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rondon9897
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Virgin A350/330

Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:14 pm

Hi folks,

Does anyone know whether pilots transferring from A340 and 747 to the A350 when it comes will operate the A330 too on the same type rating? I believe Cathay are doing this, but not sure. Also, will the 330 remain in the fleet long term or will it be replaced by 787s?
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:59 am

I think they would keep the A330, specially since Delta keeps opening new opportunities for VC. But if they did want to retire them, I am sure Delta would pick these young birds up in a minute.
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:27 am

Cathay Pacific is transferring some of their A330's to Cathay Dragon. Not all of them but some.


E.G B-LBG was with Cathay until the 22nd of February where it went to Xiamen and got repainted into the Cathay Dragon livery. It came back to Hong Kong with a KA callsign. The aircraft is only 2 years old.

Some others are a lot older but this is just an example
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:43 am

rondon9897 wrote:
Also, will the 330 remain in the fleet long term or will it be replaced by 787s?


The Virgin A330s are on 15 year leases. They aren't going anywhere.
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:12 am

Ten years, was it not?
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:38 am

They are about to refit J class in the A330's - they are not going anywhere.
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:24 pm

As Skip points out they are on a 10 year lease not 15 years.
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:06 am

VA will be better off once the 747, A346 retire and the cancel the A380. The B787, A330, and the A350 will serve them very well.
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:17 am

Beatyair wrote:
VA will be better off once the 747, A346 retire and the cancel the A380. The B787, A330, and the A350 will serve them very well.

VS is Virgin Atlantic.

VA is Virgin Australia, which has A332s and 77Ws and no equity relationship with DL.
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:10 am

Thanks chaps - anyone know if the A330/350 will be operated by same pool of pilots on same type rating, ir whether they'll be separate?
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:08 pm

EddieDude wrote:
Beatyair wrote:
VA will be better off once the 747, A346 retire and the cancel the A380. The B787, A330, and the A350 will serve them very well.

VS is Virgin Atlantic.

VA is Virgin Australia, which has A332s and 77Ws and no equity relationship with DL.


Don't forget about VX which is Virgin America! They have A320s and are owned by Alaska, which is AS!
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:29 pm

rondon9897 wrote:
Thanks chaps - anyone know if the A330/350 will be operated by same pool of pilots on same type rating, ir whether they'll be separate?



I have no insight into Virgin, but is seems natural to operate both these types with single set of crew. Finnair Is doing it, so is CX, (dont know about LH),it's got all the regulatory approvals from EASA etc.

Or if the powers that be at Virgin decide single fleet flying not viable for their organization, it would still be the easiest to move the A330 pilots onto the 350, as that requires minimum training - couple of days with a laptop, a couple of sessions in a MFTD (cockpit trailer) and not even a session of Full Flight Simulator (unłess the Airline decides to add it).

Here's an interesting link how Finnair does it:
https://www.halldale.com/files/halldale ... Vanska.pdf
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:30 pm

Yes word is that as per current the current situation where 330 pilots also fly the 340, when the 350 arrives the airbus pilots will be joint fleet 330/350.
 
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Re: Virgin A350/330

Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:34 pm

skipness1E wrote:
Ten years, was it not?


Cunard wrote:
As Skip points out they are on a 10 year lease not 15 years.


Yep, sorry - I was thinking about their 787s, at least some of them are on 15 year leases. My bad.

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