Bravo! If we still had a respected user list, I would add you. Fair or not, when a cop tells you to get off the plane, it's up to you to get off the plane. You can try bullying the gate agent, but the police have the authority to go to step 3 -- MAKE, and it's entirely your choice as to how bruised you are going to be when getting off the plane. But that you are getting off the plane is not in doubt. It is the police's obligation not to back down, so confronting them is going to end in tears 100 percent of the time. The "doctor" was the self-important jerk. If the "doctor" had "patients in the morning", there was doubtless some other way that he could get home in time to see them. But fighting the cops is not going to make that happen.
There's one fundamental issue in your logic and that is that the doctor had done absolutely nothing wrong. He was a paying customer sitting in his assigned seat and had already completed boarding. I've seen your argument before and it's what "justifies" any cop dragging a motorist from their vehicle and beating the living shit out of them because of a broken tail light. Or maybe the steakhouse waitress grabs back every meal on your table to give them to someone else, tells you to leave and then has the bouncer smash your face into the table as he drags your "law-breaking" customer ass out the door.
Want to know how right I am about this? Look at the media shit storm and wait for the payout news. There's law enforcement against known criminals or people in the act of breaking the law and then there's just plain ignorance and stupidity. This is the latter. How else do you describe a company making an error and the net result is a bloodied customer being filmed dragged forcibly off a plane? It's a colossal fuck up 100% of UA's own doing.
Nope. Not right. Fighting the cops is stupid 100 percent of the time.
And the media storm actually does everyone a disservice, because it emboldens people to act in a way that imperils their safety. When a law enforcement officer tells you to do something like get off the plane or get out of the bar, you comply and then work out the rights and wrongs of the situation later. That's what you are legally-required to do in the US. That's the law. Whether the media think it's "unfair" or not.
United may or may not have done something stupid by choosing to revoke this guy's license to fly on their plane in order to put a positive space company employee in his seat. Moreover, United deserves massive criticism for imperiously-escalating the situation to a confrontation, and probably should have evaluated the particular passenger's need to travel (although all passengers can gin up a "need to travel", which most of the time is horsepucky). If the doctor disagreed with their decision, he had an absolute right to demand compensation from the airline and to bring it up with customer service or go to the media about that.
No problem so far. United might have been in the wrong -- like your waitress -- for ejecting the patron.
However, once the airline representative made clear that he was going to have to get off the flight, doing anything other than getting off and talking to them at the podium is the wrong move. That is on him. Because at that point, he's imposing on the rest of us who just want to get home. Sorry for your problem. It's not my problem. Get off, and work it out politely.
When the police then come, you're obligated to get off. And they're obligated to get you off. ASK, TELL, MAKE, as another poster put it. Deciding to have a physical confrontation with the police is just stupid. And illegal. And very bad judgment.
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