FlyUSAir wrote:ual777 wrote:lesfalls wrote:She didn't go into the details about it. She just said that it was bad. I have read those reviews but it shocks me as I have had very long discussions with the crew on each flight about it. I know another steward who moved from a big Asian airline to DY and he said that DY was not as good as the company that he was originally in but he did say that DY was still quite a good company though. It still shocks me though about the links that your showing me.
The biggest issue I have with carriers like Norwegian (aside from their attempts to play the "direct employment" and flag of convenience game) is their training bond. Emirates practices this as well. They can take a young pilot, dangle a fancy jet in front of him/her and tell them how awesome working for that carrier is. They then say "oh, but we have a training bond" and either require $30,000 dollars upfront for "training costs" that is released after 3 years or go after the pilot in court if they decide to leave. Its doubly difficult in a place like the UAE where unions are outlawed and Emirates can change the "contract" on a whim.
Its very easy for people on anet to say "oh well they signed up for it" but the objective of a recruiting department is to attract candidates and they can and do spin the truth. Common ways are saying they can expect a captain upgrade in a short period of time, promote a lifestyle that doesn't exist, etc. etc.
The practice itself should be outlawed.
You point out that Norwegian and Emirates have this, yet I know first hand most if not all US regional carriers have the same thing, with a worse pay rate. Some that offer these are even owned by AA or DL. Not a good argument.
The only regional I know of that still has a training contract is Mesa and even then its usually not even enforced from what I hear.
SOME regionals are offering large signing bonuses that require a time commitment but that is totally different.
The most outrageous part of a training contract is whether or not you even have a type rating for the aircraft, you are still going to go through the same training program as everyone else.