Alexdk
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Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:27 pm

I am sorry. I have started a similar thread, but only about this year. What I have:

2017:
March Air New Zealand 763ER
April Cathay Pacific A343
August EVA 744
29th October United 744
Alaska 734
Allegiant 752
ANA A320
Delta 744
Korean 744
Saudia 772ER?
Southwest 733
S7 763
Thai 772?

2018:
American A333
American E-190
British 763ER
Cathay Pacific 772
Ethiopian 763ER
Hawaiian 763
Hawaiian 763ER
Philippine A343
Shanghai 763
Shanghai 763ER
UIA 733
UIA 735
Vietnam A332
Vietnam 772ER

2019:
Air France A343
American MD-82
American MD-83
Air Tahiti Nui A345
SAS 736
Virgin Australia E-190

2020:
airBaltic 733
airBaltic 735
Allegiant MD-83
Allegiant MD-88
EL AL 744
EL AL 763ER
Germania 737
Thai 744
Qantas 744

Is something incorrect? What am I missing?
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:46 pm

Where did you get this date?
29th October United 744

I had heared it would be December


AA MD-80

In an SEC filing, AA stated that they would start off 2018 with 32...and the would be gone by end of year...mid/late August, I presume

Honestly, going out to end of year 2020, is a little too far. That's almost 4 years! :shock:
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Alexdk
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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:39 pm

727LOVER wrote:
Where did you get this date?
29th October United 744

I had heared it would be December


AA MD-80

In an SEC filing, AA stated that they would start off 2018 with 32...and the would be gone by end of year...mid/late August, I presume

Honestly, going out to end of year 2020, is a little too far. That's almost 4 years! :shock:


http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... -oct-2017/
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:00 pm

Really sad to see so many 763's and 744's on this list. I have known about these retirements for a while, but just hate to see them disappear from our skies and airports. They will be missed!
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:55 pm

Alexdk wrote:
I am sorry. I have started a similar thread, but only about this year. What I have:
2019:

Air Tahiti Nui A345
Is something incorrect? What am I missing?

TN should be A343...
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:01 pm

Delta has stated the MD-88's will be gone by 2020.
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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:05 pm

bbcmeng wrote:
Really sad to see so many 763's and 744's on this list. I have known about these retirements for a while, but just hate to see them disappear from our skies and airports. They will be missed!



I agree. Seems BA and LH will be the only major carriers using the 747-400 in larger numbers after 2020. Anyone know what year they have set as retirement for the 744?
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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:31 pm

Alexdk wrote:
2017:

ANA A320

Is something incorrect? What am I missing?


Nothing incorrect, but you should probably specify that it's the A320 CEO, as they are also taking delivery of new A320NEOs (plus all the A321s).
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:37 pm

American retired the MD-80 by end of 2017 last I knew.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/money/bus ... /89205542/

DL by end 2020 as already posted.

Expect an acceleration. IMHO new aircraft production exceeds demand which creates buying opportunity for new which accelerated hand me downs and retirements. Until someone blinks. But at this point, any manufacturer blinking is out of the market...


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Re: Retirements schedule

Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 pm

2017
- April 22: Garuda Indonesia Boeing 747-400
- August 20: Eva Air: Boeing 747-400
- September: Etihad Airways: Airbus A340-600 (apparently also last year of their 3 remaining A340-500's)
- October 29: KLM Fokker F70

2021
- March: KLM Boeing 747-400

bbcmeng wrote:
Really sad to see so many 763's and 744's on this list. I have known about these retirements for a while, but just hate to see them disappear from our skies and airports. They will be missed!

Indeed. Apparently total 747 seat capacity has dropped two-thirds from 120 million seats per year in 2007 to only 40 million in 2016.

As a true 747-lover; this makes me very sad. Seeing my 'home airport' Amsterdam without 747 will be a sad sight; not seen since July 1970...
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:20 am

Such a shame that the last two major U.S. operators of the 744 will be retiring them especially after the skies used to be filled with them. Same with the MD-80, a beautiful workhorse.
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:29 am

Kuwait Airways...A343s and B772ERs by summer. Finnair retired its last A343 in January. The four newer A343s were sold back to Airbus and are expected to be leased to Air Belgium.
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:46 am

B747forever wrote:
bbcmeng wrote:
Really sad to see so many 763's and 744's on this list. I have known about these retirements for a while, but just hate to see them disappear from our skies and airports. They will be missed!



I agree. Seems BA and LH will be the only major carriers using the 747-400 in larger numbers after 2020. Anyone know what year they have set as retirement for the 744?


IAG (who own BA) publish a fleet plan for several years ahead. In November 2016 they said there would be 23 744s still in the fleet at the end of 2020. 18 of these are recently refurbished, and I'd expect the other five to leave during 2021 or 2022. The previous published plan (Nov 2015) had a faster delivery rate for A350-1000s and 787-10s, resulting in fewer 744s around in 2020.

However the 744 fleet is what they can flex depending on market demand, and if there is a significant downturn, 744s will depart sooner. There is no published information about when they expect to see the last of the refurbished 744s leave.
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:47 am

Virgin Australia have brought forward the retirement of the e190; they will all be gone by the end of 2017, not 2019. VA will also be removing the ATR from its fleet by years end.
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:41 pm

Alexdk wrote:

British 763ER


Current retirement timetable:

G-BNWA: June 2018
G-BNWB: August 2018
G-BNWX: November 2017
G-BNWZ: September 2018
G-BZHA: July 2018
G-BZHB: August 2018
G-BZHC: November 2017

These last seven BA 763s are all configured for short-haul operations. There are two categories of destinations. The first is where the large hold size is needed because of the freight volume on the route. These destinations include AMS, FRA and MAD. The other is for the longer haul European routes where frequency is not important. They comprise ATH, IST and LCA.

So what of the future once these aircraft are retired? The 321 is the announced replacement. Nevertheless BA have revealed that from 26 March LHR-MADLHR (BA458/59) will be operated by a 772, the first time BA has scheduled this type on one of their designated short-haul routes. The outward flight arrives in MAD at 10:50, in time to transfer cargo to aircraft operating the IB lunch-time bank of flights to South America. It arrives back at LHR at 13:50 allowing transfers to many flights to North America and to Asia.

With no short-haul configured 772 currently in its fleet it will be interesting to see which of its existing several different 772 configurations it uses and whether it sells the premium class seats on these flights. Less likely I think is that it will refurbish an aircraft to a C/Y configuration?
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:54 pm

I believe Allegiant accelerated its plan for MD retirement. They are now saying mid to late 2019.
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:12 pm

Etihad's A346s should be gone by end of september this year.
The A345s will likely go this year too. Only two remaining.
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:22 pm

Thomson Airways/TUI all 757-200W out of service by Winter 2019, is this the last major 757 operator to dispose of the magnificent 757
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:31 pm

FATFlyer wrote:
I believe Allegiant accelerated its plan for MD retirement. They are now saying mid to late 2019.
I love the MD's but that's not a moment too soon for this operator.
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:51 pm

The last DC-9 in commercial service will be retired sometime around 2100...

Along with that, AC is starting to retire their A319/A320/A321 once their 737MAX aircraft enter service (Some going to Air Canada Rogue). Don't know the exact retirement date though.

SK 736's are slated to be gone by 2019.
LZ Avro RJ100's last flight is slated for October 26 2017.
SN Avro RJ100's gone by the end of 2017.
KE 744's gone by the end of 2017.
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:00 pm

Thomson Airways/TUI all 757-200W out of service by Winter 2019, is this the last major 757 operator to dispose of the magnificent 757
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:10 pm

bendewire wrote:
Thomson Airways/TUI all 757-200W out of service by Winter 2019, is this the last major 757 operator to dispose of the magnificent 757


I would think that Delta Airlines still counts as a major 757 operator, they have more than Thomson/TUI. Don't know what their retirement schedule is though.

Also are Condor keeping their 757-300s for a little while yet, if not what is due to replace them?
 
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Re: Retirements schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:18 pm

ILNFlyer wrote:
FATFlyer wrote:
I believe Allegiant accelerated its plan for MD retirement. They are now saying mid to late 2019.
I love the MD's but that's not a moment too soon for this operator.

Fatflyee, do you have any link? This implies good availability (lowish price) of replacements.


I personally do not like the MD-80 due to sitting by the engines. I'm an engine fanatic, but I also like my hearing. To those who sit in the front, I wish my employer expensed that...

Interesting thinking how such a huge engine family, the JT8D, is on such a rapid sunset. OK, it is time, but with the retirement of AA, DL, and G4 MD-80s combined with the major freight operators having already retired the 727, the economics are getting bad for parts... Cest la vie.

With over production of new types, used A320 and 737s will take their role in the low utilization part of the market.

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Re: Retirements schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:40 am

QF 744's will last past 2020 atleast defiantly the 744ER, they could still have the last 3 regular 744's aswell depending on the economy.

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