piedmontf284000 wrote:It's true you that one would have to connect if they going to MNL from ORD or IAH. The issue becomes if that if one is using PR to travel to southeast Asia and not just the Philippines then it becomes an exhausting experience...and that's if one is originating out of ORD or IAH.
No more exhausting if one were to travel with other airlines who offer two-stop options with lengthy layovers for 'dirt cheap' fares.
piedmontf284000 wrote:Now imagine if someone from Kentucky Missouri Oklahoma Louisiana etc was using UA to interconnect with PR to travel to Vietnam or some other southeastern Asia destination. Now it's a three stop journey. Very time consuming.
Obviously, the traveler would choose that which hurt his wallet or his body less, depending on his circumstances.
piedmontf284000 wrote:So based on that, it would seem to me that PR is banking on just O&D traffic out of ORD and IAH, which doesn't seem like there is enough demand.
According to a poster in the other thread, bookings from IAH were in MNL's favor. Not surprising since Filipino presence there is not too far below NY/NJ areas.
piedmontf284000 wrote:In addition if one has to stop in YVR to get to MNL on PR then what's the incentive of using them (outside of price or schedule) when they can take any number of the existing Asian carriers, UA or AA and then connect in HKG PEK NRT etc.
Same plane convenience -- especially for the elderly? In addition to service standards, are there any other more compelling reasons besides these?
piedmontf284000 wrote:Add to that the amount of Asian carriers already at ORD and the yields will be awful.
People were saying the same things when PR launched the tag-ons to YYZ and JFK. Those are now upgauged to 77Ws. Soon both will be flown nonstop with 77W and A359 respectively. Other carriers' "garbage fares" as another poster put it, may be PR's golden ticket. Why let the competition have unfettered run of your market and get your custom when you can give them a taste of their own medicine?
And if Airbus were successful in making the mooted 251T A339neo truly TPAC capable, then there's the lower capex equipment that would make MNL-YVR/ORD/IAH more sustainable. Who knows, a similar A338 weight variant might finally make MNL-SAN nonstop viable, even if it would need to go via YVR westbound should it not be able to fill tanks on the return due to runway/terrain issues.
After immigration officers, more welcome news for NAIA.....
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http://businessmirror.com.ph/government ... t-at-naia/
"Airport authorities have recruited new air traffic controllers (ATCs) to replace some of the retirees, now reportedly in their 70s and 80s, who were rehired by the government in the past due to the lack of licensed ATCs.
Some 20 newly trained ATCs were dispatched across the four airport passenger terminals of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia) this month to undergo further hands-on training, according to sources. These ramp controllers were initially trained by the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (Caap) under a “special arrangement”. Naia General Manager Ed Monreal said that, as far as he knows, the trainees started work last week of August."