DL operations in FLL and MIA

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N85M
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DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:53 pm

It seems to me that DL is bigger in FLL than MIA, is that a true statement?
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TheGeordielad
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:40 pm

According to Wikipedia Miami has
13 destinations and Fort Lauderdale
had 9 destinations.I don't know frequencies.Also this includes Delta Connection.
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Polot
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:00 pm

DL flies to more destinations from MIA, but carries more passengers from FLL. DL is the 2nd biggest carrier in MIA (after AA obviously), and the 4th largest in FLL (after B6, WN, and NK in that order).
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:08 pm

N85M wrote:
It seems to me that DL is bigger in FLL than MIA, is that a true statement?


www.flightstats.com doesn't make it quite as easy as they used to, but you can look at a carrier's departures for a day by airport code, eliminate codeshares (not regional carriers), click by departure to see airport type, and do a little seat count math.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Home/home.do
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simairlinenet
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:25 pm

Here is Delta's scheduled outbound data for 2016 (on a per day basis, so divided by 366). I added other Florida airports for kicks.

Airport...Flights...Seats...ASMs...Destinations
TPA...32.5...4,987...3,827,206...9
FLL...32.4...5,365...4,557,053...9
MIA...27.4 ...4,087...3,666,356...12
JAX...20.1...2,715...1,067,560...5
PBI...17.8...2,710...1,946,972...6
SRQ...7.0...1,051...536,579...3
PNS...6.8...1,122...305,266...1
VPS...6.6...749...187,333...1
GNV...6.2...394...118,666 ...1
TLH...6.2...652...146,782...1
EYW...4.8...510...330,181...1
DAB...4.4...714...262,160...1
MLB...4.1...552...244,501...1
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axiom
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:36 pm

simairlinenet wrote:
Here is Delta's scheduled outbound data for 2016 (on a per day basis, so divided by 366). I added other Florida airports for kicks.

Airport...Flights...Seats...ASMs...Destinations
TPA...32.5...4,987...3,827,206...9
FLL...32.4...5,365...4,557,053...9
MIA...27.4 ...4,087...3,666,356...12
JAX...20.1...2,715...1,067,560...5
PBI...17.8...2,710...1,946,972...6
SRQ...7.0...1,051...536,579...3
PNS...6.8...1,122...305,266...1
VPS...6.6...749...187,333...1
GNV...6.2...394...118,666 ...1
TLH...6.2...652...146,782...1
EYW...4.8...510...330,181...1
DAB...4.4...714...262,160...1
MLB...4.1...552...244,501...1


Fascinating, thanks! Is it easy to draw up numbers for MCO, too?

I arrive at the same destination count for FLL, but for TPA, I count 10 destinations (ATL, DTW, JFK, LGA, CVG, MSP, LAX, BOS, RDU, CUN -- and soon, SLC), and 13 for MIA (ATL, DTW, JFK, LGA, MSP, MCO, LAX, HAV, SLC, CMH, IND, RDU, DCA) -- What's missing?
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:45 pm

FLL has traditionally been a larger operation than MIA for DL. FLL was even once a focus city for DL with some more regional flights and more connections up the east coast. These days though it seems like almost everything goes through ATL.
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miaskies
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:47 pm

DL SFL Ops - Destinations Served:

Non-Stop from FLL:
ATL
BOS
CVG
DTW
MSP
JFK
LGA
RDU
SEA

Non-Stop from MIA:

ATL
CMH (Saturday only - E175 service)
DCA (Saturday only - E175 service)
DTW
HAV
IND (Saturday only - E175 service)
LAX
MSP
JFK
LGA
MCO
RDU (Saturday only - CR7 service)
SLC
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axiom
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:55 pm

On a related note, Delta obviously moves a huge amount of traffic to and from Florida and has historically had focus city operations in no less than three of the big markets, so it would be interesting to see if MCO, FLL, TPA and MIA all make it on a list of their 20 largest stations, in terms of seats and ASMs.
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N85M
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:00 pm

Thank you so much for your replies. I had that question on the back of my mind for a long time.
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dfwjim1
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:54 pm

I live near FLL I have noticed that Delta flies 763s and 764s on occasion from/to FLL during the high season in Florida.
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simairlinenet
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:00 pm

Sorry, not sure how MCO was omitted the first time--I asked it to pull all Florida.

Airport...Flights...Seats...ASMs...Destinations
MCO...53.5...9,376...9,175,605...26
TPA...32.5...4,987...3,827,206...9
FLL...32.4...5,365...4,557,053...9
MIA...27.4 ...4,087...3,666,356...12
JAX...20.1...2,715...1,067,560...5
PBI...17.8...2,710...1,946,972...6
SRQ...7.0...1,051...536,579...3
PNS...6.8...1,122...305,266...1
VPS...6.6...749...187,333...1
GNV...6.2...394...118,666 ...1
TLH...6.2...652...146,782...1
EYW...4.8...510...330,181...1
DAB...4.4...714...262,160...1
MLB...4.1...552...244,501...1
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TheGeordielad
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:16 pm

TheGeordielad wrote:
According to Wikipedia Miami has
12 destinations and Fort Lauderdale
had 9 destinations.I don't know frequencies.Also this includes Delta Connection.
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727LOVER
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:54 pm

miaskies wrote:
DL SFL Ops - Destinations Served:

Non-Stop from FLL:
ATL
BOS
CVG
DTW
MSP
JFK
LGA
RDU
SEA

Non-Stop from MIA:

ATL
CMH (Saturday only - E175 service)
DCA (Saturday only - E175 service)
DTW
HAV
IND (Saturday only - E175 service)
LAX
MSP
JFK
LGA
MCO
RDU (Saturday only - CR7 service)
SLC


So it's 9 destinations each
Really? We're counting Sat only service?

dfwjim1 wrote:
I live near FLL I have noticed that Delta flies 763s and 764s on occasion from/to FLL during the high season in Florida.


I was in S Florida for 34 days last week...I only saw 1 757 @ FLL from ANY airline. A few DL A321 and tons of UA 739
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:57 pm

N85M wrote:
It seems to me that DL is bigger in FLL than MIA, is that a true statement?


DL moved the bulk of their S Florida operations from MIA to FLL around 1972/1973

Actually, except for the obvious one, but isn't everybody (US & Canada) bigger @ FLL than MIA?
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:49 pm

727LOVER wrote:
I was in S Florida for 34 days last week...


That's impressive. I've only ever managed to fit 7 days into a week :).
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:09 pm

FSDan wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
I was in S Florida for 34 days last week...


That's impressive. I've only ever managed to fit 7 days into a week :).

yeah OOPS on that....make that 4 days ! LOL
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Re: DL operations in FLL and MIA

Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:20 pm

simairlinenet wrote:
Sorry, not sure how MCO was omitted the first time--I asked it to pull all Florida.

Airport...Flights...Seats...ASMs...Destinations
MCO...53.5...9,376...9,175,605...26
TPA...32.5...4,987...3,827,206...9
FLL...32.4...5,365...4,557,053...9
MIA...27.4 ...4,087...3,666,356...12
JAX...20.1...2,715...1,067,560...5
PBI...17.8...2,710...1,946,972...6
SRQ...7.0...1,051...536,579...3
PNS...6.8...1,122...305,266...1
VPS...6.6...749...187,333...1
GNV...6.2...394...118,666 ...1
TLH...6.2...652...146,782...1
EYW...4.8...510...330,181...1
DAB...4.4...714...262,160...1
MLB...4.1...552...244,501...1


Missed RSW too. I believe Delta is the largest carrier there.
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