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AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:50 pm

Good Day All,

Was just cruising around FlightAware and noticed that AA7 DFW-HNL looks to be diverting to SFO. Anyone know the reason? It also appears that SFO is having a particularly bad weather day with arrivals coming in on the 10's.

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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:40 pm

It is showing as a short - 45MIN - turnaround at the moment in and out of the same gate - medical?
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:53 pm

Why didn't they go into SJC if they needed to divert and weather is SFO is poor?

Wow. Landing on the 10s at SFO is very rare. Usually it's the 19s if weather is poor.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:22 pm

FLIFO says intermediate landing at SFO due maintenance.
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:26 pm

Apologies, AA7 operates DFW-OGG, not HNL.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:48 pm

SFO is way north of a DFW-OGG routing, why not LAX?
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:19 pm

LAX is supposed to get pounded by rain this weekend. I haven't checked yet but they may have told them SFO unless they were in the LA area and declared an emergency.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:48 pm

The DFW to Hawaii flights often pass near SFO and SJC. In fact, I recall years ago one of them diverted into SJC. I think they were simply close to SFO when they determined they needed to divert. If SFO were unavailable due to weather they had tons of suitable options in the area such as SJC, OAK, SMF and FAT for a medical diversion.

If it were a mechanical issue then SFO probably has more maintenance options, so I'm guessing that's why they chose SFO.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:53 pm

Aircraft AOG at SFO. Plan tail swap, departure from SFO 645pm.
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:15 pm

77H wrote:

arrivals coming in on the 10's.

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Wow! I've never seen an arrival on one of the 10s. 19s, sure, but the 10s would be something to see. I see UA7 flew over SoCal then at some point off the coast turned back and headed for SFO at which point it was "almost" equidistant to LA, anyway: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL7 ... /KDFW/KSFO

Question: that approach illustrated in FlightAware suggests a sharp turn to (presumably) 10L close to the threshold. Is that the norm??
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:18 pm

According to flightaware, AA7 that diverted into SFO was a B763 but is continuing on from SFO as both a B763 AND an A321! These are separate flights departing at different times. Why would this be... Flightaware glitch?
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:22 pm

Western727 wrote:
77H wrote:

arrivals coming in on the 10's.

77H


Wow! I've never seen an arrival on one of the 10s. 19s, sure, but the 10s would be something to see. I see UA7 flew over SoCal then at some point off the coast turned back and headed for SFO at which point it was "almost" equidistant to LA, anyway: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL7 ... /KDFW/KSFO

Question: that approach illustrated in FlightAware suggests a sharp turn to (presumably) 10L close to the threshold. Is that the norm??


I was going on my lunch break when I noticed that 767 and hurried over to T3E from Terminal 2 in case it was coming in for a 10L arrival. By the time I got there, I noticed it went around and was going for a 19 approach. On 10 approaches, flights will usually do a straight in approach from somewhere over the Pacific about five minutes from the airport. For example, take a look at this flight that arrived about eight minutes beforehand. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL268
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:52 pm

aviatorcraig wrote:
According to flightaware, AA7 that diverted into SFO was a B763 but is continuing on from SFO as both a B763 AND an A321! These are separate flights departing at different times. Why would this be... Flightaware glitch?


Yea, just a glitch with FA. It will be aircraft 858 (N126AN, an A321) operating the leg from SFO-OGG now.
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:06 am

What does it mean by "landing on the 10's or 19's"?
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:14 am

SQ001 wrote:
What does it mean by "landing on the 10's or 19's"?


I would think that would be pretty simple. The 10's are the reverse of runways 28L/28R and the 19's are the reverse of runways 1L/1R.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:14 am

SQ001 wrote:
What does it mean by "landing on the 10's or 19's"?


The runway number. I was a passenger on an AS 73G that landed on 10R a few years ago. Came in off the coast of Golden Gate park and right down over Daly City and Colma.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:15 am

hufftheweevil wrote:
aviatorcraig wrote:
According to flightaware, AA7 that diverted into SFO was a B763 but is continuing on from SFO as both a B763 AND an A321! These are separate flights departing at different times. Why would this be... Flightaware glitch?


Yea, just a glitch with FA. It will be aircraft 858 (N126AN, an A321) operating the leg from SFO-OGG now.


After the previous debacle, do you suppose someone at AA will check to make sure its an ETOPS A321 that they send over?
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:18 am

jbmitt wrote:
hufftheweevil wrote:
aviatorcraig wrote:
According to flightaware, AA7 that diverted into SFO was a B763 but is continuing on from SFO as both a B763 AND an A321! These are separate flights departing at different times. Why would this be... Flightaware glitch?


Yea, just a glitch with FA. It will be aircraft 858 (N126AN, an A321) operating the leg from SFO-OGG now.


After the previous debacle, do you suppose someone at AA will check to make sure its an ETOPS A321 that they send over?


Is N126AN equipped with ETOPS? I'm really asking as I have no clue.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:11 am

I arrived from PHL today on an AA A321 and landed on 10L. Winds were very erratic and the cloud base was low... made for an interesting landing. Back in late December when we had a similar storm, the 10s were used for landing as well. I think the wind has shifted and they have switched to the 19s.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:38 am

SQ001 wrote:
What does it mean by "landing on the 10's or 19's"?


"Runways are named by a number between 01 and 36, which is generally the magnetic azimuth of the runway's heading in decadegrees. This heading differs from true north by the local magnetic declination. A runway numbered 09 points east (90°), runway 18 is south (180°), runway 27 points west (270°) and runway 36 points to the north (360° rather than 0°).[1] When taking off from or landing on runway 09, a plane would be heading 90° (east).

"A runway can normally be used in both directions, and is named for each direction separately: e.g., "runway 33" in one direction is "runway 15" when used in the other. The two numbers usually differ by 18 (= 180°).

"If there is more than one runway pointing in the same direction (parallel runways), each runway is identified by appending Left (L), Center (C) and Right (R) to the number to identify its position (when facing its direction) — for example, Runways One Five Left (15L), One Five Center (15C), and One Five Right (15R). Runway Zero Three Left (03L) becomes Runway Two One Right (21R) when used in the opposite direction (derived from adding 18 to the original number for the 180 degrees when approaching from the opposite direction). In some countries, if parallel runways are too close to each other, regulations mandate that only one runway may be used at a time under certain conditions (usually adverse weather)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway

The plural "10s" is used because there are two runways--10L and 10R. Etc.
 
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Re: AA7 Diverting to SFO

Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:07 am

Carp12c wrote:
jbmitt wrote:
hufftheweevil wrote:

Yea, just a glitch with FA. It will be aircraft 858 (N126AN, an A321) operating the leg from SFO-OGG now.


After the previous debacle, do you suppose someone at AA will check to make sure its an ETOPS A321 that they send over?


Is N126AN equipped with ETOPS? I'm really asking as I have no clue.


Yes, it is. Unfortunately, the aircraft is still in LAX. Going to do AAL9622 but was supposed to leave half-hour ago.
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