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B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:46 pm

Checking some random days

7 flights on Thursday March 30
8 flights on Friday March 31
9 flights on Saturday April 1


This is MORE than BOS-FLL or BOS-MCO. Its practically double BOS-TPA

Also, it is way more than JFK-RSW

9 flights and no one was even flying this before B6's buildup in BOS.

I am curious about the PDEW now vs 10 years ago
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:50 pm

Red Sox....
 
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:53 pm

Search JetBlue park and you might find your answer.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:09 pm

Spring training, spring break and school vacations... its the peak of the peak season
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:39 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
Spring training, spring break and school vacations... its the peak of the peak season


Really doesn't explain why there's more than MCO or FLL


...and again....
no one was even flying this before B6's buildup in BOS.????
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:42 pm

727LOVER wrote:
RL757PVD wrote:
Spring training, spring break and school vacations... its the peak of the peak season


Really doesn't explain why there's more than MCO or FLL


The Boston Red Sox spring training facility and stadium is located directly next to RSW property so it makes sense there would be an uptick in BOS-RSW flights during spring training.

On Monday, May 15 (as an example), there are only 4 BOS-RSW.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:56 pm

In addition to the other reason cited, the west coast of FL is cheaper, less crowded, and less glitzy than the east coast - and Orlando is for kids. Ft. Myers (Cape Coral, Sanibel, Port Charlotte, Marco Island, Naples, etc.) has long been favored by Midwesterners; but unfortunately in the last few years it has been "discovered".
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:56 pm

727LOVER wrote:

Really doesn't explain why there's more than MCO or FLL


...and again....
no one was even flying this before B6's buildup in BOS.????


Theres 10x PVD-MCO (7)/FLL(3) available yet 1x 7 week run of PVD-RSW on WN.

Unfortunately WN has too much else going on to worry about trying to grow PVD-RSW, I'd love to see B6 give it a shot seasonally... there is plenty of opportunity there, but both carriers have bigger fish to fry and until then BOS-RSW will continue to run away with it.

Meanwhile, good luck parking at BOS... parking lots are full all spring, Central parking maxed out again yesterday.
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:57 pm

727LOVER wrote:
...and again....
no one was even flying this before B6's buildup in BOS.????


And that's simply not true. Delta flew BOS-RSW as Delta Express starting in late 1996 and the route was transitioned over to Song when that brand was launched.
 
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:59 pm

Trying to kick NK out it seems... plot twist.. NOT working...
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:28 pm

As others have said, the Florida west coast really has been discovered over the last few years, but to understand this route, you really have to understand the relationship of Boston and its sports teams. It's pretty intense and more than a bit cult-like. Take a look at the StubHub price of seats for JetBlue park games. Good ones go for about $600 each! For pre-season baseball!! I also think that the presence of the pre-season Sox has been great PR for the area, and that has stimulated demand by people not going to the games down there.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:40 pm

In 90s US LGA-RSW was it until B6 came along.

Delta Express flew BOS RSW but no NYC RSW despite their large NYC presence in 90s

Long story short, NY goes to east coast of florida, midwest goes to west coast...but I dont know why BOS also pulls to Ft Myers. And yes, B6 really developed the multiple daily NYC/BOS-RSW market
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:41 pm

The main reason has already been explained but this is worth adding: New England has a greater affinity with the Gulf coast while New Yorkers have a greater affinity for the Atlantic coast. In leisure as in baseball, the two don't mix. Fort Myers beach is like Boston South.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:07 pm

Not that it's particularly germane, but RSW also draws heavily from the Midwest.

In the 90s DL had on-again-off-again MD-88 LGA-RSW service, usually no more than 1-2x/day in season.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:17 pm

727LOVER wrote:
Checking some random days

7 flights on Thursday March 30
8 flights on Friday March 31
9 flights on Saturday April 1


This is the start of MANY K-12 school spring breaks.

If you look at the beginning of May, they're down to 4 flights/ day.
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:19 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
In 90s US LGA-RSW was it until B6 came along.

Delta Express flew BOS RSW but no NYC RSW despite their large NYC presence in 90s

Long story short, NY goes to east coast of florida, midwest goes to west coast...but I dont know why BOS also pulls to Ft Myers. And yes, B6 really developed the multiple daily NYC/BOS-RSW market


That's not 100% correct. Yes, lots of New Yorkers go to Florida's east coast, but Tampa (on the west coast) also draws tons of New Yorkers as well. The Yankee's spring train in Tampa, which is another huge draw for New Yorkers to the west coast.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:07 pm

Probably for many of the same reasons that DL flies an A330 MSP-RSW.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:54 pm

tjwgrr wrote:
This is the start of MANY K-12 school spring breaks.

Not in Boston or New England for that matter. Our school vacation weeks were Feb 20-Mar3rd, and the next will be April 3rd-Apr14th.
However, March is Spring break month for most colleges and we sure have a lot of those around here.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:37 pm

clrd4t8koff wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
In 90s US LGA-RSW was it until B6 came along.

Delta Express flew BOS RSW but no NYC RSW despite their large NYC presence in 90s

Long story short, NY goes to east coast of florida, midwest goes to west coast...but I dont know why BOS also pulls to Ft Myers. And yes, B6 really developed the multiple daily NYC/BOS-RSW market


That's not 100% correct. Yes, lots of New Yorkers go to Florida's east coast, but Tampa (on the west coast) also draws tons of New Yorkers as well. The Yankee's spring train in Tampa, which is another huge draw for New Yorkers to the west coast.


Given the fact that New York has always been one of the 5 most populous states in the country, it's safe to say you're going to see New Yorkers all over Florida in large numbers. Doesn't matter if it's Dade County, Lee County, Orange County or Hilsborough County.


Don't forget all of the media that will shuttle between New England and Ft. Myers from February through March. I have a friend who is a cameraman for WBZ in Boston and the station sends multiple people back and fourth every week. He is friends with some of the guys from Providence stations and they will often send their people on BOS-RSW as well.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:08 pm

For whatever reason…and the Red Sox may be a part…Boston is much more like a Midwestern city in east/west split than an east coast city.

From Q1 2016 these are the top O+D markets to/from Fort Myers. These numbers are daily average passengers (both ways combined.)
1 …. 2066 …. MSP
2 …. 1956 …. BOS
3 …. 1851 …. ORD
4 …. 1836 …. DTW
5 …. 1086 …. EWR
6 …… 975 …. IND
7 …… 911 …. PHL
8 …… 890 …. MKE
9 …… 831 …. MDW
10 …. 820 …. JFK
11 …. 754 …. LGA
12 …. 683 …. BWI
13 …. 662 …. CLE
14 …. 623 …. BDL
15 …. 622 …. DCA
16 …. 606 …. CMH
17 …. 575 …. STL
18 …. 511 …. DEN
19 …. 486 …. ATL
20 …. 459 …. PIT
21 …. 421 …. CVG
22 …. 353 …. BUF
23 …. 300 …. GRR
24 …. 278 …. CAK
25 …. 274 …. PVD

Kind of remarkable that Boston is #2 out of Fort Myers, and it’s the only east coast airport to in the top 9. LaGuardia isn’t even in the top 10, with Indy (about 30%) and Milwaukee (about 20%) larger.

Another way to judge this (and point out how BOS is an outlier among east coast cities) is to compare the RSW to FLL ratio. I took those same RSW top 25 markets.
For every 100 Fort Lauderdale passenger, here's now many Fort Myers passengers there were.

heavy RSW favoring
….. rsw …….. fll ..… rsw for every 100 fll
….. 278 …….. 107 …………. 260 …………. CAK
… 2066 …….. 820 …………. 252 …………. MSP
….. 975 …….. 545 …………. 179 …………. IND
….. 890 …….. 517 …………. 172 …………. MKE
….. 300 …….. 184 …………. 163 …………. GRR
….. 606 …….. 489 …………. 124 …………. CMH
….. 575 …….. 479 …………. 120 …………. STL

relatively even split
… 1956 …… 1872 …………. 104 …………. BOS
….. 421 …….. 428 …………… 98 …………. CVG
… 1836 …… 1878 …………… 98 …………. DTW
… 1851 …… 1919 …………… 96 …………. ORD
….. 831 …….. 908 …………… 92 …………. MDW
….. 662 …….. 749 …………… 88 …………. CLE

heavy FLL favoring
….. 623 …….. 842 …………… 74 …………. BDL
….. 459 …….. 666 …………… 69 …………. PIT
… 1086 …… 2122 …………… 51 …………. EWR
….. 911 …… 1825 …………… 50 …………. PHL
….. 353 …….. 785 …………… 45 …………. BUF
….. 622 …… 1404 …………… 44 …………. DCA
….. 511 …… 1177 …………… 43 …………. DEN
….. 274 …….. 809 …………… 34 …………. PVD
….. 820 …… 2531 …………… 32 …………. JFK
….. 683 …… 2173 …………… 31 …………. BWI
….. 754 …… 2999 …………… 25 …………. LGA
….. 486 …… 2039 …………… 24 …………. ATL

Fort Lauderdale is sort of the gold standard of east coast Florida tourist airports. You'd expect a whole lot more FLL passengers from east coast airports than RSW passengers. But not in Boston. For every 100 BOS-FLL passengers there were actually more passengers (104) headed to RSW.

The next-ranking East Coast airport is Hartford at 74 RSW for every 100 FLL. Beyond that it’s 2:1, 3:1 or even 4:1 for FLL over RSW.
Boston definitely is an outlier from the traditional east coast/west coast Florida split.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:24 pm

I know Spirit also flies BOS-RSW twice daily sometimes in the "season". Delta just restarted service on this route too; I believe only twice weekly but year-round. When I worked down there one of the last flights of the night was a JetBlue E190 ton Boston and one of the first arrivals in the morning was from BOS.
 
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:49 pm

Of course Minneapolis/St.Paul is super cold in the winter and people are fleeing the cold but are there other reasons why the Fort Myers area is such a popular destination for folks from Minnesota?
 
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:08 pm

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1 …. 2066 …. MSP
2 …. 1956 …. BOS
3 …. 1851 …. ORD
4 …. 1836 …. DTW
5 …. 1086 …. EWR
6 …… 975 …. IND
7 …… 911 …. PHL
8 …… 890 …. MKE
9 …… 831 …. MDW
10 …. 820 …. JFK
11 …. 754 …. LGA
12 …. 683 …. BWI
13 …. 662 …. CLE
14 …. 623 …. BDL
15 …. 622 …. DCA
16 …. 606 …. CMH
17 …. 575 …. STL
18 …. 511 …. DEN
19 …. 486 …. ATL
20 …. 459 …. PIT
21 …. 421 …. CVG
22 …. 353 …. BUF
23 …. 300 …. GRR
24 …. 278 …. CAK
25 …. 274 …. PVD

Kind of remarkable that Boston is #2 out of Fort Myers, and it’s the only east coast airport to in the top 9.


Huh? You do realize PHL & EWR are both east coast airports, and both are in the top 9.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:43 pm

As a Boston resident, I can certainly attest to the fanaticism of the town's sports fans. Big Papi, and especially Tom Brady, are essentially gods.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:08 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
Of course Minneapolis/St.Paul is super cold in the winter and people are fleeing the cold but are there other reasons why the Fort Myers area is such a popular destination for folks from Minnesota?
I know the Twins aren't as popular as the Red Sox, but they also train in Ft Myers.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:11 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
Of course Minneapolis/St.Paul is super cold in the winter and people are fleeing the cold but are there other reasons why the Fort Myers area is such a popular destination for folks from Minnesota?


Probably not a huge reason but the Twins also have spring training in Fort Myers. From my experience, as someone who grew up in Wisconsin and lived in fort Myers for a few years, the gulf coast was always known to be a little more laid back and not as hectic as say Miami. The slower pace historically appealed to midwesterners more so than the Atlantic side.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:22 am

Yep NYC traffic stays on the Atlantic side (JAX, DAB, PBI, FLL, MIA) while the BOS traffic goes to the Gulf side (RSW, TPA etc)
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:29 am

List proved my point. Thank you very much
 
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:49 am

knope2001 wrote:
LaGuardia isn’t even in the top 10,


To be fair to LaGuardia which is slot restricted, it's also strategy for some carriers like AA to not to use too many if any slots for Florida destinations. With AA it's limited to just MIA which is a hub, and 1x daily to MCO. B6 also cut some Florida service recently to accomodate LGA-BOS. With it's limited slots, AA would rather use a LGA slot for a business market or where LGA is the business market for that market, than RSW or TPA. It might drive up fares on other carriers when a major carrier in NY refrains nonstop coverage.
 
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:57 am

clrd4t8koff wrote:
knope2001 wrote:
1 …. 2066 …. MSP
2 …. 1956 …. BOS
3 …. 1851 …. ORD
4 …. 1836 …. DTW
5 …. 1086 …. EWR
6 …… 975 …. IND
7 …… 911 …. PHL
8 …… 890 …. MKE
9 …… 831 …. MDW
10 …. 820 …. JFK
11 …. 754 …. LGA
12 …. 683 …. BWI
13 …. 662 …. CLE
14 …. 623 …. BDL
15 …. 622 …. DCA
16 …. 606 …. CMH
17 …. 575 …. STL
18 …. 511 …. DEN
19 …. 486 …. ATL
20 …. 459 …. PIT
21 …. 421 …. CVG
22 …. 353 …. BUF
23 …. 300 …. GRR
24 …. 278 …. CAK
25 …. 274 …. PVD

Kind of remarkable that Boston is #2 out of Fort Myers, and it’s the only east coast airport to in the top 9.


Huh? You do realize PHL & EWR are both east coast airports, and both are in the top 9.


Good lord...in too much of a hurry to get the information posted. PHL and EWR are of course east coast.
 
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:02 am

jfklganyc wrote:
In 90s US LGA-RSW was it until B6 came along


Continental flew EWR-RSW for as long as I can remember
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:39 pm

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Yep NYC traffic stays on the Atlantic side (JAX, DAB, PBI, FLL, MIA) while the BOS traffic goes to the Gulf side (RSW, TPA etc)


I don't understand why this is the second post stating this. NYC traffic does NOT stay on the Atlantic side. There is tons of NYC traffic to the east coast cities of FL, but Tampa/St. Pete/Clearwater has tons of NYC traffic for various reasons, the Yankees spring training being one.

Conversely, BOS traffic doesn't "go to the Gulf side." Yes, RSW sees a lot of BOS traffic, but so does FLL & MIA.

I don't understand how a question about why BOS-RSW has so many daily flights in spring turns into a NYC east coast vs. BOS west coast of Florida match. It's very intermixed.
 
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:56 pm

knope2001 wrote:
clrd4t8koff wrote:
knope2001 wrote:
1 …. 2066 …. MSP
2 …. 1956 …. BOS
3 …. 1851 …. ORD
4 …. 1836 …. DTW
5 …. 1086 …. EWR
6 …… 975 …. IND
7 …… 911 …. PHL
8 …… 890 …. MKE
9 …… 831 …. MDW
10 …. 820 …. JFK
11 …. 754 …. LGA
12 …. 683 …. BWI
13 …. 662 …. CLE
14 …. 623 …. BDL
15 …. 622 …. DCA
16 …. 606 …. CMH
17 …. 575 …. STL
18 …. 511 …. DEN
19 …. 486 …. ATL
20 …. 459 …. PIT
21 …. 421 …. CVG
22 …. 353 …. BUF
23 …. 300 …. GRR
24 …. 278 …. CAK
25 …. 274 …. PVD

Kind of remarkable that Boston is #2 out of Fort Myers, and it’s the only east coast airport to in the top 9.


Huh? You do realize PHL & EWR are both east coast airports, and both are in the top 9.


Good lord...in too much of a hurry to get the information posted. PHL and EWR are of course east coast.

Just to note, if EWR+JFK+LGA are summed, NYC is the top market...

Lovely area of Florida, too bad it was discovered...

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Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:29 pm

lightsaber wrote:
knope2001 wrote:
clrd4t8koff wrote:

Huh? You do realize PHL & EWR are both east coast airports, and both are in the top 9.


Good lord...in too much of a hurry to get the information posted. PHL and EWR are of course east coast.

Just to note, if EWR+JFK+LGA are summed, NYC is the top market...

Lovely area of Florida, too bad it was discovered...

Lightsaber


Bingo! This should disprove all the posters who are claiming NYC is only east coast of FL centric when the metro NYC is the largest source of traffic for RSW.
 
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:40 pm

clrd4t8koff wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
knope2001 wrote:

Good lord...in too much of a hurry to get the information posted. PHL and EWR are of course east coast.

Just to note, if EWR+JFK+LGA are summed, NYC is the top market...

Lovely area of Florida, too bad it was discovered...

Lightsaber


Bingo! This should disprove all the posters who are claiming NYC is only east coast of FL centric when the metro NYC is the largest source of traffic for RSW.


And you can add another 80+ a day for B6's flight out of HPN.
 
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:50 pm

Here's your answer no one else has given: Naples is a Boston suburb. Bottom line!
 
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:19 pm

727LOVER wrote:
RL757PVD wrote:
Spring training, spring break and school vacations... its the peak of the peak season


Really doesn't explain why there's more than MCO or FLL


...and again....
no one was even flying this before B6's buildup in BOS.????

MCO and FLL don't have the Red Sox
 
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:05 pm

bobnwa wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
RL757PVD wrote:
Spring training, spring break and school vacations... its the peak of the peak season


Really doesn't explain why there's more than MCO or FLL


...and again....
no one was even flying this before B6's buildup in BOS.????

MCO and FLL don't have the Red Sox


Nor are they big winter destinations for Greater Boston's almost-dead. Like a degree from Harvard and a big house in a W-town, for generations Bostonians have aspired to die in the warm sun of Naples and Palm Beach.
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:08 pm

It’s certainly true that if you use the metro airports (using the DoT’s definition) NYC is #1 at Fort Myers, edging out Chicago. However greater New York is tops based on sheer magnitude of population size more than anything. Here’s are Fort Myer’s top 10 using the DoT metro airport definitions, not just individual airport pairs which my first list had.

1. 2901 New York (JFK+LGA+EWR+HPN+ISP+SWF)
2. 2682 Chicago (ORD+MDW)
3. 2338 Boston (BOS+PVD+MHT)
4. 2066 Minneapolis
5. 1836 Detroit
6. 1372 Washington (DCA+BWI+IAD)
7. 975 Indianapolis IND
8. 940 Cleveland (CLE+CAK)
9. 911 Philadelphia
10. 890 Milwaukee

But in comparing traffic mix between Fort Myers and South Florida It’s about the ratios more than simple passenger numbers. Otherwise it's just a measure of "bigger cities create more traffic". Check out the same list of top 10 markets from South Florida and compare. (This is sticking with the DoT metro airport definition so it’s FLL+MIA). I’ll also add the rest of Fort Myer’s top 10 for comparison

1. 16,052 New York (JFK+LGA+HPN+ISP+SFW)
2. 7596 Washington (DCA+BWI+IAD)
3. 4794 Chicago (ORD+MDW)
4. 4360 Boston (BOS+PVD+MHT)
5. 3646 Los Angeles (LAX+SNA+BUR+ONT+LGB)
6. 3644 Atlanta
7. 3144 Philadelphia
8. 2778 Detroit
9. 2270 Dallas (DFW+DAL)
10. 2082 Denver
14. 1620 Minneapolis
15. 1140 Cleveland
22. 812 Indianapolis
30. 607 Milwaukee

New York is tops on both lists. But look at how the lists compare. In Fort Myers the six NYC airports combine to only surpass Chicago by a small margin. In South Florida the NYC area is a monster versus everybody else. Here are a few specific comparisions.

NYC versus other large markets in Fort Myers
Chicago is 92% of NYC
Boston 81% of NYC
Minneapolis is 72% of NYC

NYC versus those same markets to South Florida
Chicago is 30% of NYC
Boston 27% of NYC
Minneapolis is 10% of NYC

Finally I pulled total passengers for both RSW and MIA/FLL splitting up the country by East (east of the Alleghenies) Central (between the Rockies and Alleghenies) and West (in and west of the Rockies). Here’s the distribution of traffic:

Fort Myers
55.4% Central
38.8% East
5.8% West

South Florida (MIA/FLL)
51.7% East
34.4% Central
13.9% West

The mix of East versus Central goes from +17.3 points in the east to -16.6 points in the west, a swing of nearly 34 points. And that’s even with Boston unusually well-represented in Fort Myers.

It's not that the west coast of Florida doesn't have people from the northeast. But there is still a tendency for the central US to be heavier on the west coast and people from the east to be heavier on the Atlantic side. And Boston is must more split...similar to Chicago....compared to other east coast cities.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:12 pm

My niece and her husband live in Ft. Meyers. They say this time of the year makes it intolerable with traffic, getting into restaurants, etc.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:28 pm

affordable, income tax-free retirement for former MA/RI/CT/NH state employees who are collecting state pensions. i know of one neighborhood near port charlotte that is almost exclusively retired CT corrections officers.

this even led to a bill being proposed by a republican in the CT legislature that would penalize those receiving a state pension who live out of state. of course it was DOA because of the power of the unions.
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:19 pm

dfwjim1 wrote:
Of course Minneapolis/St.Paul is super cold in the winter and people are fleeing the cold but are there other reasons why the Fort Myers area is such a popular destination for folks from Minnesota?


My parents live in the RSW area. Historically, the area has heavily drawn relocations, retirees, and snow birds from the midwest/upper midwest (and Toronto). Certainly not exclusively, as I know east coasters who live there too, but there has been a distinct tilt toward places such as WI/MN/MI, etc for the RSW area population. I think this is changing with time, but has been skewed this way historically.

RSW is still a heavy snowbird area, so the air service drops significantly in summer. But in season, DL has seasonal service to CVG, CMH, IND, F9 to CMH, IND, MKE, STL, WN to FNT, GRR, MCI, MKE, NK to CAK, CLE, LBE, UA to CLE.

A couple of those cities have year-round service from WN, but most of them only have their seasonal non-stops.

That gives you an idea about at least some of the historical regional draw of the area.

(Germans also really like RSW, but that's a different matter)
 
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:32 pm

Naples though tends to be much more of a Boston/New York crowd.
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Re: B6 BOS-RSW...why so many flights?

Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:08 am

TransGlobalGold wrote:
My niece and her husband live in Ft. Meyers. They say this time of the year makes it intolerable with traffic, getting into restaurants, etc.


I live in the Fort Lauderdale area and went out to lunch yesterday afternoon at a restaurant on the beach. First it was difficult to find a place to park and second I had to wait some time for table even though it was past 1 pm.

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