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Cathay Pacific confirms new first class and business class for upcoming 777-9's

Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:10 am

Cathay Pacific has confirmed that a new first class and business class seating will be installed on the upcoming Boeing 777-9's

Cathay Pacific will use the arrival of the Boeing 777-9X to debut a new generation of first class suites and business class seats, cementing Boeing’s largest bird as the flagship of Cathay’s fleet for the next decade.

“At the moment we’re looking at what’s the optimal configuration for first class on the Boeing 777-9X,” James Evans, Cathay Pacific's General Manager of Product, revealed to Australian Business Traveller.

Cathay is also considering adopting fully-enclosed first class suites similar those of Singapore Airlines, Emirates and Etihad.


https://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-confirm ... ing-777-9x
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:17 am

"Boeing's largest bird?" Wow. The 748 is 25% heavier, has 20% greater wing area, has greater interior cabin width and floor area and seats 60 more passengers in a 3 class config and 130 more in single class than the 779.

Wing size is determined by area, not span. The 779 has a significantly smaller wing so the span is an irrelevant measurement.
So the 779 is 1 foot longer than the 748. Equally meaningless as it is narrower and has no upper deck.

This disrespect for the 748 is getting old...
 
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:33 am

It will be very interesting to hear more details. I am sure they will announce something big and truly desirable if they want to stay relevant.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:41 am

I think the CX J seats on the 77Ws are the best out there, but the catering is sad even for premium economy. If they refreshed and updated the onboard service with the current seats, the product could last another decade.
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Re: Cathay Pacific confirms new first class and business class for upcoming 777-9's

Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:57 am

If they plan to keep the reverse herringbone configuration, there's not much else you can do with what you have on the A350.

Probably a bigger screen with 4K resolution, probably a relocation of the remote control, outlets, storage knooks and crannies and enhanced finish and trim. If there is a drastic change, it will be most likely the bed length and width.

If you'll see any drastic changes, it'll probably be in F. But I kind of like it the way it is. It just needs a bigger and better screen, connectivity options like in the J seat of the A350, probably better storage options and that's about it.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific confirms new first class and business class for upcoming 777-9's

Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:37 am

SCAT15F wrote:
Wing size is determined by area, not span.

Depends on the application. Gate/taxiway/runway utilization couldn't care less about area, only span... and neither are an inconsequential consideration for aircraft ops.

SCAT15F wrote:
This disrespect for the 748 is getting old...

One could easily argue that a model so thoroughly rejected by the overwhelmingly majority of the market, deserves no respect. :-P
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:27 am

CX stays on the cutting edge. It's almost hard to keep track of how many times they referb J/F.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:56 am

From the concepts I have seen, some features are cutting edge.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:00 am

The surprise may be they are keeping First Class on their 777-9 fleet. One 777-9 operator, Lufthansa, has announced the high class will be Business which is surprising since LH has always been a big First Class airline. Cathay will probably do a suite in their 777-9 First Class.
 
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:07 pm

AA should announce a new F cabin as well. Their cabins have been in flux for more than a decade now, so it would be business as usual.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:51 pm

Maybe a seat provider switch? Everybody seems to be having problems with Zodiac. Even CX, whose new 359 seats are being redone already.

Byrdluvs747 wrote:
AA should announce a new F cabin as well. Their cabins have been in flux for more than a decade now, so it would be business as usual.

Yep. Maybe something with more privacy (like a door) but keep the sky office dealt thing. seems to have a bit of appeal among business pax and travel bloggers alike :)
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Re: Cathay Pacific confirms new first class and business class for upcoming 777-9's

Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:00 pm

SCAT15F wrote:
"Boeing's largest bird?" Wow. The 748 is 25% heavier, has 20% greater wing area, has greater interior cabin width and floor area and seats 60 more passengers in a 3 class config and 130 more in single class than the 779.

Wing size is determined by area, not span. The 779 has a significantly smaller wing so the span is an irrelevant measurement.
So the 779 is 1 foot longer than the 748. Equally meaningless as it is narrower and has no upper deck.

This disrespect for the 748 is getting old...


That "Boeing's largest bird" part is not/no longer in the original article.

Either ausbt changed their article, or the thread starter decided to spice things up a bit . . .
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Re: Cathay Pacific confirms new first class and business class for upcoming 777-9's

Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:19 pm

PW100 wrote:
SCAT15F wrote:
"Boeing's largest bird?" Wow. The 748 is 25% heavier, has 20% greater wing area, has greater interior cabin width and floor area and seats 60 more passengers in a 3 class config and 130 more in single class than the 779.

Wing size is determined by area, not span. The 779 has a significantly smaller wing so the span is an irrelevant measurement.
So the 779 is 1 foot longer than the 748. Equally meaningless as it is narrower and has no upper deck.

This disrespect for the 748 is getting old...


That "Boeing's largest bird" part is not/no longer in the original article.

Either ausbt changed their article, or the thread starter decided to spice things up a bit . . .


austbt has a habit of changing the article after first published, its not the only article they have edited today after it was originally published
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Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:17 pm

johnclipper wrote:
From the concepts I have seen, some features are cutting edge.


Can you share any examples?
 
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Mon May 01, 2017 3:13 am

Sorry, can't - signed a NDA doing my one-on-one evaluation at Cathay City...
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Re: Cathay Pacific confirms new first class and business class for upcoming 777-9's

Mon May 01, 2017 3:32 am

Good to hear this.

I remember there were rumours saying that CX will not keep first class. So they are keeping first class in the long run. Good.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific confirms new first class and business class for upcoming 777-9's

Mon May 01, 2017 4:00 am

SCAT15F wrote:
"Boeing's largest bird?" Wow. The 748 is 25% heavier, has 20% greater wing area, has greater interior cabin width and floor area and seats 60 more passengers in a 3 class config and 130 more in single class than the 779.

Wing size is determined by area, not span. The 779 has a significantly smaller wing so the span is an irrelevant measurement.
So the 779 is 1 foot longer than the 748. Equally meaningless as it is narrower and has no upper deck.

This disrespect for the 748 is getting old...


Its no disrespect unfortunately the world is moving to 2 engine planes. I wish otherwise but it is where the world is heading and the thinking.
 
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Re: Cathay Pacific confirms new first class and business class for upcoming 777-9's

Mon May 01, 2017 4:15 am

Would be interesting if Cathay Pacific does enclosed suites for first and business class.

Byrdluvs747 wrote:
AA should announce a new F cabin as well. Their cabins have been in flux for more than a decade now, so it would be business as usual.

I think it is more likely USdbaAA would remove F, than announce a new F cabin, as its management came from an airline with no F.
 
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Mon May 01, 2017 4:42 am

Austin787 wrote:
Would be interesting if Cathay Pacific does enclosed suites for first and business class.

Byrdluvs747 wrote:
AA should announce a new F cabin as well. Their cabins have been in flux for more than a decade now, so it would be business as usual.

I think it is more likely USdbaAA would remove F, than announce a new F cabin, as its management came from an airline with no F.

I thought Doug et al wanted to keep F for ultra high yielding routes? A "office-bed" with a door and maybe a wider seat would be nice...
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