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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:48 pm

Hey guys,
The Qatar idea of Doha-Sydney-Canberra and return sounds crazy to me. Would be good however to fly an A350 or whatever from Sydney to Canberra and return if they sold tickets just for the leg!
Could the Canberra service actually be Doha-Canberra-Christchurch... Operated by 787-9s? Hmmm, food for thought.
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:15 am

I haven't seen this mentioned, but forgive me if it has. QF 789 seat map is now on the QF website:

http://www.qantas.com/infodetail/flying ... PY166Y.pdf
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:22 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
I haven't seen this mentioned, but forgive me if it has. QF 789 seat map is now on the QF website:

http://www.qantas.com/infodetail/flying ... PY166Y.pdf


Hmmmm doesn't look like enough bathrooms to me in business, although I'm assuming W will share with the business bathrooms? Interesting how they will do the W meal services from the economy galley? Or business - long walk, or lots of traffic through business. Interesting there is no galley at door 3 like NZ- looks tight on space.

And no update on the W seat, wonder if they are having approval issues, or manufacturing issues? Layout looks the same as current seats.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:39 am

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Interesting there is no galley at door 3 like NZ- looks tight on space.


There's a set of stairs shown next to the central aft gallery just ahead of L4/R4, which obviously is to the cabin crew rest area, but is it also possible there is some additional galley cart storage in that space with a lift?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:51 am

3 is about right for 42 business class. By the looks of the W will share with economy for, with a total of 4 bathrooms back there. I hope they are more spacious than the new slimline ones on the 737 which are very tight.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:12 am

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The Qantas wikipedia page suggests that QF has a codesharing arrangement with NZ. Can anyone think what route this might be (other than a mistake - which is where I am leaning towards)?

I thought the PER flights were codeshare. I know the NZ ones use (or used to) the QF lounge there, rather than the Star one (SQ?).
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:53 am

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luftaom wrote:
The Qantas wikipedia page suggests that QF has a codesharing arrangement with NZ. Can anyone think what route this might be (other than a mistake - which is where I am leaning towards)?

QF codeshare on routes where JQ/QF doesn't operate to, so yes the wiki page is correct. QF have had the codeshare agreement with NZ for several years.

Are you sure that's correct? I went into the QF website just now and looked for AKL-ADL: the only flights on offer were one-stop via MEL or SYD.
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:07 am

smi0006 wrote:
DeltaB717 wrote:
I haven't seen this mentioned, but forgive me if it has. QF 789 seat map is now on the QF website:

http://www.qantas.com/infodetail/flying ... PY166Y.pdf


Hmmmm doesn't look like enough bathrooms to me in business, although I'm assuming W will share with the business bathrooms? Interesting how they will do the W meal services from the economy galley? Or business - long walk, or lots of traffic through business. Interesting there is no galley at door 3 like NZ- looks tight on space.

And no update on the W seat, wonder if they are having approval issues, or manufacturing issues? Layout looks the same as current seats.


Just after PER-LHR was announced it was reported that the W seat would be announced in March
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:10 am

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777ER wrote:
luftaom wrote:
The Qantas wikipedia page suggests that QF has a codesharing arrangement with NZ. Can anyone think what route this might be (other than a mistake - which is where I am leaning towards)?

QF codeshare on routes where JQ/QF doesn't operate to, so yes the wiki page is correct. QF have had the codeshare agreement with NZ for several years.

Are you sure that's correct? I went into the QF website just now and looked for AKL-ADL: the only flights on offer were one-stop via MEL or SYD.


Yeah can anyone tell us a route where you will see a QF number on an NZ operated flight (or vice versa)?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:19 am

So.... the qantas 789 premium economy seats are equivalent to JAL's economy...
 
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Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:58 am

QF have not codeshared on NZ services for quite sometime. It's a basic interline agreement on some domestic NZ routes.

So the Wikipedia article is incorrect.
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:02 am

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So.... the qantas 789 premium economy seats are equivalent to JAL's economy...


How so? QF's Premium Economy is 7 Abreast (2-3-2 Configuration), whilst JL Economy is 8 Abreast (2-4-2 Configuration) on the same aicraft type. It's also important to note that JL Premium Economy is also 7 Abreast (2-3-2 Configuration).
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:17 am

And no update on the W seat, wonder if they are having approval issues, or manufacturing issues? Layout looks the same as current seats.


I somehow doubt that the new W seats are so earth-shattering that they require a different graphic. The leading W class currently on a 787 is probably at of AF on their new 789s and these could quite comfortably be represented by the graphic adopted by QF. Unless QF has gone beyond this and, given the price sensitivities of the W product I doubt it, then the graphic as shown is probably fine.
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:49 pm

getluv wrote:
QF have not codeshared on NZ services for quite sometime. It's a basic interline agreement on some domestic NZ routes.

So the Wikipedia article is incorrect.


Said another way, the Wikipedia article needs updating ;)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:32 pm

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Said another way, the Wikipedia article needs updating ;)



Well I was going to do that - but someone else made the deletion a few weeks ago and one of the (unofficial) keepers of the page reinstated Air NZ... which got me wondering what s/he knew that I didn't.
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:30 pm

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QF have not codeshared on NZ services for quite sometime. It's a basic interline agreement on some domestic NZ routes.

So the Wikipedia article is incorrect.

Thanks for the correction. Did QF ever have a codeshare or always been a interline agreement?


Does anyone know anything about possible public transport from Emerald Airport to downtown Emerald as I'm looking into a day trip there in April?
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Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:52 pm

777ER wrote:
getluv wrote:
QF have not codeshared on NZ services for quite sometime. It's a basic interline agreement on some domestic NZ routes.

So the Wikipedia article is incorrect.

Thanks for the correction. Did QF ever have a codeshare or always been a interline agreement?


Does anyone know anything about possible public transport from Emerald Airport to downtown Emerald as I'm looking into a day trip there in April?



The only option you have is a taxi, no buses at all in Emerald, its only a 5 minute drive so wont cost too much. You wont find much to do sadly it's not a hot spot for sight seeing or anything , just a town on the way to another

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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:44 am

CX expects most Australian flights will be operated by A350 by 2019

https://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-pacific ... 0s-by-2019
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:33 am

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777ER wrote:
getluv wrote:
QF have not codeshared on NZ services for quite sometime. It's a basic interline agreement on some domestic NZ routes.

So the Wikipedia article is incorrect.

Thanks for the correction. Did QF ever have a codeshare or always been a interline agreement?


Does anyone know anything about possible public transport from Emerald Airport to downtown Emerald as I'm looking into a day trip there in April?



The only option you have is a taxi, no buses at all in Emerald, its only a 5 minute drive so wont cost too much. You wont find much to do sadly it's not a hot spot for sight seeing or anything , just a town on the way to another

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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:53 am

777ER wrote:
getluv wrote:
QF have not codeshared on NZ services for quite sometime. It's a basic interline agreement on some domestic NZ routes.

So the Wikipedia article is incorrect.

Thanks for the correction. Did QF ever have a codeshare or always been a interline agreement?


I don't remember. Mind you, the interline agreement was much bigger before JQ started regional NZ flights.

But there was a time between 2003-2006 they were close. During this time Virgin Blue and Emirates were also friends.
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Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:10 am

I've never been to EMD - but my experience with Australian country towns and taxis is that they are few and far between and you can wait quite some time for a cab to take you back to the airport. On a recent flight to Tamworth - they announced over the PA that if you wanted a taxi then please let the attendant know so as that they could call ahead for you. Depending on your budget and circumstances - I'd give some thought to seeing if you can hire a car for the time you are there. This may be impractical for a whole host of reasons but it's worth having a look I think.
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:00 am

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I've never been to EMD - but my experience with Australian country towns and taxis is that they are few and far between and you can wait quite some time for a cab to take you back to the airport. On a recent flight to Tamworth - they announced over the PA that if you wanted a taxi then please let the attendant know so as that they could call ahead for you. Depending on your budget and circumstances - I'd give some thought to seeing if you can hire a car for the time you are there. This may be impractical for a whole host of reasons but it's worth having a look I think.


I've flown to EMD plenty of times. There is usually taxis at the front of the terminal. If not, you can order one via telephone. As someone said, its a 5 minute drive to downtown. The fact that there really is nothing to see there is another story :) If you have a lot of time, you can drive to the Qantas Founders Museum - I think its some 500km away (one way) :)
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:29 pm

getluv wrote:
777ER wrote:
getluv wrote:
QF have not codeshared on NZ services for quite sometime. It's a basic interline agreement on some domestic NZ routes.

So the Wikipedia article is incorrect.

Thanks for the correction. Did QF ever have a codeshare or always been a interline agreement?


I don't remember. Mind you, the interline agreement was much bigger before JQ started regional NZ flights.

But there was a time between 2003-2006 they were close. During this time Virgin Blue and Emirates were also friends.

NZ (and its former identity, TE) and QF had codeshare agreements dating back perhaps to the 1950s (or at least, the 1960s) when the Tasman operation was basically a single combined operation (not sure of the financial mechanics). The extent of co-operation has waxed and waned over the decades, but I think that arguably there is less co-operation now (and no codeshares) than at any time in history. They even codeshared on AKL-NAN back in the days when New Zealand's only connection to the United States was via a connection to QF's services from SYD-NAN-HNL-SFO.
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Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:52 pm

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CX expects most Australian flights will be operated by A350 by 2019

https://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-pacific ... 0s-by-2019


A350-900s replacing A330s, according to the article. But CX actually have more A350-1000s on order than -900s; I wonder how soon we can expect to see those begin to replace the 77Ws flying down here.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:22 am

Effective 29 Oct 17, CX will upgrade a third daily flight HKG-SYD to 77W, CX161/162 will be the flight upgraded from A333 to 77W

https://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-pacific ... boeing-777
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:59 am

QR expected to announce CBR in the next few months, expected to start in Feb 18

http://www.smh.com.au/act-news/canberra ... uchfc.html
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:39 pm

EK407 AKL-MEL diverted to SYD tonight after 2 missed approaches, aircraft is now positioning SYD-MEL
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:55 am

Austbt is reporting that the possible QR CBR route via SYD would likely see A350 equipment and would likely depart CBR early evening. Second daily to MEL tipped to start mid 2018. Of course this is all dependent on bilaterals being increased

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qatar-airways- ... early-2018
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:10 am

^ In the past people have suggested a flight via a secondary airport is not counted as part of the bilateral - CX's BNE via CNS for example. Is this only the case when a flight enters / departs Oz at the secondary airport is it, so that DOH-CBR-SYD-CBR-DOH would be ok, but swapping CBR & SYD around would not be OK?

There is already the late evening A380 departure from SYD as well, this potential new flight as described doesn't add much to the SYD market. Aside from a cool new aircraft of course. :)
 
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:20 am

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^ In the past people have suggested a flight via a secondary airport is not counted as part of the bilateral - CX's BNE via CNS for example. Is this only the case when a flight enters / departs Oz at the secondary airport is it, so that DOH-CBR-SYD-CBR-DOH would be ok, but swapping CBR & SYD around would not be OK?

There is already the late evening A380 departure from SYD as well, this potential new flight as described doesn't add much to the SYD market. Aside from a cool new aircraft of course. :)


Good point, then the service from CBR and the A380 will probably be departing around the same time, unless it is a really late evening departure from CBR (which could be to get the pax of the SQ WLG flight).
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:54 am

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^ In the past people have suggested a flight via a secondary airport is not counted as part of the bilateral - CX's BNE via CNS for example. Is this only the case when a flight enters / departs Oz at the secondary airport is it, so that DOH-CBR-SYD-CBR-DOH would be ok, but swapping CBR & SYD around would not be OK?

There is already the late evening A380 departure from SYD as well, this potential new flight as described doesn't add much to the SYD market. Aside from a cool new aircraft of course. :)


I think that is bilateral dependent. Some allow stops in secondary cities and some don't.
 
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:07 am

This CBR service with QR, surely one of the legs would be direct otherwise there is an inefficient backtrack.

Perhaps we could see DOH-SYD-CBR-DOH.
At similar slot times to curent 380 which would switch to an AM arrival and mid PM departure. What are QRs preferred times that fit in with the DOH waves?

Then you could have the 350 land in SYD say 2030. Do quick turn in SYD to be out by curfew. 2145/2245 in CBR for a proper clean/change then a 0030 departure to DOH.

Im not really sure how else this might work. Any suggestions?
 
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:56 am

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Perhaps we could see DOH-SYD-CBR-DOH.
Im not really sure how else this might work. Any suggestions?


I feel we are more likely to see the reverse so as to avoid any takeoff performance issues out of CBR.

However, I really don't see the point, apart from bragging rights, in a tag service. By the time the aircraft gets turned around in SYD (in either direction) you might as well connect to or from one of the plethora of QantasLink flights.
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:31 am

Does anyone living close to Sydney airport (I live in Erskineville) heard the Toll 737-300 take off late at night? Its usually from 34L at around 930pm.

The reason I ask is because for a 733 it's has the most unusual noise. Almost like it's flying with its RAT out (yes I know 737's don't have ram air turbines) but that's the sound it makes. I've never heard a 300 model make this sound, is there some modifications to these aircraft? Might be a hush kit, if so they're better off without it.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:32 am

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^ In the past people have suggested a flight via a secondary airport is not counted as part of the bilateral - CX's BNE via CNS for example. Is this only the case when a flight enters / departs Oz at the secondary airport is it, so that DOH-CBR-SYD-CBR-DOH would be ok, but swapping CBR & SYD around would not be OK?

There is already the late evening A380 departure from SYD as well, this potential new flight as described doesn't add much to the SYD market. Aside from a cool new aircraft of course. :)


No CXs BNE-CNS-HKG is part of the bilateral agreement between Australia and Hong Kong unfortunately. They could ditch the CNS transit with the CX146 and go direct like the night CX156 BNE-HKG now if they wanted to, but I think they keep it as they want to keep CNS in their network which may not be able to sustain a service in its own right...even more so now with HX on the route. I always wondered why CX didn't do what HX has done and ran the CNS route with OOL rather than BNE and give BNE the extra direct services during the day in addition to their daily direct night flights, but I guess HX has beaten CX on that option.

This discussion of QRs CBR services are interesting, i'd be curious if the Qatar-Australia bilateral agreements have different guidelines to what the Australia-Hong Kong one has. Routing it DOH-SYD-CBR-SYD-DOH seems a bit pointless as it gives CBR passengers little benefit as it adds an extra stop...the CBR pax may as well connect on domestic flights with QF to ADL or MEL and onto QR services to DOH. Add to the fact they would not have the rights to fly local traffic SYD-CBR-SYD so that A350 would be flying empty by the time a bunch of the SYD pax disembarked, added costs of new crew flying the return domestic sector...seems like a waste of money...but hey it's one of the ME3 airlines so anything is possible in that regards LOL
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:50 am

747m8te wrote:
I always wondered why CX didn't do what HX has done and ran the CNS route with OOL rather than BNE

This discussion of QRs CBR services are interesting,


How about HKG-CNS-CBR? :bigthumbsup:
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:35 am

Just saw a Emirates A388 on a 18:07 departure from PER A6-EUH, any ideas? Tech? Medical diversion? UAE421D?
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:21 am

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Just saw a Emirates A388 on a 18:07 departure from PER A6-EUH, any ideas? Tech? Medical diversion? UAE421D?


The flight did take off last night but returned to PER about 3 and half hours later, I'm trying to find out why they returned
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:23 am

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Does anyone living close to Sydney airport (I live in Erskineville) heard the Toll 737-300 take off late at night? Its usually from 34L at around 930pm.

The reason I ask is because for a 733 it's has the most unusual noise. Almost like it's flying with its RAT out (yes I know 737's don't have ram air turbines) but that's the sound it makes. I've never heard a 300 model make this sound, is there some modifications to these aircraft? Might be a hush kit, if so they're better off without it.


I live at Mascot and I agree, a very unique sounding aircraft, always know when it flies over. However not sure of the reason either.
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:51 am

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Just saw a Emirates A388 on a 18:07 departure from PER A6-EUH, any ideas? Tech? Medical diversion? UAE421D?


The flight did take off last night but returned to PER about 3 and half hours later, I'm trying to find out why they returned


It was medical (was told directly by someone involved with the flight).
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:32 pm

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maxter wrote:
Just saw a Emirates A388 on a 18:07 departure from PER A6-EUH, any ideas? Tech? Medical diversion? UAE421D?


The flight did take off last night but returned to PER about 3 and half hours later, I'm trying to find out why they returned


It was medical (was told directly by someone involved with the flight).


Thanks, much appreciated.
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:42 pm

MooLor wrote:
^ In the past people have suggested a flight via a secondary airport is not counted as part of the bilateral - CX's BNE via CNS for example. Is this only the case when a flight enters / departs Oz at the secondary airport is it, so that DOH-CBR-SYD-CBR-DOH would be ok, but swapping CBR & SYD around would not be OK?


The bilateral with Qatar is one that provides additional frequencies out of the 'major gateway airports' if the flight operates via, or continues to/from, a secondary international airport. So, by stopping in CBR, QR would avail itself of a second SYD frequency without the ASA being amended. Likewise for MEL if the ADL service were extended to either operate DOH-ADL-MEL vv or to triangulate.

qantas747 wrote:
This CBR service with QR, surely one of the legs would be direct otherwise there is an inefficient backtrack.

Perhaps we could see DOH-SYD-CBR-DOH.


While the bilateral allows any of DOH-SYD-CBR-SYD-DOH / DOH-CBR-SYD-CBR-DOH / DOH-SYD-CBR-DOH / DOH-CBR-SYD-DOH, I really think the last of those options is the most likely. I don't see QR wanting to do any more backtracking than necessary, nor do I see CBR-DOH as a good choice performance-wise.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:01 pm

VA to launch Hong Kong flights mid year - tipped to be MEL-HKG. PEK flights to follow (No talk of which Australian city yet but likely BNE or MEL)

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... s-mid-year

VA Pushes back B737 Max deliveries to 2019

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... -max-order

VA Swing to First Half loss

In the six months to December 31, the nation’s second largest carrier declared a loss of $21.5 million, as against a profit of $62.5m last year.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 925df4430e
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:32 am

log0008 wrote:
VA to launch Hong Kong flights mid year - tipped to be MEL-HKG.

I would think the scarcity of slots at HKG means mother HU has told HX to "share" slots with VA.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:53 am

VA Pushes back B737 Max deliveries to 2019


I think there is a cryptic twist in this. Previously VA referred to its order for the 737 Max8; now it refers simply to 737 Max. I understand the delay helps cash-flow, particularly whilst low fuel prices mean the imperative to upgrade is reduced but I also wonder if this is a prelude to a change from a Max8 to something else such as a Max9 or Max10. There is an argument for the larger model, particularly if VA would like to upgrade the J cabin so there is not such a big gap between J on the A330 and 737 which is obviously an issue on trans-continental services.
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:01 am

log0008 wrote:
VA to launch Hong Kong flights mid year - tipped to be MEL-HKG. PEK flights to follow (No talk of which Australian city yet but likely BNE or MEL)

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... s-mid-year

VA Pushes back B737 Max deliveries to 2019

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... -max-order

VA Swing to First Half loss

In the six months to December 31, the nation’s second largest carrier declared a loss of $21.5 million, as against a profit of $62.5m last year.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 925df4430e


I thought VA were going to send their older 737-800's o TT.

This suggests either TT will retain the A320's for a lot longer than originally planned or VA will in effect reduce in size over the next couple of years.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:10 am

qfvhoqa wrote:
log0008 wrote:
VA to launch Hong Kong flights mid year - tipped to be MEL-HKG.

I would think the scarcity of slots at HKG means mother HU has told HX to "share" slots with VA.


If HX does end up setting up a JV (or code-share) with VA on the flights, I don't think that it will matter, as it will give HX access to restricted markets, such as MEL where they have been eager to gain access. It's a win win situation of you ask me!
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:10 am

log0008 wrote:
VA to launch Hong Kong flights mid year - tipped to be MEL-HKG. PEK flights to follow (No talk of which Australian city yet but likely BNE or MEL)

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... s-mid-year

VA Pushes back B737 Max deliveries to 2019

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... -max-order

VA Swing to First Half loss

In the six months to December 31, the nation’s second largest carrier declared a loss of $21.5 million, as against a profit of $62.5m last year.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 925df4430e


Hmm MEL-HKG will be tough to compete with QF, CX, not impossible. Wonder what their lounge offering will be? SQ or EY? Where are LAX pax going?

Interesting around the J seats. They really just need built in entertainment and a foot rest. Does VA stop trying to beat QF as the premium carrier and slot in above JQ as a value carrier?
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:12 am

Xiamen Airlines during Northern summer season plans to increase Xiamen – Sydney service, as the airline schedules 4 weekly flights from 23JUN17 to 29AUG17. This route generally operates twice weekly in Northern summer.

Reservation for the new flights opened on Thursday (16FEB17).

MF801 XMN2150 – 0915+1SYD 787 36
MF801 XMN2220 – 0940+1SYD 787 15

MF802 SYD1115 – 1850XMN 787 47
MF802 SYD1140 – 1915XMN 787 26

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-in-ns17/
 
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Re: Australian Aviation - February 2017

Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:16 am

tullamarine wrote:
VA Pushes back B737 Max deliveries to 2019


I think there is a cryptic twist in this. Previously VA referred to its order for the 737 Max8; now it refers simply to 737 Max. I understand the delay helps cash-flow, particularly whilst low fuel prices mean the imperative to upgrade is reduced but I also wonder if this is a prelude to a change from a Max8 to something else such as a Max9 or Max10. There is an argument for the larger model, particularly if VA would like to upgrade the J cabin so there is not such a big gap between J on the A330 and 737 which is obviously an issue on trans-continental services.


There's this speculative piece on VA possibly upgrading J on the 737's

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... ness-class
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