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Re: UA Plans to Trounce AA in Chicago

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:53 am
by fraspotter
KTPAFlyer wrote:
What has this guy been smoking!?! AA will NEVER ever give up their market share at ORD! With that kind of lead, fleet investment, network, and terminal infrastructure, AA would literally have to be on the verge of extreme bankruptcy/cost cutting to dehub ORD like CVG, and as their second biggest hub (and largest city), it would be one of the last where AA would give up gates.

With the US/AA merger CLT is American's second largest hub in terms of destinations and flights with ORD 3rd.

Re: UA Plans to Trounce AA in Chicago

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:53 am
by ldvaviation
seatback wrote:
As someone mentioned earlier, this is about Kirby trying to convince his new team that he's now one of them.


Kirby did this at AA too. In the end, it was all talk, no action.

Re: UA Plans to Trounce AA in Chicago

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:46 pm
by planespotter20
DaufuskieGuy wrote:
he did say the airline’s new flagship plane — the 366-seat Boeing 777-300ER — probably won’t be used from Chicago It’s too big.

Then why were there 744s in service for many years and until just recently? Sounds like he is indicting past management for poor fleet allocation.


It could mean that ORD will be a hub for the similarly-sized a350-1000 united is getting (most likely). I also see the 787-10 becoming a common type we will see at ORD in the future.

Can't wait!!

Re: UA Plans to Trounce AA in Chicago

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:03 pm
by ripcordd
Kilopond wrote:
quickmover wrote:
Reminds me of the old days of Delta and Eastern at ATL or American and Braniff at DFW.


As well as American (=winner) and Delta (=loser) at DFW. Also, Lufthansa kicked Delta out of FRA. Continental at one time had to surrender DEN to United.

Under somewhat different circumstances American had been pulverised by Southwest at STL, Swiss by EasyJet at GVA and Malév completely by WizzAir and the other locusts.

STL Hub was let go due to the lack of O/D AA only went after STL as relief to ORD & DFW due to all the delays once 9/11 happened there was no need to relieve ORD & DFW and without a big O/D STL was on the chopping block. AA's ORD for many many years was mismanaged until the merger with US. Now I don't see AA folding up and leaving sure UA will take away some but not enough to force AA to leave. Also Chicago has 3 airlines with HUBS when you throw in SW at MDW

Re: UA Plans to Trounce AA in Chicago

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:15 pm
by 9w748capt
ldvaviation wrote:
seatback wrote:
As someone mentioned earlier, this is about Kirby trying to convince his new team that he's now one of them.


Kirby did this at AA too. In the end, it was all talk, no action.


I wonder what LCC Kirby has planned for Polaris. Lots of "enhacements" in the pipeline I'm sure. If only he could've taken Dougie with him.