Split-hub operations at both MXP and LIN in Milan have often been cited as a reason for Alitalia's demise. Would long-haul flights from Linate be possible?
A number of airports with shorter runways than LIN can support year-round long-haul nonstop flights; SXM, NCL and RAR come to mind. When KL can operate SXM-AMS nonstop with an A332, EK on NCL-DXB with a 77W, and NZ on RAR-LAX with a 77E, what stops an airline from operating, say, LIN-JFK or LIN-BKK with an A332 or 777?
Long-haul flights out of LIN: possible?
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Re: Long-haul flights out of LIN: possible?
No. There are restrictions on even Europe destinations which can be serviced from LIN.
Plus LIN has aircraft size limitation due wingspan sizing.
Plus LIN has aircraft size limitation due wingspan sizing.
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I don't think LIN has a runway long enough to accommodate long haul flights. If it were possible, then that would be a solution to AZ's problems.
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Cointrin330 wrote:I don't think LIN has a runway long enough to accommodate long haul flights. If it were possible, then that would be a solution to AZ's problems.
LIN's runway is long enough to accommodate longhaul departures to eastern N.America, and arrivals from anywhere.... but where then would those flights go?
There's barely room at its gates and apron for all the narrowbodies that fly there now.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
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The runway may be long enough, but the rest of the airport is not. It's really small and there's no room for expansion. Malpensa and Bergamo are the only airports in the Milan area that can accomodate long haul flights.
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Of course it is possible, technically. Just have an appropriate plane that has not excessive requirements for runway length, weight and width, with sufficient power and maybe reduced load. At least bare TATL range is possible, not necessarily without economic penalty. I do not know how much noise restrictions constrain. A fuel stop allows flights to anywhere, cf LCY.
Of course, that needs some modifications for gates, customs etc, not necessarily easy.
Of course, that capacity must be taken from short-haul flights, as there is no extra capacity for anything.
The idea to make LIN as Alitalia hub and throw other carriers away, however, is beyond political reality in Italy.
Of course, that needs some modifications for gates, customs etc, not necessarily easy.
Of course, that capacity must be taken from short-haul flights, as there is no extra capacity for anything.
The idea to make LIN as Alitalia hub and throw other carriers away, however, is beyond political reality in Italy.
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To think the airports situation in Milan is to blame for the demise of AZ is laughable.
IMO bad management and unfortunately also just bad luck are to blame for the demise of AZ.
Having said that, LIN is very regulated in terms of which destinations are served, both domestic and European flights. Long-haul flights will not only challenge facilities at LIN, but will also stumble upon heavy regulations.
IMO bad management and unfortunately also just bad luck are to blame for the demise of AZ.
Having said that, LIN is very regulated in terms of which destinations are served, both domestic and European flights. Long-haul flights will not only challenge facilities at LIN, but will also stumble upon heavy regulations.
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It is technically feasible to some extent. The reason for not having long-hauls at LIN is mostly political (as well as due to space constraints) and due to slots being allocated to some long-established destinations that have a certain minimum traffic [or in other words had a minimum required amount of passengers by the time the 'new' MXP opened]. Indeed most aircrafts would possibly be weight-restricted, but it would still be possible.
Widebodies have been operated into LIN for the longest of time, including A300s, DC-10s, TriStars and 767s, although on what were essentially short hauls. I do remember at one point in the early '90s CAAC serving Beijing from LIN on a 747SP for a short time...not sure if the lone weekly flight stopped somewhere en-route..
Widebodies have been operated into LIN for the longest of time, including A300s, DC-10s, TriStars and 767s, although on what were essentially short hauls. I do remember at one point in the early '90s CAAC serving Beijing from LIN on a 747SP for a short time...not sure if the lone weekly flight stopped somewhere en-route..
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Bombardier CS300 takes no restrictions out of LIN.
Does A319 operate out of LIN at full MTOW?
Does A319 operate out of LIN at full MTOW?
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