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amadorE175
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Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:52 am

sonnyville wrote:

I was wondering what are DL's plans for it's Asia routes. As they seem to be "de-hubbing NRT", in favor of operating direct flights to Asian destinations from SEA hub. Already they've axed SIN, BKK, and TPE is in question if not already axed. They seem to be relying on codeshare partners rather than use their own metal. And will DL continue to axe more Asian destinations as the JV with KE fell through, relying on codeshare/JV agreements with other Skyteam members?

It wouldn't make sense for DL to mount direct flights to MNL using their new flagship A350 to MNL with those new DL suites when MNL is low yield destination. The A350s will be designated for premium routes like China, Japan, Korea, and a possible return to SIN direct? If ever, I would reposition the A350 to do LAX-MNL as it would make more sense with the demand and market in LA/Socal.


1) The JV fell through? Last I checked they were still in the process of finalizing it. Do you have a source for this statement?

2) If anything, I think PR would be more likely to be the one flying the A350 MNL-SEA. Reports are that the A350 fleet will be focused on expanding US service so if PR has enough A350 around that'd be an option.
 
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Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:57 am

Considering the Port of SEA is more than a year late on the Int'l arrivals project. You can imagine DL Management is pretty furious internally at the Port right now. So don't expect much if any INTL expansion until this is complete.
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strfyr51
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Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:48 pm

usdcaguy wrote:
Darklord1 wrote:
What about sea-syd sometime in the future?


Seems unlikely. LAX-SYD needs support as it is. SEA-BLR might work, or at least SEA-DEL. For domestic, ABQ/AUS/STL/PIT might be some good markets.


Are you saying Delta doesn't feed it's flight to SYD or the flight doesn't generate much interest?? What kind of support are you referring TO??
 
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Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:25 pm

I know a lot of speculation on domestic/pacific routes with good reason on this thread. I think there could be a surprise going over the Atlantic, to say FRA or DUB even.
 
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Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:19 pm

factsonly wrote:
AAvgeek744 wrote:
factsonly wrote:

Remember DL already offers:
- SEA-HKG-DEL
- SEA-AMS-DEL 2x daily
- SEA-AMS-BOM
- SEA-AMS-BLR
- SEA-CDG-DEL
- SEA-CDG-BOM
- SEA-CDG-BLR



Same applies here, as DL already offers a very competitive:

- SEA-AMS-CPH 2x daily service
- SEA-AMS-BLL 2x daily service
- SEA-AMS-AAL 2x daily service
- SEA-CDG-CPH 1x daily
- SEA-CDG-BLL 1x daily


This is really inaccurate. It's obvious DL flies only the first leg of those international routes. Some people may assume they do all those one-stops.


'Commercially' DL does 'all those one-stops' !!

It is not about what the aircraft flies. What matters is what the airline sells !!

DL sells all of the above routes to get SEA customers to India and Denmark, and in doing so offers a competitive travel option in markets where non-stop service is not economic.


I know how marketing works. There are people on this site that don't. I would have included the phrase code-share or joint venture. Even people who fly and get moved to another airlines don't always know why.
 
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Devilfish
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Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:51 pm

WPvsMW wrote:
I could rephrase to "PR has historically underpriced all other airlines' nonstop service HNL/MNL until the competitor abandoned the route".

Then that's not "predatory pricing".....it's called competition. PR run their business to survive and profit -- just like most any other airline. :yes:
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michman
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Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:02 pm

amadorE175 wrote:
sonnyville wrote:

I was wondering what are DL's plans for it's Asia routes. As they seem to be "de-hubbing NRT", in favor of operating direct flights to Asian destinations from SEA hub. Already they've axed SIN, BKK, and TPE is in question if not already axed. They seem to be relying on codeshare partners rather than use their own metal. And will DL continue to axe more Asian destinations as the JV with KE fell through, relying on codeshare/JV agreements with other Skyteam members?

It wouldn't make sense for DL to mount direct flights to MNL using their new flagship A350 to MNL with those new DL suites when MNL is low yield destination. The A350s will be designated for premium routes like China, Japan, Korea, and a possible return to SIN direct? If ever, I would reposition the A350 to do LAX-MNL as it would make more sense with the demand and market in LA/Socal.


1) The JV fell through? Last I checked they were still in the process of finalizing it. Do you have a source for this statement?

2) If anything, I think PR would be more likely to be the one flying the A350 MNL-SEA. Reports are that the A350 fleet will be focused on expanding US service so if PR has enough A350 around that'd be an option.


JV deal was formally signed on June 23rd --

http://news.delta.com/delta-and-korean- ... nt-venture

And, as someone else has already pointed out, DL is still operating NRT-SIN and no termination date has been announced. Getting facts straight seems to have been a challenge for poster.
 
crazyplane1234
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Re: Delta future routes from Seattle

Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:06 am

strfyr51 wrote:
Are you saying Delta doesn't feed it's flight to SYD or the flight doesn't generate much interest?? What kind of support are you referring TO??

He's saying that SEA-SYD would cannibalise the LAX-SYD flight.

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