110 Monday - Friday.
On the inauguration Tropic will be present and are interested on flights to Puerto Barrios.

Juanchito[/quote]

We'll TAG already announced bze from barrios too but that that will be pretty thin and perhaps they will be relying on Thru traffic to Gua too. The market is more from southern belize (like PND) but I don't know if those airports can handle Anything international.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017

Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:41 pm

Maybe the will codeshare GUA-PBR-BZE just like GUA-FRS-BZE

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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017

Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:44 pm

Volaris CR will start this flights subject to government approval

Starts June 19
Twice a week, Mondays and Fridays
Q6 4020 SAL 09:07 am - GUA 09:57 am
Q6 4021 GUA 10:37 am - SAL 11:27 am

Starts June 21
Twice a week, Wednesdays and Sundays
Q6 4018 SAL 08:43 am - MGA 09:45 am
Q6 4019 MGA 10:25 am - SAL 11:27 am
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017

Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:38 pm

Not directly related to flights, but it seems that travel agencies in Costa Rica are getting a bad rep by the day. First, a travel agency that botched the charters for the Mexico-Costa Rica football match a few weeks ago, even leaving people stranded because the airline was never paid, then a travel agency that suddenly cancelled bookings for trips to e.g. Orlando during Holy Week, apparently because of issues with their providers (the chartered airline cancelled the flight and they didn't seem to be able to hire another airline or rebook people on scheduled flights), now another travel agency that left 50 people stranded on their way to Cuba, because according to CU, the flight was overbooked.

https://www.crhoy.com/nacionales/mas-de ... a-la-sele/
https://www.crhoy.com/economia/otra-mas ... -permisos/
https://www.crhoy.com/nacionales/otro-c ... je-a-cuba/

The first travel agency basically shut down overnight, the second one was missing required permits from the Ministry of Economy. In those first two cases, they should see if they can press charges for fraud or anything that can be prosecuted in a penal or in a civil trial. In the case of the third issue, I'm not really sure. It's no secret that airlines overbook flights. The question is whether CU allows those overbookings given their limited amount of flights? In the article, they did say that a CU aircraft that arrived on SJO last Wednesday went AOG and the missing part for the repair had not arrived yet. If that's so, maybe the travel agency could have rebooked them or refunded them. But did they know in advance or did CU just not inform them? Therefore, in this third case, it's unclear if the travel agency is to blame, or CU for not informing the travel agency.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:58 pm

NCavi8tor wrote:
Its happening, Air France is coming to San Salvador all with a new code-share agreement with Avianca Airlines.

That would be nice, CDG-SJO was only seasonal,(2 weekly flights) and if the flight had good numbers, CDG-SAL with a code-share agreement with Avianca to all Central America, will be a succesfull operation.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017

Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:11 pm

http://news.klm.com/klm-to-start-direct ... -san-jose/

It's official: KL is finally returning to SJO! They will fly twice weekly (Tuesday and Friday) during the winter season starting October 31st to SJO. The new service will also become the first scheduled service to SJO with the 787, as KL chose the 787-9 with a 294 seat configuration (30 World Business Class, 45 Economy Comfort, 219 Economy). AMS-SJO departs on 15:25 hrs and lands at 20:05 hrs. SJO-AMS departs at 22:05 hrs and lands at 15:10 hrs +1.

I still cannot see the flight numbers, but I pray this flight becomes year round!!
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