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SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:22 pm

 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:39 pm

Seasonal flights to Santa Rosa/Sonoma County and Austin will be offered August through December 2017 via Minneapolis/St. Paul International Airport, Terminal 2. The new destinations will fly one round-trip flight per week for 15 weeks, departing Thursdays and returning Sundays. Travel to Santa Rosa/Sonoma County will be available from Aug. 24 through Dec. 3 and to Austin from Aug. 31 to Dec. 10.


Is SY ferrying aircraft around these routes? I wondering if there are some casino charters or something that will be operating within a close distance to AUS and STS.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:09 am

I think these are both viable summer seasonal routes, although STS is going to require a lot of marketing push as it's unlikely many people in the MSP area know about that airport.

And yes, once someone publishes the schedule we can see if there's extended "ground time" at AUS or STS, indicating that these may turn to charters to IFP or ENW.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:46 am

Good for STS. Where are they going to put all these passengers? With four airlines now flying into STS, the airport needs to expand quickly. I guess they can build another hold room where the outside patio is now?
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:03 am

drdisque wrote:
I think these are both viable summer seasonal routes, although STS is going to require a lot of marketing push as it's unlikely many people in the MSP area know about that airport.

And yes, once someone publishes the schedule we can see if there's extended "ground time" at AUS or STS, indicating that these may turn to charters to IFP or ENW.





Well, starting in mid August until December is not what I would call summer seasonal lol.
Also, SY does not have the contract to serve the Wendover (ENV) area casinos.

I really don't see a big draw for MSP area folks for Sonoma County to warrant nonstop service.
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:18 am

drdisque wrote:
I think these are both viable summer seasonal routes, although STS is going to require a lot of marketing push as it's unlikely many people in the MSP area know about that airport.

And yes, once someone publishes the schedule we can see if there's extended "ground time" at AUS or STS, indicating that these may turn to charters to IFP or ENW.


Summer seasonal route? The MSP-STS route runs from August through December.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:34 am

This service will prove that STS can definitely handle mainline aircraft physically. How the STS-MSP route will do has yet to be seen. The main runway at STS is LONGER than that of SNA. So it shouldn't be a problem.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:51 am

Once a week flights folks...STS is wine country?? No?? SY also just added N823SY today. That gives them 26 for the rest of winter until the 4 HV planes go back to AMS after Easter....
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:10 am

mtnwest1979 wrote:
Well, starting in mid August until December is not what I would call summer seasonal lol.
Also, SY does not have the contract to serve the Wendover (ENV) area casinos.

I really don't see a big draw for MSP area folks for Sonoma County to warrant nonstop service.


Who's calling the them "summer" seasonal? The press release just says seasonal.

Given that it's only one round trip flight a week, I imagine there might be sufficient demand for STS, given that it covers the Russian River area and Sonoma County - just about my favourite places in the US. The season of the flights also covers grape harvest and the wine festivals, so for anyone who's there it isn't a long or arduous drive to Napa Valley.

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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:20 am

The Austin route makes little sense unless SY got part of Texas' football charter business - maybe the cheerleaders and the band get an SY 738?...
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:47 am

mariner wrote:
the Russian River area and Sonoma County - just about my favourite places in the US.

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So you'd take them over Branson? :-)
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:14 am

PlanesNTrains wrote:
mariner wrote:
the Russian River area and Sonoma County - just about my favourite places in the US.

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So you'd take them over Branson? :-)


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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:18 am

mariner wrote:
mtnwest1979 wrote:
Well, starting in mid August until December is not what I would call summer seasonal lol.
Also, SY does not have the contract to serve the Wendover (ENV) area casinos.

I really don't see a big draw for MSP area folks for Sonoma County to warrant nonstop service.


Who's calling the them "summer" seasonal? The press release just says seasonal.

Given that it's only one round trip flight a week, I imagine there might be sufficient demand for STS, given that it covers the Russian River area and Sonoma County - just about my favourite places in the US. The season of the flights also covers grape harvest and the wine festivals, so for anyone who's there it isn't a long or arduous drive to Napa Valley.

mariner


Well, if you would read the post I quoted, they are the ones that said summer seasonal. Pretty simple to see. I usually refrain from going off, but damn. Not too difficult.
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:06 am

mtnwest1979 wrote:
mariner wrote:
mtnwest1979 wrote:
Well, starting in mid August until December is not what I would call summer seasonal lol.
Also, SY does not have the contract to serve the Wendover (ENV) area casinos.

I really don't see a big draw for MSP area folks for Sonoma County to warrant nonstop service.


Who's calling the them "summer" seasonal? The press release just says seasonal.

Given that it's only one round trip flight a week, I imagine there might be sufficient demand for STS, given that it covers the Russian River area and Sonoma County - just about my favourite places in the US. The season of the flights also covers grape harvest and the wine festivals, so for anyone who's there it isn't a long or arduous drive to Napa Valley.

mariner


Well, if you would read the post I quoted, they are the ones that said summer seasonal. Pretty simple to see. I usually refrain from going off, but damn. Not too difficult.


Ok...ok...sheesh! Life is too short to go off like this. I just found it interesting that Sun Country called this a summer seasonal service, when it continued through December. I apologize.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:46 am

PlanesNTrains wrote:
So you'd take them over Branson? :-)


Yeh, you bet. Image

Don't get me wrong, I love Branson in the same way that I love Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge - fantastic places to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there

I did live at Russian River - Guerneville - for a couple of years, the last place I lived in the US, and it is somewhere like no other that I know, one of the undiscovered jewels of the US.

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mtnwest1979 wrote:
Well, if you would read the post I quoted, they are the ones that said summer seasonal. Pretty simple to see. I usually refrain from going off, but damn. Not too difficult.

Ok...ok...sheesh! Life is too short to go off like this. I just found it interesting that Sun Country called this a summer seasonal service, when it continued through December. I apologize.


Gosh, I was just pointing out that nowhere does Sun Country say "summer" seasonal - probably because the service isn't that.

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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:08 am

Guess not many of you follow Sun Country on social media. They've run a ton of specialty group charters to Sonoma here and there in the past few years. This just capitalizes on the success of those charters thus far.

Good for them for going after it and seeing if it sticks.
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:57 pm

mariner wrote:
mtnwest1979 wrote:
Well, starting in mid August until December is not what I would call summer seasonal lol.
Also, SY does not have the contract to serve the Wendover (ENV) area casinos.

I really don't see a big draw for MSP area folks for Sonoma County to warrant nonstop service.


Who's calling the them "summer" seasonal? The press release just says seasonal.

Given that it's only one round trip flight a week, I imagine there might be sufficient demand for STS, given that it covers the Russian River area and Sonoma County - just about my favourite places in the US. The season of the flights also covers grape harvest and the wine festivals, so for anyone who's there it isn't a long or arduous drive to Napa Valley.

mariner


SY Marketing shouldn't even try to describe this as Bay Area, STS, or Santa Rosa. Non-stop to Sonoma wine country! is all they need.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:42 pm

AUS is a great addition, I fly from the Twin Cities to AUS a lot and Delta flights are always full and I cant wait to see Delta compete on this route.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:31 pm

Great to hear about the new route to Austin.....no more routing through Atlanta and no more regional jets to fly on. Hope this works out well for Sun Country.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:34 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
Summer seasonal route? The MSP-STS route runs from August through December.


That *is* San Francisco's summer.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:48 pm

Also, San Francisco proper is only about 60 miles south of STS so tourists coming in that airport could easily make the drive to SF.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:33 pm

One thing that I do know.... Sun Country is very smart about what it does. I am certain they have done their homework on this route, and know exactly what they are doing.
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:02 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
This service will prove that STS can definitely handle mainline aircraft physically. How the STS-MSP route will do has yet to be seen. The main runway at STS is LONGER than that of SNA. So it shouldn't be a problem.


With SY coming, there will be no further airlines coming to STS until the expansion of the terminal is complete in 2019. http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/67554 ... artslide=0

It is an interesting add to STS and I hope it does well. The fact its once weekly is a limiting factor of course but we shall see.
 
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Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:56 am

SonomaFlyer wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
This service will prove that STS can definitely handle mainline aircraft physically. How the STS-MSP route will do has yet to be seen. The main runway at STS is LONGER than that of SNA. So it shouldn't be a problem.


With SY coming, there will be no further airlines coming to STS until the expansion of the terminal is complete in 2019. http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/67554 ... artslide=0

It is an interesting add to STS and I hope it does well. The fact its once weekly is a limiting factor of course but we shall see.


With the arrival on Thursdays and departures on Sundays, where does the airplane go in the meantime???

Also, if need be, customers can fly in or out of SFO if they need the flexibility.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:47 am

wedgetail737 wrote:
SonomaFlyer wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
This service will prove that STS can definitely handle mainline aircraft physically. How the STS-MSP route will do has yet to be seen. The main runway at STS is LONGER than that of SNA. So it shouldn't be a problem.


With SY coming, there will be no further airlines coming to STS until the expansion of the terminal is complete in 2019. http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/67554 ... artslide=0

It is an interesting add to STS and I hope it does well. The fact its once weekly is a limiting factor of course but we shall see.


With the arrival on Thursdays and departures on Sundays, where does the airplane go in the meantime???

Also, if need be, customers can fly in or out of SFO if they need the flexibility.

My guess is they'll run wine country charters. I look at like how they handle Laughlin.
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:28 pm

lavalampluva wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
With the arrival on Thursdays and departures on Sundays, where does the airplane go in the meantime???
Also, if need be, customers can fly in or out of SFO if they need the flexibility.

My guess is they'll run wine country charters. I look at like how they handle Laughlin.


The first flight to STS was yesterday, and I was eager to see what they do with the airplane between Thursday and Sunday. But so far, it looks like it is just sitting there...
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:43 pm

The first flight remained in STS overnight and is heading to EUG this A.M.
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Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:09 pm

lavalampluva wrote:
The first flight remained in STS overnight and is heading to EUG this A.M.

Thanks! That just showed up (sometime in the past hour?) on flightaware. Is there somewhere else you were able to see it further in advance?
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:00 pm

mrwhizzard wrote:
lavalampluva wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
With the arrival on Thursdays and departures on Sundays, where does the airplane go in the meantime???
Also, if need be, customers can fly in or out of SFO if they need the flexibility.

My guess is they'll run wine country charters. I look at like how they handle Laughlin.


The first flight to STS was yesterday, and I was eager to see what they do with the airplane between Thursday and Sunday. But so far, it looks like it is just sitting there...


At the terminal? I didn't know they had enough parking spots to allow that. I assumed it would get towed somewhere else for RON. How many terminal parking spots are there with the new tent gate?
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:15 pm

mrwhizzard wrote:
lavalampluva wrote:
The first flight remained in STS overnight and is heading to EUG this A.M.

Thanks! That just showed up (sometime in the past hour?) on flightaware. Is there somewhere else you were able to see it further in advance?


I saw it on flightaware under the scheduled departures.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8651/history/20170825/1620Z/KSTS/KEUG
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:26 pm

mrwhizzard wrote:
lavalampluva wrote:
The first flight remained in STS overnight and is heading to EUG this A.M.

Thanks! That just showed up (sometime in the past hour?) on flightaware. Is there somewhere else you were able to see it further in advance?


If you know the reg#, or can find it, flightradar24 will sometimes show upcoming flights for the aircraft. However, SY is not very good at providing the info, so you might not find it as readily available as other carriers.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:28 pm

Will Sun Country add service to either IAH or HOU from MSP, or would Southwest end up serving HOU nonstop from MSP?
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:05 pm

jplatts wrote:
Will Sun Country add service to either IAH or HOU from MSP, or would Southwest end up serving HOU nonstop from MSP?


I would bet WN first, actually. IAH/HOU won't be on SY's radar. They do not go after business traffic, mainly leisure. With their pending business model change to align itself closer to ULCC's though, anything is possible.
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:27 pm

SteveXC500 wrote:
mrwhizzard wrote:
lavalampluva wrote:
The first flight remained in STS overnight and is heading to EUG this A.M.

Thanks! That just showed up (sometime in the past hour?) on flightaware. Is there somewhere else you were able to see it further in advance?


If you know the reg#, or can find it, flightradar24 will sometimes show upcoming flights for the aircraft. However, SY is not very good at providing the info, so you might not find it as readily available as other carriers.


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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:27 pm

SteveXC500 wrote:
If you know the reg#, or can find it, flightradar24 will sometimes show upcoming flights for the aircraft. However, SY is not very good at providing the info, so you might not find it as readily available as other carriers.

The tail number is N815SY, but it looks like fr24 has even less info than flightaware in this case (it is missing the flight to EUG this morning).

loisencroach wrote:
At the terminal? I didn't know they had enough parking spots to allow that. I assumed it would get towed somewhere else for RON. How many terminal parking spots are there with the new tent gate?

I have no idea if it was at the terminal.

Any idea what the flight to EUG was for? It's not a scheduled passenger flight, so either a charter or positioning for a charter?
 
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:43 pm

mrwhizzard wrote:
SteveXC500 wrote:
If you know the reg#, or can find it, flightradar24 will sometimes show upcoming flights for the aircraft. However, SY is not very good at providing the info, so you might not find it as readily available as other carriers.

The tail number is N815SY, but it looks like fr24 has even less info than flightaware in this case (it is missing the flight to EUG this morning).

loisencroach wrote:
At the terminal? I didn't know they had enough parking spots to allow that. I assumed it would get towed somewhere else for RON. How many terminal parking spots are there with the new tent gate?

I have no idea if it was at the terminal.

Any idea what the flight to EUG was for? It's not a scheduled passenger flight, so either a charter or positioning for a charter?

Good question. The Oregon Ducks are playing at home for the next couple weekends. Maybe a charter flight to IFP?
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Re: SY announces new seasonal routes from MSP

Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:27 pm

lavalampluva wrote:
mrwhizzard wrote:
Any idea what the flight to EUG was for? It's not a scheduled passenger flight, so either a charter or positioning for a charter?

Good question. The Oregon Ducks are playing at home for the next couple weekends. Maybe a charter flight to IFP?

Good call. Flightaware now shows that aircraft flying to FNL this afternoon, so I'm guessing it's a charter for the Oregon State vs Colorado State football game in Fort Collins tomorrow.

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