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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:51 am

Boof02671 wrote:
I have non-revved from LGA-GSP before 9/11 on US.


Cool story, bro. That have anything to do with the topic here?
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:52 am

GSP psgr wrote:
As a side note, AA is also going to be offering MD-80 service on the CHS-DFW route, which parallels the new GSP-DFW mainline service.


Wow. That's cool - first time AA mainline/MD80s have been on these routes in decades.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:11 am

Polot wrote:
GSP psgr wrote:
saeswank wrote:
On the schedule, MD80 starts on April 4 to May 4th DFW-GSP. Might be the first time mainline AA at GSP in a long time. They used to have US Air 737 daily to CLT back around 2000.


Before 9/11, GSP saw mainline on US Airways to both PHL and CLT; I'm slightly surprised we haven't seen AA reconnect GSP to ORD post merger (this hasn't been a phenomenon limited to GSP; GSO, CHS, CAE, BHM, and SAV don't see ORD service either).

The ORD hub offers nothing that CLT, PHL, and DFW hubs can't offer for those markets, and they don't have the O&D to make a ORD nonstop worthwhile.

Don't forget gate space. I think AA might want to connect the dots to ORD, but from what I understand AA's terminal is close to full
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:50 am

AA is out of gates at ORD. Re-banking has made it tighter. This is why there are frequency decreases on some routes, but they upgraded to mainline with a seat increase in some cases.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:00 am

IADCA wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
I have non-revved from LGA-GSP before 9/11 on US.


Cool story, bro. That have anything to do with the topic here?


saeswank wrote:
Northwest1988 wrote:
There are rumors that GSP, which is currently all RJ, will see the MD-80 on the GSP-DFW route this April! I'm hearing different reasons. One is to cover the high demand, and the other is due to mesa flying their planes on some other routes. Either way I would love to see the MD-80s here even for just a short time! They have not flown that route since the early 1990s. Can anyone confirm?

On the schedule, MD80 starts on April 4 to May 4th DFW-GSP. Might be the first time mainline AA at GSP in a long time. They used to have US Air 737 daily to CLT back around 2000.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:12 am

globalcabotage wrote:
My sources have been dead on with the MD80 draw down. ORD is where it should be as is DFW. The non ORD/DFW routes will disappear soon. RDU, MSP, TUS, and a few others will be in the long run.

Also, schedules past 4.1 are placeholders, so don't book a flight expecting a MadDog.



Good to know. When do the post-4/1 schedules become set in stone? I'll be booking a TUS trip for April, so need to do everything possible to ensure it's an MD80. :biggrin:
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:32 am

Boeing778X wrote:

For FY17, here is what AA plans on during to not only the MD-80s, but the rest of the fleet as well.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zht ... 01Nw%3d%3d

And I lied when I said a -20 drop around 2Q17, it says 3Q17 rather.


A couple of insiders on this forum long predicted the fleet would remain active beyond year-end 2017 and into 2018. This link seems to confirm that. Good news for the apparent small reprieve - I'll take it!

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know this summer they are flying the MD-80 on ORD-EWR and ORD-TUS


I really hope the ORD-EWR scheduling holds up for this summer. I'm assuming most routes will be consistent until the next large, post-summer draw-down

globalcabotage wrote:
AA is out of gates at ORD. Re-banking has made it tighter. This is why there are frequency decreases on some routes, but they upgraded to mainline with a seat increase in some cases.
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The question is, how will ORD look like after the Q3 draw-down? MSP, DTW, STL, DEN, RDU are perfect MD80 routes. So will AA trim the "fat" out of DFW where 738/A32X/E175s may be better suited, or will AA phase-down ORD further? I'm hoping for the former.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:43 am

Update: Since this topic began, the MD80 has been added to ORD-MSY.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:05 am

They also make a return once a day on ORD-MCI (as AA99 dep ORD 13:50) later in the year. When this starts I'm not sure - but they are certainly in the timetable for the Northern summer months.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:14 am

We are flying an MD 80 back from ZIH to DFW, looking forward to it. Blocked for 3h45m which I'd think is one of the longer MD 80 routes left for AA.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:25 am

Good news on MCI. I may need to do a weekend bbq trip. :)

Looks like they're back on ORD-SAT, AA1453 18:05 departure.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:00 am

Wow, ZIH-DFW is quite a haul. I'm surprised this isn't a 738, with the MD80 freed up for ORD-AUS, or the like.

Enjoy your trip!
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:22 am

This week the MD80 returned to ORD-TPA after a 7-month absence. I did not think this route was going to comeback. Are we starting to see a small amount of DFW utilization transfer to ORD? Perhaps STL draw-down as well.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:44 pm

Is CMH- DFW still MD 80s CVG- DFW will be MD 80s for now
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:59 pm

Even though American Airlines will receive additional 737-800, 737 MAX 8, A321, and A321neo planes, there are some routes that American currently operates using MD-80s that might be too big for regional jets but too small for 737-800, 737 MAX 8, A321, or A321neo planes.

Will American Airlines order A319neo or 737 MAX 7 planes in order to fill in the void after the retirement of its MD-80 planes? The A319neo is the same size as the A319, and the 737 MAX 7 is slightly larger than the A319, A319neo, and 737-700. The seating capacity of the 737 MAX 7 is approximately 138 seats which is 2 seats fewer than American's MD-80 planes.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:54 pm

jplatts wrote:
Even though American Airlines will receive additional 737-800, 737 MAX 8, A321, and A321neo planes, there are some routes that American currently operates using MD-80s that might be too big for regional jets but too small for 737-800, 737 MAX 8, A321, or A321neo planes.

Will American Airlines order A319neo or 737 MAX 7 planes in order to fill in the void after the retirement of its MD-80 planes? The A319neo is the same size as the A319, and the 737 MAX 7 is slightly larger than the A319, A319neo, and 737-700. The seating capacity of the 737 MAX 7 is approximately 138 seats which is 2 seats fewer than American's MD-80 planes.



They could place an A319 on the route.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:03 am

I would think STL would be one of the last to see MD80 service. AFAIK, STL still does RON mx on the MD80s, so I suspect it’ll remain among the last stations.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:35 am

jplatts wrote:
Even though American Airlines will receive additional 737-800, 737 MAX 8, A321, and A321neo planes, there are some routes that American currently operates using MD-80s that might be too big for regional jets but too small for 737-800, 737 MAX 8, A321, or A321neo planes.

Will American Airlines order A319neo or 737 MAX 7 planes in order to fill in the void after the retirement of its MD-80 planes? The A319neo is the same size as the A319, and the 737 MAX 7 is slightly larger than the A319, A319neo, and 737-700. The seating capacity of the 737 MAX 7 is approximately 138 seats which is 2 seats fewer than American's MD-80 planes.

I seriously doubt it. This is the CSeries gap (I hope ;) )
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:37 am

For an airplane that's dwindling out of the fleet I still see what seems like a ton of those things coming into ORD. I live out near Naperville and the ORD arrival streams from the southwest go right over my house and seems like I always hear and see the MD80s pretty much anytime I'm outside. Always a pleasant site. Most of the time I'll check my FR24 app and yeah it's from DFW and is usually a Ex-TWA jet.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:10 am

CVG will soon be seeing MD80s. I assume that will change to something else when they are retired...
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:40 am

727LOVER wrote:
KTPAFlyer wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
Where are you getting TPA from? AFAIK, they have been gone OFFICIALLY since mid-August.

Granted, a few have popped in but I think they are subs.


Not yet, still shows some to DFW on some random days in March.

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You are correct, sir.

And actually I found another one. Looks like the 1st flight TPA-ORD is an MD-80

The MD80 comes to TPA from DFW and goes to ORD.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:49 am

DeltaMD95 wrote:

A couple of insiders on this forum long predicted the fleet would remain active beyond year-end 2017 and into 2018. This link seems to confirm that. Good news for the apparent small reprieve - I'll take it!


I'll admit to eating a bit of crow (being wrong). I didn't think MD-80s would last past the end of 2017 at AA. As I have posted before, I'm happy to be wrong. :)

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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:33 am

Over the last few weeks, TPA has had 2 MD-80 flights. One to ORD leaving around 8:50 in the morning and an afternoon flight to DFW leaving around 3:30
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:44 pm

ahj2000 wrote:
jplatts wrote:
Even though American Airlines will receive additional 737-800, 737 MAX 8, A321, and A321neo planes, there are some routes that American currently operates using MD-80s that might be too big for regional jets but too small for 737-800, 737 MAX 8, A321, or A321neo planes.

Will American Airlines order A319neo or 737 MAX 7 planes in order to fill in the void after the retirement of its MD-80 planes? The A319neo is the same size as the A319, and the 737 MAX 7 is slightly larger than the A319, A319neo, and 737-700. The seating capacity of the 737 MAX 7 is approximately 138 seats which is 2 seats fewer than American's MD-80 planes.

I seriously doubt it. This is the CSeries gap (I hope ;) )


Why would American want to choose to order the CSeries over the A319neo or 737 MAX 7 if American already operates both 737 and A320 family aircraft and if the 737 MAX 7 has higher seating capacity than the CS300 or A319neo in a 2-class configuration? Some of the routes where American flies the MD-80 might be too big for regional jets, A319, and CSeries airplanes but too small for A320, 737-800, or 737 MAX 8 airplanes.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:58 pm

ICT has one MD80 flight per day from DFW. It overnights in ICT.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:21 pm

DeltaMD95 wrote:
Good news on MCI. I may need to do a weekend bbq trip. :)

Looks like they're back on ORD-SAT, AA1453 18:05 departure.


Yes you should! For a while we used to see nothing but MD's from AA here at MCI.

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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:42 am

ahj2000 wrote:
Polot wrote:
GSP psgr wrote:

Before 9/11, GSP saw mainline on US Airways to both PHL and CLT; I'm slightly surprised we haven't seen AA reconnect GSP to ORD post merger (this hasn't been a phenomenon limited to GSP; GSO, CHS, CAE, BHM, and SAV don't see ORD service either).

The ORD hub offers nothing that CLT, PHL, and DFW hubs can't offer for those markets, and they don't have the O&D to make a ORD nonstop worthwhile.

Don't forget gate space. I think AA might want to connect the dots to ORD, but from what I understand AA's terminal is close to full


AA will get 6 additional gates at ORD once the extension of concourse L is completed.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:14 am

WROORD wrote:

AA will get 6 additional gates at ORD once the extension of concourse L is completed.


Those are going to be E175 and smaller gates, not mainline.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:30 am

Boeing778X wrote:
miaami wrote:
Boeing778X wrote:
DFW-ABQ has seen a decrease in the presence of the S80. Only 1-2 flights a day are the type, the rest being 738s or Mesa CRJ9s.

At some point around the end of 2Q 2017, another 20 will be retired.


Is there an offical retirement schedule for the AA MD-80s? I have read several different retirement dates for the aircraft, anywhere from the end of 2017 to well into 2018.


For FY17, here is what AA plans on during to not only the MD-80s, but the rest of the fleet as well.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zht ... 01Nw%3d%3d

And I lied when I said a -20 drop around 2Q17, it says 3Q17 rather.


Holy moly, that is a large reduction in 757's. I guess after the summer most if not all of the domestic LAA ones at least are off to the desert.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:21 am

They are still flying mad dogs on the DFW-MSP run, at least into sept 2017.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:16 am

Very curious on what the final AA MD80 flight will be.
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:01 pm

kordcj wrote:
Those are going to be E175 and smaller gates, not mainline.


True, although some of those gates could plausibly be used to operate E175s presently operated on mainline-capable gates on H/K, thus freeing them up for use (once again) by mainline.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:01 pm

I would have suspected BNA would be one of the last cities to see them. It appears most everything is now a 73H, a 319 and 1-2 Mad Dogs.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:35 pm

Here's a list of all the current MD80 routes updated weekly: http://layoverhub.net/remaining-america ... 80-routes/
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:50 pm

Saw one depart MCO yesterday.......may have been a sub
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:46 pm

I have been trying to snag as many MSP-ORD flights on MD80's as I can. Coincidently they are much easier to get upgraded on than the 737's.

In any event, i keep track of my tail numbers, and have been getting a lot of ex TWA birds lately. N971TW, N980TW, N962TW. i haven't gotten a non TWA plane since late January. The MD80's that serve MSP-ORD, seem to operate captive, and make 10-20 roundtrips in a row.

I was able to book RDU-ORD this month on an MD80, haven't flown that route before.

Will be sad to see them go.

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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:31 pm

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Very curious on what the final AA MD80 flight will be.

Well said. I too wonder as it is stretching out.

You see, I used to work in the MD-80 part supply chain. When AA stopped ordering, they declared they had enough parts for the rest of their MD-80 needs. But no one outside of AA knows how many parts they stockpiled. The rest of the industry expected AA to sell off a *huge* number of surplus parts before AA extended their retirement schedule. Because no one knows, it has created a huge amount of uncertainty in the aftermarket part market as people expected AA to broadcast a bit more information on what parts they were short of. Instead, AA just isn't selling the parts their analysis says they should have a stockpile.

DL was much more direct. They went out, after AA declared they were done buying parts, and bought what they needed for their estimated MD-80 operating timeline. Vendors had no uncertainty, DL pretty much plans to consume all they have. A few parts DL under-estimated and those parts they've bought 2nd hand; boy has that driven up the prices of anything DL under-bought. This is a fascinating case of supply and demand working.

Then there is Allegiant. They have a huge stockpile, but in my opinion they haven't done the level of analysis of AA or DL. Much more panic buying here. Yes, they buy used airframes, but some parts are starting to become so scarce that *all* used airframes have pretty worn versions of that part with limited life left. I believe this is why Allegiant announced an earlier retirement. For just as a convoy goes as the slowest ships, the MD-80 will cease flying when any one required part isn't available.

But vendors will sell parts, just at a *huge* markup from the old Douglas (inherited by Boeing) contracts. I know of one scarce part, required for flight, that was $1,700 under the Douglas contract is now sold by the same vendor $8,000 from the vendor. Too much? Well, they know once they run out they'll have to make another small batch where it will cost them $2,000 to make each part due to the (now) extreamly low volumes for parts and that that last batch probably won't sell out. :( So it might be that $8,000 might be selling at a loss. That is the flip side of manufacturing economies of scale. Oh, same vendor has also increased their rebuilding prices to over $2k. Yikes! But that is because they went 3 years without rebuilding one part. It will cost hours to retrain staff the next time a customer asks for a rebuild.

So how long will AA fly? I do not know. They have gone past the one milestone I thought they wouldn't (nitrogen inerting). You certainly can find older posts where I flat out stated 2017 would be the end of AA MD-80 flying. So my prediction on the AA MD-80s was off.

So now the question is economics, heavily driven by parts.
I do not believe it is economical for AA to perform more than a few more C-checks. The C-check on the MD-80 isn't that expensive, so using a MD-80 even 3 or 4 months pays for the C-check. The limit is parts. My estimate of AA part inventories would let them run a while longer, but only if they limit C-checks.

So my next milestone for AA is within 2 years they will cease operations due to parts limits for C-checks. I hope I'm wrong again. ;)

But economics will drive replacement probably earlier. What AA needs is enough airframes for growth as well as MD-80 replacement. When is enough growth? That is an interesting question I do not know the answer to.

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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:44 pm

I live in the flight path to 17L/C/R (east side of DFW, north to south landings), an AA MD80s have noticeably disappeared the last 6 months.

ORD is actually getting more as stations are phased out and others are routed to both DFW and ORD, hence DFW-TPA-ORD now in routing.

ORD/DFW is the rumored last route, with STL/RDU/BNA and others on the farewell tour.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:16 am

Im hoping to visit Washington in 2018, which I then need to get on to Dallas to visit Southfork ranch.

On the first post of this thread, IAD is a DFW route with the MD. what are the chances I'd get on one?

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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:42 am

August 2019 is when the last MD80s are planned to leave the fleet per AA fleet planners....but always subject to change.
 
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:47 am

August 2019 is when the last MD80s are planned to leave the fleet per AA fleet planners....but always subject to change.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:07 pm

AA returned MD-80 mainline service to GSP today! First time since the early 1990s this route/ aircraft combination has been flown! Exciting to see a retiring aircraft start a new route.

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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:27 pm

I've been checking varous schedues ex-MKE on AA this summer for vacation, and MKE-DFW seems to be almost (if not actually) exclusively MD80 well into July at least. On another subject, is there a way to tell (or does anyone have inside knowledge) what a/c will replace MD80s on routes they're still flying today?
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:06 pm

I told myself I will hold a party when the last AA MD80 is retired. At this rate, it may coincide with my retirement party!
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:00 am

TUSAA wrote:
August 2019 is when the last MD80s are planned to leave the fleet per AA fleet planners....but always subject to change.


Active service extended to August 2019 would be a substantial postponement for what 6 months ago was believed would be taking place. If Q3 2019 is true, this is BIG news.

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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:42 am

DSM-DFW increases to 3 daily MD-80s this summer making that route all mainline. That's the first time DSM-DFW has been all mainline since the 90s, if even then.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:03 am

MD80 is showing up 1x daily ORD-BWI
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:21 am

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I wonder if the ORD MKE flight was an equipment swap. AFAIK ORD-MKE is usually only CR2s.


Wait are there SERIOUSLY Chicago-Milwaukee flights?! You could quite literally take Amtrak for most likely the same amount of time when you consider security at the airports versus Amtrak, they have a stop in Glenview (closer to ORD than Union Station) and is only somewhere in the ballpark of $26 one way.. I dont think even a short flight like that is that cheap. HOW does AA make ANY money off this route? That would be almost as bad as having an BWI-DCA flight. (Not sure there isn't at this point though) My apologies if this is getting off topic.

southwest1675 wrote:
Very curious on what the final AA MD80 flight will be.


I suspect it might be ORD-DFW. Really hate to see this plane go. Its a beautiful airplane and from what I've heard, a true joy to fly. I know I would take an MD-80 series aircraft any day...But alas, these birds are well past their prime and have earned their retirement.
 
jplatts
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:25 am

GatorClark wrote:
GSPSPOT wrote:
I wonder if the ORD MKE flight was an equipment swap. AFAIK ORD-MKE is usually only CR2s.


Wait are there SERIOUSLY Chicago-Milwaukee flights?! You could quite literally take Amtrak for most likely the same amount of time when you consider security at the airports versus Amtrak, they have a stop in Glenview (closer to ORD than Union Station) and is only somewhere in the ballpark of $26 one way.. I dont think even a short flight like that is that cheap. HOW does AA make ANY money off this route? That would be almost as bad as having an BWI-DCA flight. (Not sure there isn't at this point though) My apologies if this is getting off topic.


General Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee is farther from both Chicago airports (ORD and MDW) than Baltimore/Washington International Airport is from Washington Dulles International Airport.
 
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Re: Remaining AA MD-80 Routes

Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:36 am

MD80s have mostly disappeared from AUS. A few MD80 flights remain to DFW and ORD. It wasn't long ago when every AA flight in AUS was on an MD80.

GatorClark wrote:
Wait are there SERIOUSLY Chicago-Milwaukee flights?! You could quite literally take Amtrak for most likely the same amount of time when you consider security at the airports versus Amtrak, they have a stop in Glenview (closer to ORD than Union Station) and is only somewhere in the ballpark of $26 one way.. I dont think even a short flight like that is that cheap. HOW does AA make ANY money off this route? That would be almost as bad as having an BWI-DCA flight. (Not sure there isn't at this point though) My apologies if this is getting off topic.

That flight mostly serves people connecting to other flights.

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