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TheLion wrote:There's no way this should have been allowed anyway. It's anti-competitive for one and if I'm honest big corporations are starting to become just too big. Regardless of procedure it was a sensible decision.
BobPatterson wrote:TheLion wrote:There's no way this should have been allowed anyway. It's anti-competitive for one and if I'm honest big corporations are starting to become just too big. Regardless of procedure it was a sensible decision.
Please help me understand your position.
Why would UPS + TNT be anti-competitive while FedEx + TNT is not anti-competitive?
BobPatterson wrote:Thanks for the replies. BUT......
I'm very confused. Maybe someone can untangle this for me.
On the Wikipedia page for ASL Ireland they say:
"The company announced on 5 February 2016 that it had agreed to buy TNT Airways and PAN Air, on the condition that FedEx's purchase of TNT goes ahead. The sale went through in May 2016. TNT Airways became ASL Airlines Belgium and Pan Air became ASL Airlines Spain."
Did FedEx simply turn around and sell or, by some other arrangement, turn TNT over to ASL?
I realize that Wikipedia is sometimes not totally accurate, and I don't know what to think in this case.
What are the current relationships between FedEx, ASL and TNT?
USAirKid wrote:BobPatterson wrote:Thanks for the replies. BUT......
I'm very confused. Maybe someone can untangle this for me.
On the Wikipedia page for ASL Ireland they say:
"The company announced on 5 February 2016 that it had agreed to buy TNT Airways and PAN Air, on the condition that FedEx's purchase of TNT goes ahead. The sale went through in May 2016. TNT Airways became ASL Airlines Belgium and Pan Air became ASL Airlines Spain."
Did FedEx simply turn around and sell or, by some other arrangement, turn TNT over to ASL?
I realize that Wikipedia is sometimes not totally accurate, and I don't know what to think in this case.
What are the current relationships between FedEx, ASL and TNT?
I'd have to go digging, but this sounds what happened when DHL bought Airborne Express, the airline was spun out into its own company.
I'm not sure on the European ownership rules, but I'd guess they don't allow an American company (FedEx) to own European airlines, and American airlines aren't allowed to fly freight inside Europe, so TNT/FedEx had to sell the airline business to a European company, and they're contracting the lift back for their operations.
TWA772LR wrote:If I was a C-level suite in Louisville, I'd be pissed. Isn't FedEx in the process of taking over TNT?
readytotaxi wrote:TWA772LR wrote:......Isn't FedEx in the process of taking over TNT?
Appears so.
http://about.van.fedex.com/newsroom/glo ... t-express/
FX1816 wrote:No ABX Air was a separate entity from Airborne Express well before the merger with DHL, almost 20 years I believe. You might be thinking of DHL and ASTAR Air Cargo. DHL Airways had to be spun off from DHL Express and thus became ASTAR before the merger with Airborne.
rotating14 wrote:BobPatterson wrote:TheLion wrote:There's no way this should have been allowed anyway. It's anti-competitive for one and if I'm honest big corporations are starting to become just too big. Regardless of procedure it was a sensible decision.
Please help me understand your position.
Why would UPS + TNT be anti-competitive while FedEx + TNT is not anti-competitive?
UPS is a bigger company than FedEx. $92 billion market cap vs $51 billion market cap. FedEx could absorb TNT easier than UPS could without locking up markets that would make the shipping landscape uncompetitive for FedEx.
rotating14 wrote:UPS is a bigger company than FedEx. $92 billion market cap vs $51 billion market cap. FedEx could absorb TNT easier than UPS could without locking up markets that would make the shipping landscape uncompetitive for FedEx.
BobPatterson wrote:Thanks for posting the link to that document, and to all others who replied. It looks like FedEx set up a kind of subsidiary Dutch corporation "FedEx Acquisition B.V." to get around the problem of a U.S. corporation owning a European air company.
Also, FedEx's acquisition makes great sense to me upon learning that it was primarily TNT's ground ops that was the object of affection.