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ikolkyo
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AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:46 pm

Saw this on avherald, I know it's the outer pane but I'm surprised they continued the flight!

http://avherald.com/h?article=4a496e8a&opt=0
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:56 pm

No need to be surprised. The flight crew operations manual and quick reference handbook tell a pilot what to do if a window is damaged in flight. Reducing altitude or A diversion to the nearest suitable alternate is only required if the window is deformed or if an air leak is observed. If a window is cracked, shattered, delaminated or has electrical arcing, a crew may decide to continue the flight. It is their decision if visibility requires a diversion if the window is not deformed or leaking.
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:19 pm

LHR is a maintenance station for AA. Many crews would have diverted there simply for that reason. On the other hand, AA does not do very much 757 flying out of LHR and thus the flight crew would likely have had to stay until the windshield was replaced which even in a maintenance station can be a rather lengthy process. Most pilots would like to get home if they can. The 757 QRH says unless the window is deformed or air leak is suspected then the flight can continue.
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:37 pm

To add to what has already been said, on top of continuing the present flight, certain minor windshield cracks are even dispatch-able for a limited number of "get home" flights.
At least, they are on 737's, and I expect the 757 is no different.
Obviously you must follow your MEL book procedures.
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:50 am

Interesting, I know I'd be pretty uncomfortable sitting in front of that thing for 8.5 hours.
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:19 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Interesting, I know I'd be pretty uncomfortable sitting in front of that thing for 8.5 hours.


If you knew how they were constructed and had the ability to read the checklist you may not think so. This is why we don't let passengers fly the plane......

Flying isn't about your comfort. It is following the SOP's, Checklist and guidance to assure the flight is operated safely. This is one of many layers of glass and and windshields crack all the time. It is not a big deal and yet the armchair aviators want to weigh on on what they would do with ZERO training or understanding.
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:44 am

mcdu wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Interesting, I know I'd be pretty uncomfortable sitting in front of that thing for 8.5 hours.


If you knew how they were constructed and had the ability to read the checklist you may not think so. This is why we don't let passengers fly the plane......

Flying isn't about your comfort. It is following the SOP's, Checklist and guidance to assure the flight is operated safely. This is one of many layers of glass and and windshields crack all the time. It is not a big deal and yet the armchair aviators want to weigh on on what they would do with ZERO training or understanding.


I don't understand what your problem is? I trust the pilots decision 100%, I'm just saying I'd be a little uneasy staring at a cracked windshield at altitude for hours. Calm yourself.
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:52 am

I've had the same situation in the 757 albeit much shorter flight. It is a bit disconcerting to stare at a shattered windshield but they are built rather well and designed with these scenarios in mind.
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:03 am

mcdu wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Interesting, I know I'd be pretty uncomfortable sitting in front of that thing for 8.5 hours.


If you knew how they were constructed and had the ability to read the checklist you may not think so. This is why we don't let passengers fly the plane......

Flying isn't about your comfort. It is following the SOP's, Checklist and guidance to assure the flight is operated safely. This is one of many layers of glass and and windshields crack all the time. It is not a big deal and yet the armchair aviators want to weigh on on what they would do with ZERO training or understanding.


Ain't that the truth.

But I do have to kinda agree, staring at a cracked windshield as a mechanic at an ill equipped outstation is pretty disturbing.
 
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Re: AA 203 AMS-PHL - Cracked Windshield - flew 8.5 hours.

Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:26 am

mcdu wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Interesting, I know I'd be pretty uncomfortable sitting in front of that thing for 8.5 hours.


If you knew how they were constructed and had the ability to read the checklist you may not think so. This is why we don't let passengers fly the plane......

Flying isn't about your comfort. It is following the SOP's, Checklist and guidance to assure the flight is operated safely. This is one of many layers of glass and and windshields crack all the time. It is not a big deal and yet the armchair aviators want to weigh on on what they would do with ZERO training or understanding.


Dude, take a chill pill.

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