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Air France union calls for strike

Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:48 pm

Air France braces for yet another strike.

French aviation union CGT called for a strike among all the staff of Air France. The union wants to push for salary negotiations on 7 March.

CGT also wants the staff to participate in the profits of Air France over the past year. The union is angry about the 17.6% higher bonus for top management.


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http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/c ... air-france
http://www.lesechos.fr/industrie-servic ... 067614.php

Union calls the bonus raise "un scandale".
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Re: Air France pilot union calls for strike

Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:57 pm

CGT does not represent pilots. The pilot unions are SNPL, SPAF and ALTER.

CGT (General Confederation of Labor) covers portion of ground staff and cabin crew.

Yes its playing out in media news that AF management receive very nice bonuses from big profits while company at same time demanding cuts and changes from staff. Bad move.
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:07 pm

Why are they striking again? Aren't they already some of the most well paid employees in the world?
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:10 pm

Well it was a while ago since the last AF strike and of course they must out do LH.
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:11 pm

MaksFly wrote:
Why are they striking again? Aren't they already some of the most well paid employees in the world?


Air France is cutting costs everywhere, and yet top management received some big fat bonuses in 2016.
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:19 pm

There is debate in numbers now, but this week AF released financial information that showed senior executives received 40% percent increase bonuses based on 2016 performance. Company later revised this figure was really 17.8% increase, and the 40% mentioned in documents was incorrectly stated.

Regardless, obviously this news comes at poor time as company continues to argue with staff for continued reduction in their benefits. So much for egalitarian concept of shared sacrifices by all parties.
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:21 pm

Always convenient when they call strike far enough out that passengers can rebook or make alternate plans like flying the ME3. Good grief. Sometimes I wonder if the ME3 actually pay the leaders of the European unions to call strikes.
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:43 pm

September of 2014 I buy a ticket from Delta airlines to do a multi-city European trip from LAX. Fly KLM over and booked on Air France on way back. You all know the rest of the story regarding AF. Rebooked in Delta to get home from that trip.

Next week plan to travel to Spain and back, booked by Delta. Guess who is set to bring me home on March 9?

With industrial actions in the works, can I attempt to preemptly book another flight?
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:18 pm

MaksFly wrote:
Why are they striking again? Aren't they already some of the most well paid employees in the world?


They are, that's not the problem. The problem is that they're being cut by the management while the management gets a bonus. That's unfair. If they need to cut costs, they need to cut management costs too. The managers are to set a good example, but they don't.

Air France is still struggling financially and that does not allow for a bonus. Not for the pilots and not for the managers either. The management can easily solve this issue by refusing / refunding their bonusses and use this money for the sake of the company instead of the sake of themselves.
 
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Re: Air France pilot union calls for strike

Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:44 pm

mercure1 wrote:
CGT does not represent pilots. The pilot unions are SNPL, SPAF and ALTER.

I could tell by looking at it's chairman :)
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Re: Air France pilot union calls for strike

Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:34 pm

Why don't the employees just go home and stay there? Air France and the behaviour of its employees are an embarrassment to France and an insult to working people generally.
 
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Re: Air France pilot union calls for strike

Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:29 am

kjeld0d wrote:
Why don't the employees just go home and stay there?


That's probably their ultimate goal, but of course they expect to be paid for going home.
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:43 am

Could we please make this easier and just report the times when Air France ISN'T striking, would be a much quicker read :duck:
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:44 am

Jerseyguy wrote:
Could we please make this easier and just report the times when Air France ISN'T striking, would be a much quicker read :duck:


Let me be the devils advocate here then. With all the restructuring that still is very necessary, why did management (already decently paid I will assume) give only themselves the raise?

This is playing with matches in the gun powder storage room.

I feel sad for the travelers, but management deserves all the headache they will get from this. And it only detracts from what is still necessary at Air France.
 
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Re: Air France pilot union calls for strike

Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:26 pm

kjeld0d wrote:
Why don't the employees just go home and stay there? Air France and the behaviour of its employees are an embarrassment to France and an insult to working people generally.


What's an embarrassment is the executives behaviour.
The company isn't even really in the black and they grow their own bonuses double digits while still expecting the employees to make more efforts.
Talk about double standards. With their results, why are they even given bonuses?
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

Say what you want about the US carriers, and they have all gone on strike at one point or the other, but AA, DL, UA, WN, AS, B6, VX, and HA employees at least have integrity and do the right thing when it comes to getting what they want, along with their respective unions. Air France and Lufthansa (and their employees) are laughing stocks now in the aviation world. When you need to get somewhere in Europe fly BA or a US carrier, at least they can get you there.
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:34 pm

One of the smaller pilot unions ALTER has joined CGT call for industrial action and filed legal notice of intent for 24-hour strike for March 7.
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Re: Air France pilot union calls for strike

Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:14 pm

kelval wrote:
What's an embarrassment is the executives behaviour.
The company isn't even really in the black and they grow their own bonuses double digits while still expecting the employees to make more efforts.
Talk about double standards. With their results, why are they even given bonuses?

AF/KL is in the black, mostly due to the results of KL. And these bonuses shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone, they're based on conditions set long before the results were announced.

Meanwhile ALL KL staff also share in a bonus worth ~5% of their annual salaries introduced after staff made concessions to make KL more profitable. If AF staff had been reasonable in the past and cared about the profitability of AF instead of striking so much I'm sure something similar would have been possible for all staff at AF as well.
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:24 pm

mercure1 wrote:
One of the smaller pilot unions ALTER has joined CGT call for industrial action and filed legal notice of intent for 24-hour strike for March 7.

Indeed, their demands are even a bit more extensive.

- Re-balancing of flights between AF and KL;
- More planes for AF;
- Increase of wages;
- No additional outsourcing;
- A significant amount of new staff :shock:
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:04 pm

Jetty wrote:
mercure1 wrote:
One of the smaller pilot unions ALTER has joined CGT call for industrial action and filed legal notice of intent for 24-hour strike for March 7.

Indeed, their demands are even a bit more extensive.

- Re-balancing of flights between AF and KL;
- More planes for AF;


Is it me, or is this just childish? You put the planes/flights where the business is, don't you?

- Increase of wages;
- No additional outsourcing;
- A significant amount of new staff :shock:


I'm sure no-one else on Earth wants any of those things... :roll:
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:15 pm

Jerseyguy wrote:
Could we please make this easier and just report the times when Air France ISN'T striking, would be a much quicker read :duck:


Quite. In other news, the sea is wet and bears s**t in the woods.
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:18 pm

Another round of cabin crew industrial action is planned between 18–20 March.
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:32 pm

Must be a slow news day.
 
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Re: Air France union calls for strike

Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:12 pm

When was the last time AF was on strike?

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