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Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:23 am

Link/Source: http://atwonline.com/airports-routes/be ... 4202cb37bf

"According to airberlin, it will postpone the launch of 2X-weekly Berlin-San Francisco services from May 1 to May 29. A third weekly frequency will be added in June. Additionally, airberlin’s 4X-weekly Berlin-Los Angeles services will be moved from May 2 to May 16."

"AeroGround, a wholly owned subsidiary of Munich Airport, has been responsible for ground handling services at Berlin Tegel since March 26, the beginning of the summer schedule."

Is Aeroground short staffed, or just spread to thin between MUC and TXL.Why doesn't airberlin just do their do their own ground handling at their TXL hub, certainly it would be cheaper then contracting to a 3d party
 
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:28 am

The MCT at Tegel has been increased from 30 Minutes to 45 Minutes now. This airport is just maxed out.
 
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:39 am

If you can also tell AB where they can get the staff from you could bill them a ton of Money. Seems to be a mix of inadequate facilities, the second "star" at TXL should have been build 20 years ago the fact that staff with deep security checks is simply not available in required numbers.

TXL was never conceived as a Transfer terminal, it was a dead end for over 20 years until re-unfication in in the immediate past 25 + years a couple of make-shift tents have been added at TXL.

The mess will go on once the new terminal at SXF is opened and re-named as "BER", including the former SXF terminal. Both of them won't be able to handle the expected traffic by that time and those Clowns Close TXL for good, dis-regarding a Referendum.
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:14 am

PanHAM wrote:
If you can also tell AB where they can get the staff from you could bill them a ton of Money. Seems to be a mix of inadequate facilities, the second "star" at TXL should have been build 20 years ago the fact that staff with deep security checks is simply not available in required numbers.



I agree with you except on the points of the inadequate facilities. If you ask baggage handlers and ground personal working at TXL currently, especially at Terminal A there are no problems at all. The baggage gets put on the belt just "in front of the nose of the aircraft" and arrives in the arrival lounges after going up one level. We are talking 10 meters on the belt from the aircraft to the waiting passengers.

And after AB reducing so many routes, parking many aircraft (just look at the apron at SXF) and also giving away many of them to Niki and LH, Terminal C is really quiet these days, not much going on there, no overfilled baggage carroussels anymore at the moment.


The baggage handlers all say the same: we do what we can, we work our asses off, but there are just not enough people with the required security checks. And we have to blame AB for 100% of this mess. They changed the ground handling company and totally mismanaged this change. They should have had contracts with the old ground handler to do the work until the new ground handling company is ready to take over 100% of the AB flights.

BTW the new ground handling Company is owned by Munich Airport and is handling most flights at MUC, so These are no amateurs. It's just AB to blame.
 
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:36 am

It is a fault of the ground handling company. If you do not have enough manpower to full fill a contract, you should not sign it.
 
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:41 am

It can take several weeks for the required government security background checks if you hire any new staff. They should know this being pros from munich airport.
 
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:10 am

Indeed it has been a screw up on the side of AB, which has changed its handling company following strikes from the previous one. The rest of flights at TXL are running as usual.
What I wonder is if AB is truly the one to blame, or if LH is not the one behind this abrupt change of handling provider...
 
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:14 am

@ CARST - I usually have Hand carry only when I fly to Berlin, but I know the System at T A of course. The Headline is about AB, that's why I focused on ther Situation :

The authorities should actually accept the ID's and thus security checks from other German Airports.
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:26 am

r2rho wrote:
Indeed it has been a screw up on the side of AB, which has changed its handling company following strikes from the previous one. The rest of flights at TXL are running as usual.
What I wonder is if AB is truly the one to blame, or if LH is not the one behind this abrupt change of handling provider...


Well, as it does not affect Eurowings or LH, I do not think so.
 
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:55 am

I am mystified. Is the article from Air Transport World wrong? It says:

'Aeroground, a wholly owned subsidiary of Munich Airport, has been responsible for ground handling services at Berlin Tegel since March 26'.

Is this wrong? Is their more than one ground handling company operating at TXL? Or are ATW right when they say Aeroground is responsible for ground handling at the airport? Either way how can an airline be responsible for a failure to provide the required human resources to meet their ground handling supplier's contracted obligations?
 
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Re: Berlin Tegel ground handling issues prompt airberlin route delay

Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:38 am

There are no monopolies on ground handling in Germany, several companies compete and the Airline selects the ground handler of their choice. They can set-up their own handling as well. Whatever the set-up is, the customer blames the Airline since that is the Company he has a contract with.
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