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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:50 pm

TK787 wrote:
Any ideas why TK1753 Istanbul-Oslo flight is operated by a 77W today?
https://www.flightradar24.com/THY1MS/c935b72

:o :o :o Very strange to see an international TK route being operated by a narrow body randomly bump up into a 77W. I can't come up with a good reason. Reminds me when TK sent 2 A332s to DUB over the summer randomly. The other Oslo flight is being operated by an A332 today too.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:19 pm

Just a small note: ALL Pegasus flights out of Adana (ADA) are now being operated out of International terminal. I asked the reason to an airline employee and was told this is due to congestion at domestic terminal. It makes total sense as the terminal area is ridiculously small for such a (relatively) busy airport...

Pegasus was kind enough so send us an SMS prior to the flight but I saw many people running in between two terminals :)
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:27 pm

TK787 wrote:
Any ideas why TK1753 Istanbul-Oslo flight is operated by a 77W today?
https://www.flightradar24.com/THY1MS/c935b72

Probably big cargo loads
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:08 am

TK787 wrote:
Any ideas why TK1753 Istanbul-Oslo flight is operated by a 77W today?
https://www.flightradar24.com/THY1MS/c935b72


Being a little bit more inquisitive, I also found out that yesterday's (26th Feb) morning flight was done with a A332. Today and to-morrow all flights are scheduled with A321, as routine...

There must be some big cargo load of Norwegian fish to be carried to Istanbul. :P
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:09 am

TK787 wrote:
Any ideas why TK1753 Istanbul-Oslo flight is operated by a 77W today?
https://www.flightradar24.com/THY1MS/c935b72


Being a little bit more inquisitive, I also found out that yesterday's (26th Feb) morning flight was done with a A332. Today and to-morrow all flights are scheduled with A321, as routine...

There must be some big cargo load of Norwegian fish to be carried to Istanbul. :P
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:40 pm

Last week was winter holiday in many parts of Norway. Maybe that can be the reason for the widebodies? AFAIK the 777 was in Oslo last weekend also.
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:09 am

TC-JOC, the A330-303 which crash landed in KTM back in 2015, is officially gone. Scrapping started and completed back in December 2016. There is a controversial plan by Bed Upreti Trust to set up a museum in Katmandu to house the A330 remains. The same trust has an ex-Cosmic Air F-100 displayed at a museum in Dhangadhi.

Scrapping process pictures: http://www.airporthaber.com/thy-haberle ... landi.html
Plan to set up mueseum at KTM: http://kathmandupost.ekantipur.com/news ... lease.html
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:50 am

TK787 wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
TK787 wrote:

From what I can find out, here is the TK 183 timeline:
-4:40pm heading 227deg at 400kt @ 38,000
-4:44pm heading 227deg at 400kt @32,000 (I think somewhere here they lost the engine)
-4:48pm heading 242deg at 380kt @30,000 (I think this is where they changed route for IAD)
-5:41 to 6:50pm............... at 350kt @26,000
-7:12pm landed at IAD
So, after assuming that they lost one engine around 4:40pm, TK 183 continued on to IAD for about 2.5 hrs.
From what I can find out; at the point of losing that engine the plane was 2216km from Havana and only 1189km from IAD.
Probably our pilot friends here can chime in, but it took TK183 around 2.5hrs to travel 1189km on one engine to IAD.
Using those numbers, it would have taken them over 4.5 hours to fly to Havana, if they had enough fuel on board.

Further research, I found out that A330 burns average 5.5 tons fuel an hour. Toward the end of the trip, (since the plane is lighter) probably less.
From the Airbus330 Handbook it says, if your plane is 200tons and you loose an engine go down to 22,000 and 380kts to minimize fuel burn. TK 183 by going down to 26,000 feet and 350kts optimized its fuel burn and was using around 6 tons of fuel an hour.
If all my calculations are good.... yes you are correct, it would have made it to Havana on one engine in 4.5 hours by burning .5 tons more fuel an hour than usual, which they would have carried in their reserves. But like I said earlier, ETOPS or not, this emergency requires landing at the nearest suitable airfield.


All I have to say: "Don't quit your day job" :)
Airplanes, when they suffer engine failures, they drift down to a lower altitude to make it to their emergency landing point. This is a bit more dramatic on a dual engine plane vs. quad.

I am sure the crew had all the options in mind and consulted the techs back in Istanbul as well.
Continuation to MIA required running the last engine a lot longer than the IAD option.

Here's the AvHerald article about it..

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4a552a6a&opt=0
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:59 am

Is it a new route or?
It says "the new offering"

Turkish Airlines in summer season continues to expand operations to Russia, including the new offering of Istanbul Ataturk – Samara route. From 11APR17, Boeing 737-900ER will operate this route 3 times a week.

TK487 IST2030 – 0055+1KUF 73J 246
TK488 KUF0205 – 0445IST 73J 357
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:56 pm

EvrenErdem wrote:
Is it a new route or?
It says "the new offering"

Turkish Airlines in summer season continues to expand operations to Russia, including the new offering of Istanbul Ataturk – Samara route. From 11APR17, Boeing 737-900ER will operate this route 3 times a week.

TK487 IST2030 – 0055+1KUF 73J 246
TK488 KUF0205 – 0445IST 73J 357


Yes, TK will add Voronezh and Samara from April 2017.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:55 pm

Why would this website use IST and TK plane's picture when the article's title is "America's worst airline in 2017"?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-wo ... 2017-02-28
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2017

Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:50 pm

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