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Woman Says Man Groped Her On United Flight And Attendants Kept Bringing Him Whiskeys

Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:06 pm

More United...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/uni ... 7e2046f8bd

Jennifer Rafieyan says she and her 12-year-old daughter were awaiting takeoff on a United Airlines flight from Newark, New Jersey, to Phoenix last month when they watched a flight attendant seat a visibly drunk man in the empty aisle seat next to them.

The man was intoxicated enough that the attendant had to guide him by his hips, Rafieyan recalled, and two attendants warned her about him.

“[One attendant] made some comment to me like, ‘This is going to be an interesting flight,’ and looked at him,” Rafieyan, 47, said. “And then the other flight attendant came up and said, ‘Let me know if you need anything. I mean it’― and she looked at him.”

Over the course of the next five and a half hours, Rafieyan says the 64-year-old repeatedly groped her and sexually harassed her. He rubbed her legs, grabbed her knee, kissed her hands, put his head on her shoulder and snatched her pen and notepad to add “PASIONAT NITE XX” to the to-do list she was writing, she said.

“That really grossed me out,” Rafieyan said. “My daughter was right there.”

Rafieyan, a married mother of two from Warren, New Jersey, said she was too “meek” to confront the man.

“I don’t react well. I freeze,” she said. “When a man is inappropriate with me, I usually just run from it and maybe tell somebody. But I felt trapped. I couldn’t leave the seat because I didn’t trust him near my daughter.”
 
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:12 pm

everyone wants a piece now.
 
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:31 pm

And United offered four $100 vouchers. Why four, not enough chance they would be molested again with one $400 voucher. So that is three people in about as many days - maybe they can do a class action lawsuit.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:48 pm

I'm sure we're going to here a lot more stories, and I'm sure there are plenty of stories at other airlines. It's going to be a big story until a bigger one comes along.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:51 pm

I'm kinda sick of all these people crawling out of the woodwork with their anti United stories. They may all be true but they don't happen to any other airline in any other country?
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:25 pm

Well, this could lead to more problems for UA, but I think it could very well numb everyone to the story and people will lose interest.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:28 pm

There are good flight attendants on United too! I flew to ORD many years ago and some of them were giving me random fist bumps. So you can't blame a whole airline for the irresponsible actions of a few, as unfortunate as these occurrences are.
 
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:34 pm

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There are good flight attendants on United too! I flew to ORD many years ago and some of them were giving me random fist bumps.
Huh?
 
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:39 pm

Wow, how many other 'stories' will come out now.
 
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:41 pm

Eirules wrote:
I'm kinda sick of all these people crawling out of the woodwork with their anti United stories. They may all be true but they don't happen to any other airline in any other country?


Of course they do, but not as common. Perhaps it is time to wonder if there is some systemic problem in the United corporate culture? Over the years I've had my own unpleasant United encounters, just as maaany others have. There are of course lots of good people who work for United too (I know one), but in the last decade I have avoided them whenever I can.
 
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:47 pm

Surprised the Untied.com website isn't getting more prominence. That website has been documenting passenger complaints on UA since when the Battleship Grey was only a few years old!
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:49 pm

This woman waited an entire month to come out with this story? If it was that bad just maybe she would have said something before, preferably as she was getting off the plane. 15-minutes of fame over.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:14 am

727200 wrote:
This woman waited an entire month to come out with this story? If it was that bad just maybe she would have said something before, preferably as she was getting off the plane. 15-minutes of fame over.


Sexual molestation cases can sometimes take decades to be reported by their victims. For many valid and documented reasons too.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:19 am

How long will it be before we see all the "air ambulance chasers" lawyers come out of the woodwork.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:29 am

ChrisFallon77 wrote:
How long will it be before we see all the "air ambulance chasers" lawyers come out of the woodwork.

I bet those vultures are already getting out ads to get clients to sue for every little issue they had with UA, and other airlines.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:59 am

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This guy must have asked for free flights in exchange for good press and been denied or something. His opinion pieces start with "bash United" and fill in the details later.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:46 am

If these types of stories continue to come out it will be interesting to see whether these allegations will cause people to lose interest, or whether they will add fuel to the fire. The interesting thing is most other airlines have situations like these happen just as much as United, but they aren't getting leaked to the press.
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:10 am

Wait, you're complaining about being harassed but we're too meek to speak up? If there's a problem, it is your responsibility to tell the crew so they can address it!

Summary: I am upset at United because they didn't stand next to my seat to insure I was ok.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:10 am

"I'm too meek" to defend myself.

No sympathy. The first time he touches intentionally like that you yell at him and call the FA.

It's a public environment. You aren't in danger of escalating. And you would set a strong example for your daughter.
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:17 am

Eirules wrote:
I'm kinda sick of all these people crawling out of the woodwork with their anti United stories. They may all be true but they don't happen to any other airline in any other country?


I'm not. This is exactly how PR works. And this is why you jump on the grenade immediately.

Munoz threw gas on the fire with that employee email. I hope he gets "re-accomodated" to the unemployment line.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:06 pm

PlanesNTrains wrote:
I'm sure we're going to here a lot more stories, and I'm sure there are plenty of stories at other airlines. It's going to be a big story until a bigger one comes along.


It's not uncommon for victims to start coming out once one does - they feel more comfortable and that they'll be taken more seriously. Look at Bill Cosby and how many came out after the initial one, once they saw that people actually were taking it seriously and weren't automatically labeled as liars.

I'm sure it does happen on other airlines, but either it's not happening as much, or there isn't something major at AA, DL, WN, or whomever that made victims of those airlines feel comfortable speaking up.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:50 pm

ikramerica wrote:
"I'm too meek" to defend myself.

No sympathy. The first time he touches intentionally like that you yell at him and call the FA.

It's a public environment. You aren't in danger of escalating. And you would set a strong example for your daughter.


There are varying personality types. Not everybody is as macho as you.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:36 pm

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It's a public environment. You aren't in danger of escalating. And you would set a strong example for your daughter.


Yes its public environment, and the doctor got shit kicked out of him.

Most of the flight attendants don't give a shit. You tell them that somebody is unruly next to you and all they will do is tell you 'tough luck'.
Or FA will tell you to be quiet, otherwise you will be arrested upon landing for disobeying flight crew.

Obviously that drunk passenger was GS or 1K. FA would be on his side. That's the sad truth.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:37 pm

So given everything that has happened, and all the arguments for the doctor, did UA have the right to kick this drunk guy off the flight? What were they to do? He wasn't a threat to the safety of the aircraft. He was in his seat, he boarded. So, now that UA pledged not to have LEOs come on aircraft and forcibly remove passengers, what's the recourse? At the moment he sat down, he wasn't belligerent or committing any crimes (sexual harassment came later, during the flight). In the future, if the same situation happens, what should an airline do?
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:58 pm

What should have happened is the woman should have firmly asked for either the drunk be moved or they be moved and if necessary to stand in the aisle until something was done. Sadly due to the pricing of seats, more packed flights, few wanting to move from preferred seats and fear of getting arrested or put on a no-fly list few will want to go far enough. Sorry, but if someone was acting improperly with my child, friend or spouse, I would take the firmest actions I could short of ending up being arrested.
This of course brings up the serious issue of passengers being under influence of drugs or alcohol and safety if an emergency. An intoxicated passenger, by that a level that would make it illegal to drive in most countries, could put themselves and others at risk if an emergency, especially on take off and landing and being able to escape safely from the aircraft.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:19 pm

I'm pretty sure I was abducted by a NOT-OF-THIS-WORLD space craft on my last flight to Indy. Or was it the Jack?
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:28 pm

The second time a drunk, or anyone else, sexually assaults someone should be time for a flight emergency to be declared. But police can be radioed, flight officer can declare that person is arrested and police will be meeting the plane. Obviously if you are mid ocean and no marshals aboard asking several husky guys is about all you can do.
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:13 pm

hoya wrote:
So given everything that has happened, and all the arguments for the doctor, did UA have the right to kick this drunk guy off the flight? What were they to do? He wasn't a threat to the safety of the aircraft. He was in his seat, he boarded. So, now that UA pledged not to have LEOs come on aircraft and forcibly remove passengers, what's the recourse? At the moment he sat down, he wasn't belligerent or committing any crimes (sexual harassment came later, during the flight). In the future, if the same situation happens, what should an airline do?



Just post it on social media and let the clowns who don't work, have nothing to do but troll, and sure don't have any responsibility decide since they are the ones who are making such a mess on social media. I hope some drunk, pervert, sexual deviant sits next to them and then they will want something done.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:03 pm

dcaviation wrote:
ikramerica wrote:
It's a public environment. You aren't in danger of escalating. And you would set a strong example for your daughter.


Yes its public environment, and the doctor got shit kicked out of him.

Most of the flight attendants don't give a shit. You tell them that somebody is unruly next to you and all they will do is tell you 'tough luck'.
Or FA will tell you to be quiet, otherwise you will be arrested upon landing for disobeying flight crew.

Obviously that drunk passenger was GS or 1K. FA would be on his side. That's the sad truth.


Two separate flight attendants told her to call them if there were problems.

hoya wrote:
So given everything that has happened, and all the arguments for the doctor, did UA have the right to kick this drunk guy off the flight? What were they to do? He wasn't a threat to the safety of the aircraft. He was in his seat, he boarded. So, now that UA pledged not to have LEOs come on aircraft and forcibly remove passengers, what's the recourse? At the moment he sat down, he wasn't belligerent or committing any crimes (sexual harassment came later, during the flight). In the future, if the same situation happens, what should an airline do?


I drunk guy that has to be physically led to a seat should never be put on a plane.
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:05 pm

I want some money too. I'm gonna have to come up with a good story of my own.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:31 pm

This is such a joke. Just shows how corrupt and horrible the media is. They are willing to destroy the fate of an entire company for more views.
 
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:40 pm

gregn21 wrote:
This is such a joke. Just shows how corrupt and horrible the media is. They are willing to destroy the fate of an entire company for more views.


United are doing a pretty damn good job of that all on their own!
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Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:55 pm

dcaviation wrote:
Obviously that drunk passenger was GS or 1K. FA would be on his side. That's the sad truth.


Very doubtful that a GS or 1K, especially a GS, would be sitting in coach.

PlanesNTrains wrote:
Two separate flight attendants told her to call them if there were problems.


They did?
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:06 am

hoya wrote:
So given everything that has happened, and all the arguments for the doctor, did UA have the right to kick this drunk guy off the flight? What were they to do? He wasn't a threat to the safety of the aircraft. He was in his seat, he boarded. So, now that UA pledged not to have LEOs come on aircraft and forcibly remove passengers, what's the recourse? At the moment he sat down, he wasn't belligerent or committing any crimes (sexual harassment came later, during the flight). In the future, if the same situation happens, what should an airline do?


Oh boy! I can't wait for the moment where United actually actually has to get LEOs to take a belligerent passenger off the plane, Munoz is going to eat his words soon or later.
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:08 am

gregn21 wrote:
This is such a joke. Just shows how corrupt and horrible the media is. They are willing to destroy the fate of an entire company for more views.


The media wouldn't have anything to report on if United did the right thing. That's the media's job, they report on current events, they would be doing a disservice if they didn't report on it.
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:09 am

IPFreely wrote:
dcaviation wrote:
Obviously that drunk passenger was GS or 1K. FA would be on his side. That's the sad truth.


Very doubtful that a GS or 1K, especially a GS, would be sitting in coach.

PlanesNTrains wrote:
Two separate flight attendants told her to call them if there were problems.


They did?


The man was intoxicated enough that the attendant had to guide him by his hips, Rafieyan recalled, and two attendants warned her about him.

“[One attendant] made some comment to me like, ‘This is going to be an interesting flight,’ and looked at him,” Rafieyan, 47, said. “And then the other flight attendant came up and said, ‘Let me know if you need anything. I mean it’― and she looked at him.”

You got me. One said "Call me if...", the other showed "concern". :-)
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:31 am

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The man was intoxicated enough that the attendant had to guide him by his hips, Rafieyan recalled, and two attendants warned her about him.

“[One attendant] made some comment to me like, ‘This is going to be an interesting flight,’ and looked at him,” Rafieyan, 47, said. “And then the other flight attendant came up and said, ‘Let me know if you need anything. I mean it’― and she looked at him.”

You got me. One said "Call me if...", the other showed "concern". :-)


Sorry but I'm not taking her word for that when she was quoted by the Huffington Post, attributing a quote to a flight attendant about an incident she suddenly remembered that happened weeks ago. Pretty low credibility.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:21 am

IPFreely wrote:
PlanesNTrains wrote:
The man was intoxicated enough that the attendant had to guide him by his hips, Rafieyan recalled, and two attendants warned her about him.

“[One attendant] made some comment to me like, ‘This is going to be an interesting flight,’ and looked at him,” Rafieyan, 47, said. “And then the other flight attendant came up and said, ‘Let me know if you need anything. I mean it’― and she looked at him.”

You got me. One said "Call me if...", the other showed "concern". :-)


Sorry but I'm not taking her word for that when she was quoted by the Huffington Post, attributing a quote to a flight attendant about an incident she suddenly remembered that happened weeks ago. Pretty low credibility.


Well, that's your choice. I'm sure if there's proof, it'll come out. There were obviously other passengers around, a record of who was next to her, her daughter's statements, interviews with the F/As, receipts from his debit/credit card showing alcohol purchases, receipts from the drinks he ordered on the flight, etc. I don't care one way or the other, though. I'm just sharing what was stated in the article in answer to your query.
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:02 am

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Well, that's your choice. I'm sure if there's proof, it'll come out. There were obviously other passengers around, a record of who was next to her, her daughter's statements, interviews with the F/As, receipts from his debit/credit card showing alcohol purchases, receipts from the drinks he ordered on the flight, etc. I don't care one way or the other, though. I'm just sharing what was stated in the article in answer to your query.


Normally when there are crimes or potential crimes on board, police are notified and meet the plane at the gate on arrival. In extreme cases the plane might divert so the passenger can be removed and dealt with by police sooner. In this case the woman said the FA threatened to have the plane diverted because of his behavior. If his behavior was bad enough to warrant such a threat -- not something done lightly -- it was surely bad enough to have the police meet the plane on arrival in Phoenix. To at least take statements and document the incident in a report, if not to make an arrest. But no such thing happened. The more one looks at the details, the less believable this story becomes.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:38 am

IPFreely wrote:
PlanesNTrains wrote:
Well, that's your choice. I'm sure if there's proof, it'll come out. There were obviously other passengers around, a record of who was next to her, her daughter's statements, interviews with the F/As, receipts from his debit/credit card showing alcohol purchases, receipts from the drinks he ordered on the flight, etc. I don't care one way or the other, though. I'm just sharing what was stated in the article in answer to your query.


Normally when there are crimes or potential crimes on board, police are notified and meet the plane at the gate on arrival. In extreme cases the plane might divert so the passenger can be removed and dealt with by police sooner. In this case the woman said the FA threatened to have the plane diverted because of his behavior. If his behavior was bad enough to warrant such a threat -- not something done lightly -- it was surely bad enough to have the police meet the plane on arrival in Phoenix. To at least take statements and document the incident in a report, if not to make an arrest. But no such thing happened. The more one looks at the details, the less believable this story becomes.


Well, again, it's up to you if you believe it. As she said, she's non-confrontational and just sort of froze up on the whole thing. Not everyone knows how to deal with crap - if they did, we wouldn't have people coming out of the woodwork later. That doesn't mean it's legit - but just because she didn't follow a script on how to deal with uncomfortable situations doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:42 am

IPFreely wrote:
Normally when there are crimes or potential crimes on board, police are notified and meet the plane at the gate on arrival. In extreme cases the plane might divert so the passenger can be removed and dealt with by police sooner. In this case the woman said the FA threatened to have the plane diverted because of his behavior. If his behavior was bad enough to warrant such a threat -- not something done lightly -- it was surely bad enough to have the police meet the plane on arrival in Phoenix. To at least take statements and document the incident in a report, if not to make an arrest. But no such thing happened. The more one looks at the details, the less believable this story becomes.


Or, when someone who has been sexually assaulted comes forward they get responses like this. You get the doubters, the whatabouters, and so-on. Perhaps this woman, rather than have to defend herself against the drunkard, his lawyers, United's lawyers, and folks like you, perhaps she decided that she'd prefer it all go away. Or perhaps she didn't want to scare her child in the heat of the moment. Plenty of reasons to not come forward until later.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:20 am

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"I'm too meek" to defend myself.

No sympathy. The first time he touches intentionally like that you yell at him and call the FA.

It's a public environment. You aren't in danger of escalating. And you would set a strong example for your daughter.


Great to see the usual players come in to victim blame and cheerlead for their favorite airline. Nothing ever changes.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:28 am

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I want some money too. I'm gonna have to come up with a good story of my own.


Claim the pilot asked if you had ever seen a grown man naked or been to a Turkish prison.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:17 am

vrbarreto wrote:
ASFlyer wrote:
I want some money too. I'm gonna have to come up with a good story of my own.


Claim the pilot asked if you had ever seen a grown man naked or been to a Turkish prison.


They will just say that you asked for it because you said you wanted to go into the cockpit.
 
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Re: Woman Says Man Groped Her On United Flight And Attendants Kept Bringing Him Whiskeys

Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:26 am

peterinlisbon wrote:
vrbarreto wrote:
ASFlyer wrote:
I want some money too. I'm gonna have to come up with a good story of my own.


Claim the pilot asked if you had ever seen a grown man naked or been to a Turkish prison.


They will just say that you asked for it because you said you wanted to go into the cockpit.

accusations of sexual assault are hilarious. Maybe your spouse/signifiant other/friend/family gets to experience sexual assault in the future and then you might change your attitudes.
 
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Re: Woman Says Man Groped Her On United Flight And Attendants Kept Bringing Him Whiskeys

Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:35 am

b747400erf wrote:
peterinlisbon wrote:
vrbarreto wrote:

Claim the pilot asked if you had ever seen a grown man naked or been to a Turkish prison.


They will just say that you asked for it because you said you wanted to go into the cockpit.

accusations of sexual assault are hilarious. Maybe your spouse/signifiant other/friend/family gets to experience sexual assault in the future and then you might change your attitudes.


Stop being a snowflake
 
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Re: Woman Says Man Groped Her On United Flight And Attendants Kept Bringing Him Whiskeys

Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:20 am

IPFreely wrote:
PlanesNTrains wrote:
The man was intoxicated enough that the attendant had to guide him by his hips, Rafieyan recalled, and two attendants warned her about him.

“[One attendant] made some comment to me like, ‘This is going to be an interesting flight,’ and looked at him,” Rafieyan, 47, said. “And then the other flight attendant came up and said, ‘Let me know if you need anything. I mean it’― and she looked at him.”

You got me. One said "Call me if...", the other showed "concern". :-)


Sorry but I'm not taking her word for that when she was quoted by the Huffington Post, attributing a quote to a flight attendant about an incident she suddenly remembered that happened weeks ago. Pretty low credibility.


Really have you ever been molested. Do you know what goes through your mind, including blacking it all out for years before it all comes back.
 
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Re: Woman Says Man Groped Her On United Flight And Attendants Kept Bringing Him Whiskeys

Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:22 am

vrbarreto wrote:
ASFlyer wrote:
I want some money too. I'm gonna have to come up with a good story of my own.


Claim the pilot asked if you had ever seen a grown man naked or been to a Turkish prison.


Sorry old lines out of the movie Airplane are very dated.
 
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Re: Woman Says Man Groped Her On United Flight And Attendants Kept Bringing Him Whiskeys

Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:35 am

vrbarreto wrote:
b747400erf wrote:
peterinlisbon wrote:

They will just say that you asked for it because you said you wanted to go into the cockpit.

accusations of sexual assault are hilarious. Maybe your spouse/signifiant other/friend/family gets to experience sexual assault in the future and then you might change your attitudes.


Stop being a snowflake


No he's right, only if someone from your family experiences such things will it matter to you or any one calling the Dr. and this woman a loon and all kinds of things in the other thread, put your family in that position before posting, unless ofcourse you dont care for them either.

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