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sptv
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AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:27 pm

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... FeedBurner

During May, AA will transfer their evening flight LAX-YVR and morning return from Eagle to Mainline. Just for one month. Curious what that really means? Are they testing the route/flight to see if it can support mainline service/additional seats? If loads are good, does this suggest the route could go to mainline full time?

The irony is that by moving the flight from E175 to A319, they will actually be LOSING 3 biz class seats. I can tell you from my experience flying this route regularly for the past 8 years, premium cabin seats are in demand, particularly on the evening runs from LAX-YVR due to Hollywood North. To lose premium cabin seats is a mistake! Also, if, in fact, they are testing to see if demand is there for an upgrade, doing the test during May is odd, since most Hollywood productions are down during that time. Demand (especially for premium cabin) runs Jul thru April. Summer months sees demand for economy seats skyrocket, as that is cruise season. Again, this is all anecdotal, but it's first hand observation over 8 years. AS should not have abandoned this route!!!
 
MAH4546
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:59 pm

It means the June schedule isn't loaded yet and it'll probably stay mainline once they load June.
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pasu129
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:12 pm

Wish they'd switch sooner!!!
Viva Las Vegas
 
commavia
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:14 pm

Good to see another market see a move towards more mainline ... along with the recent switch of DEN (back) to all-mainline (A319) and SMF also seeing an A319 rotation coming up.
 
winginit
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:18 pm

Would be surprised if this went mainline for an extended period of time. Given the competition on this route (six carriers), LAXYVR has been an absolute bloodbath for years when it comes to yields.
 
wingnuts
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:21 pm

I can recall when AS was running three times daily between LAX-YVR. No doubt the traffic numbers are big between LA and Vancouver, but at ~$110 for a one way 2.5 hour segment leads me to believe the yields are not that strong, but important enough to work with. After the removal of the AS LAX/YVR flight, AS went with two daily 737s between SEA/YVR to feed traffic through SEA. Without seeing traffic numbers, I would bet allot of that AS YVR traffic through SEA is still going to Southern Cali and Mexico.

I envision AA will go mainline on YVR/LAX year round sometime soon. I also see them going twice daily when they do. If this happens, I see Delta matching it. I dont believe AS abandoned the route, but just needed their equipment to work elsewhere. When they removed this flight they were in a head to head battle with Delta, and that equipment was used elsewhere. IMHO, AA and Delta have a huge fleet flexibility advantage over AS, but with the AS acquisition of Virgin America, I see them returning to YVR/LAX at some point. No doubt, there is money to be made on this route.
 
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:51 pm

wingnuts wrote:
I can recall when AS was running three times daily between LAX-YVR. No doubt the traffic numbers are big between LA and Vancouver, but at ~$110 for a one way 2.5 hour segment leads me to believe the yields are not that strong, but important enough to work with. After the removal of the AS LAX/YVR flight, AS went with two daily 737s between SEA/YVR to feed traffic through SEA. I would bet allot of that AS YVR traffic through SEA is still going to Southern Cali and Mexico.
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I booked a ticket LAX-YVR for the first week of August on Eagle via Alaska website on a code-share flight. Outbound fare was $106 and return was $111. Of that roughly $65 one-way is taxes. The same flights on the AA website were $631 one way. I know there's a holiday the first week of August in BC, but the disparity between AS, DL, UA, AC and WS were tens of dollars as compared to the AS/AE code-share. Personally, I'll take a 175 any day.
 
robt760
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:21 am

It may sound like an upgrade to go to mainline aircraft, but they will be LUS aircraft/crew (based on flight numbers). The LUS A319 is a few steps below the nicer E jets IMO.
 
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:10 pm

robt760 wrote:
It may sound like an upgrade to go to mainline aircraft, but they will be LUS aircraft/crew (based on flight numbers). The LUS A319 is a few steps below the nicer E jets IMO.

With the amount of J seats yes, but aren't they trying to put refurbished jets through L-AA hubs?
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Re: AA LAX-YVR goes mainline

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:05 pm

All AA A319s have the new interior now with the 128 seats and power. Only the L-AA A319s have the TVs.
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